vicodin during a cycle?

  1. Unhappy vicodin during a cycle?


    ok guys,

    i broke some fingers and i am really tempted to take some vicodin cause the pain is off the chain! problem is, im on my 2 week of hdrol and furuza..

    should i hold off on the vicodin?

    Thanks a lot guys


  2. If it were me i would hold off on the pain pills...vicodin has about 325-500 mg of asprin depending on what dosage they are, not a good thing to add to a liver stressing steroid.
    but just my opinion...

  3. Quote Originally Posted by redrocket399 View Post
    ok guys,

    i broke some fingers and i am really tempted to take some vicodin cause the pain is off the chain! problem is, im on my 2 week of hdrol and furuza..

    should i hold off on the vicodin?

    Thanks a lot guys
    You should try some aspirin or ibuprofen first, although they do slow protein synthesis.
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  4. ok thanks guys! Ill prob have to try some ibuprofen then.. i need something! it hurts bad

  5. i would not take oral pain pills with an oral steroid. If the pain is that bad u probably cant lift well anyway - i'd strop ur cycle and start pct.
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  6. Cmon what kind of ? is this?
    HELL NO you dont take a painkiller and Vicodin !
    Do you want to end up in rehab?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by musclehustler View Post
    Cmon what kind of ? is this?
    HELL NO you dont take a painkiller and Vicodin !
    Do you want to end up in rehab?
    I agree with not taking vicodin or tylenol; if he needs to take ibuprofen or aspirin once or twice while on cycle he would be fine as they are not hepatotoxic. Like I said they do decrease protein synthesis and are hard on your stomach lining and kidneys which is why they need to be used sparingly on cycle or not.

  8. Well.
    With a broken finger how much are you really going to get out of the rest of the cycle?? Aside from legs finishing the cycle IMO would be a waste. I would stop cycle. Take some inhebit E and some pct assist. Use the vikes as needed. H-drol and Furuza have pretty short half lifes.
    That's what I would do.


    JP.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by jp17815 View Post
    Well.
    With a broken finger how much are you really going to get out of the rest of the cycle?? Aside from legs finishing the cycle IMO would be a waste. I would stop cycle. Take some inhebit E and some pct assist. Use the vikes as needed. H-drol and Furuza have pretty short half lifes.
    That's what I would do.


    JP.
    Holy crap, i'm an idiot; I didn't even see that about the broken fingers. Yeah with broken fingers I would stop the cycle. Hit me over the head with a fish .

  10. haha thanks guys. i appreciate the answers. I was going to stop a couple days ago, but didnt. but its pretty dang clear that i need to stop. so its over. Thanks again guys

  11. I mean truthfully, ON cycle you wouldnt feel as much pain because the PH would help you out, but once you were done with your cycle,,,,, trust me you will be in a world of hurt without that PH assistance,,, stop now! take time off get yourself together,, do low higher reps , less weight and use correct form! take care of your injury first!

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Mikey851 View Post
    I agree with not taking vicodin or tylenol; if he needs to take ibuprofen or aspirin once or twice while on cycle he would be fine as they are not hepatotoxic. Like I said they do decrease protein synthesis and are hard on your stomach lining and kidneys which is why they need to be used sparingly on cycle or not.
    It's the tylenol that's in vicodin that is really the hepatoxic factor. Also, all NSAID/s are taxing to the liver and the kidneys, some more than others. This includes ibuprofen, aspirin, and naproxen. Even then we all know the human body can be quite resiliant and people can get away with double slamming their liver, buuuuut it's that % where someone does real and permanent damage that in general we try and stay away from doing that. Just throwing out some fyi stuff.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat View Post
    It's the tylenol that's in vicodin that is really the hepatoxic factor. Also, all NSAID/s are taxing to the liver and the kidneys, some more than others. This includes ibuprofen, aspirin, and naproxen. Even then we all know the human body can be quite resiliant and people can get away with double slamming their liver, buuuuut it's that % where someone does real and permanent damage that in general we try and stay away from doing that. Just throwing out some fyi stuff.
    youre right but my point is that if the finger(s) are broken then he isnt going to have a good rest of the cycle. better to save the rest of it.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat View Post
    It's the tylenol that's in vicodin that is really the hepatoxic factor. Also, all NSAID/s are taxing to the liver and the kidneys, some more than others. This includes ibuprofen, aspirin, and naproxen. Even then we all know the human body can be quite resiliant and people can get away with double slamming their liver, buuuuut it's that % where someone does real and permanent damage that in general we try and stay away from doing that. Just throwing out some fyi stuff.
    Oh yeah, they are all taxing on the liver for sure; I was just pointing out that Vicodin and Tylenol (Due to containing acetaminophen) are worth avoiding even more so than Ibuprofen and Aspirin since acetaminophen is so hepatotoxic.
  

  
 

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