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Iam trying to build muscle. I heard that carbs are bad before bed because fat is the primary energy source used when asleep. But than again dont I need carbs to build muscles?
Carbs before bed will not make you fat.Iam trying to build muscle. I heard that carbs are bad before bed because fat is the primary energy source used when asleep. But than again dont I need carbs to build muscles?
+1Carbs before bed will not make you fat.
I do 2 scoops of now carbo gain (complex carbs) and one scoop of protein about an hour before bed. Im not getting fat.. And I like to feel somewhat full before bed..
Exactly. Without eating excessive calories, having some healthy fats like nuts, avocado, whole eggs or red meat with some veggies/fiber is a great pre-bed meal. These nutrients will absorb slowly, keeping you satiated throughout the night. The fat content will provide an excellent and preferable alternative to glucose during sleep. The body will burn it slowly and it will not result in extra circulating insulin which is a great way to store fat in your sleep.+1
Too many calories before bed (or any time for that matter) make you fat.
Carbs before bed will blunt GH.Exactly. Without eating excessive calories, having some healthy fats like nuts, avocado, whole eggs or red meat with some veggies/fiber is a great pre-bed meal. These nutrients will absorb slowly, keeping you satiated throughout the night. The fat content will provide an excellent and preferable alternative to glucose during sleep. The body will burn it slowly and it will not result in extra circulating insulin which is a great way to store fat in your sleep.
-Alex
This is an OK idea. However I advise against it as coconut oil is primarily MCT's which are burned rather quickly as energy; much like glucose albeit via different metabolic pathways. Stick to mono/poly unsaturated fats but feel free to include a little MCT's as the combination can promote some fat loss during sleep.I like my coconut oil before bed in the place of carbs.
I too advocate consuming something like whole eggs, salmon or red meat with some greens prior to bed.Any amount of food that creates an insulin spike will blunt gh.
most tend to steer clear of higher carbs meals pre bed. I usually go with some whole eggs or natural peanut butter/whey protein
But to what extent?Carbs before bed will blunt GH.
cottage cheese is ideal right before bed, it contains casien protein, few carbs.
:goodpost:Carbs before bed will blunt GH.
HGH is good for fat loss and staying leaner, but hasn't been shown to increase muscle mass, LEAN mass yes, but not muscle.I too advocate consuming something like whole eggs, salmon or red meat with some greens prior to bed.
keep in mind that even BCAA's/whey and lean protein will create an insulin spike. Almost any food will. Quick releases of glucose into the blood stream trigger a large pulse in insulin and thus a large increase in somatostatin which will suppress HGH. complex carbs do not create this large insulin pulse. Yes they will cause an insulin release, as will just a whey shake, however you tend to get the best of both worlds here. Also I don't necessarily recommend anyone slam down a meal IMMEDIATELY post training. Stretch, relax, catch your breath, let your CNS cool off and then eat. Digestion will be improved and the hormonal environment will be better suited to utilize the nutrients efficiently
We can debate timing here (post-workout meal timing), but we are generally on the same page and at the same understanding of nutrients...I too advocate consuming something like whole eggs, salmon or red meat with some greens prior to bed.
keep in mind that even BCAA's/whey and lean protein will create an insulin spike. Almost any food will. Quick releases of glucose into the blood stream trigger a large pulse in insulin and thus a large increase in somatostatin which will suppress HGH. complex carbs do not create this large insulin pulse. Yes they will cause an insulin release, as will just a whey shake, however you tend to get the best of both worlds here. Also I don't necessarily recommend anyone slam down a meal IMMEDIATELY post training. Stretch, relax, catch your breath, let your CNS cool off and then eat. Digestion will be improved and the hormonal environment will be better suited to utilize the nutrients efficiently
-Alex
QFEDo you really think your body really stops working when you go to bed? You need to think of your body in terms of a few days worth of nutrition at a time. I eat some kind of fruit and nuts before bed and have had success with suggesting a small balanced meal 2 hours or so before bed to clients. If you need more calories in a day, eat them whenever you can, including before bed. You're not going to get fat unless your totals for the day exceed what they should, not because you decided to eat a little oatmeal/fruit before bed.
exactly. For instance beef - despite its higher fat content, lean beef should/will actually cause a greater rise in BP insulin due to its higher leucine contentWe can debate timing here (post-workout meal timing), but we are generally on the same page and at the same understanding of nutrients...
I know about insulin, and what tends to spike it and how every BODY is different when it comes to the macro levels it takes to spike it.
You cannot just nibble all day and then eat a 2,000 calorie meal of fruit, meat, bread and nuts before bed and expect the same results as a balanced intake of nutrients, timed around physiologic/hormonal environments that best utilize the nutrients. I am not saying that you do this, just encouraging everyone to understand that it is best to optimize nutrient timing.Do you really think your body really stops working when you go to bed? You need to think of your body in terms of a few days worth of nutrition at a time. I eat some kind of fruit and nuts before bed and have had success with suggesting a small balanced meal 2 hours or so before bed to clients. If you need more calories in a day, eat them whenever you can, including before bed. You're not going to get fat unless your totals for the day exceed what they should, not because you decided to eat a little oatmeal/fruit before bed.
BP insulin, elaborate.exactly. For instance beef - despite its higher fat content, lean beef should/will actually cause a greater rise in BP insulin due to its higher leucine content
-Alex
I get where you and the original poster are going, I think you misread what the original fella posted though... he can elaborate on it, but if you reread his statement you'll see you both are on same pageYou cannot just nibble all day and then eat a 2,000 calorie meal of fruit, meat, bread and nuts before bed and expect the same results as a balanced intake of nutrients, timed around physiologic/hormonal environments that best utilize the nutrients. I am not saying that you do this, just encouraging everyone to understand that it is best to optimize nutrient timing.
-Alex
blood plasma concentration. It was just a minor micro-management detail.BP insulin, elaborate.
yea, most of the time BP is used to refer to blood pressure. I think it was rather late and I was being lazy - in the mood to abbreviate things lol.Ahhh, k, when I use bp, I think of blood pressure, so I was quite lost.
In Poliquins book, he advocates a caveman type diet, where you eat similar things to what a caveman ate. Nuts, berries, leafy greens, meat.
wow, that's different. 29% of your daily cals before bed. hey, whatever works! i've been doing light cottage cheese & a little avocado or nuts/seeds, sometimes just some casein powder in water. finish it off it some psyllium husks."I allow only 40 clean carbs max intake before bed.
I also ingest 60 grams of protein.
I eat a total of 400 calories before bed.
90 cal skim milk
200 cal protein shake
90 cal whole weat pretzel.
I lose weight doing this....while gaining muscle.
Total cals for day 1400....
not a bad pre-bed mealwow, that's different. 29% of your daily cals before bed. hey, whatever works! i've been doing light cottage cheese & a little avocado or nuts/seeds, sometimes just some casein powder in water. finish it off it some psyllium husks.
I seriously doubt this.I allow only 40 clean carbs max intake before bed.
I also ingest 60 grams of protein.
I eat a total of 400 calories before bed.
90 cal skim milk
200 cal protein shake
90 cal whole weat pretzel.
I lose weight doing this....while gaining muscle.
Total cals for day 1400....
I am on a cutting cycle....With a test booster...
It is working!!!
Depends...Re: Bedtime meal - how long before you go to sleep/bed is best to leave for consuming your nightime meal ie 1hour before bed/directly before etc?
Currently have mine about 30mins before going to bed, cottage cheese with salad/pepper added works well, sometimes with cashews and a small amount of peanut butter.
Thanks, if anything it would be a creatine supplement but I am not going to be taking creatine for a couple more weeks as I'm having a month off of it. so no gh supps here lolDepends...
If you take a gh type supp, you'll want your pre-bed meal 1.5-2hrs before bed, otherwise I usually eat about 30min-45min before bed.
Sounds like a good plan, what type of creatine?Thanks, if anything it would be a creatine supplement but I am not going to be taking creatine for a couple more weeks as I'm having a month off of it. so no gh supps here lol
I beg to differ.M
We all know that saturated fats, sugar, white bread and rice are no no's.
Hey whatever works for you is golden....I beg to differ.
Hey whatever works for you is golden....
What is your diet like?
How old are you?
What your BF% ?
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