LOL Red Meat Leads to Death
- 03-24-2009, 12:35 AM
LOL Red Meat Leads to Death
Want to live longer? Cut back on red meat - CNN.com
What they dont mention is the affects of a sensible diet with Lean red meat not the fatty hamburger variety.
- 03-24-2009, 08:33 AM
- 03-24-2009, 09:08 AM
red meat is easier to digest then most grains and veggies, nuts, seeds...
the only thing that digest easier is eggs, milk and fruits
red meat is natures best food for humans
btw those studies are completely useless junk... i dont even bother to read them anymore
03-24-2009, 09:17 AM
i'll be eating 2lbs a day soon...mmmmm beef. studies like this just make me wanna eat even more just to prove you can eat what you want and stay healthy and look good!
03-24-2009, 10:27 AM
I work at a BBQ part time and I go to town on the lean brisket.
03-24-2009, 01:13 PM
03-24-2009, 01:47 PM
What would my Saturday & Sunday meals come to? I eat it twice a week w/that sinful plain bagel and enjoy every last bite. I think they're referring to that Butter Soaked Sirloin at the Outback. That shady restaurant that refuses to publish their nutritional value on their foods. For that reason too probably. Or that gut rot steak that Guy from the food network advertises in those stupid TGI Fridays comercials. That overgrown garbage pail kid advertising any kind of food, would surely deter me on sight.
03-24-2009, 02:03 PM
THIS JUST IN:
Life leads to death
03-24-2009, 02:32 PM
I hate the girls who choose not to eat read meat because of a book they read by a woman that talks about the antibiotics given to the animals. They fail to realize that mostly all of the fruits, vegetables, and grains they eat have been sprayed by pesticides and such.
...Had the argument a million times with my gf who doesn't eat red meat
03-24-2009, 02:34 PM
03-24-2009, 02:41 PM
P.S. after reading this I got really hungry and went to the fridge for some of my mom's brisket. Gotta love coming home to good food
03-24-2009, 02:41 PM
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03-24-2009, 02:54 PM
I saw this on good morning America this morning. Not sure I buy the whole "red meat is dangerous" thing. Carl on Super Human Radio will be discussing this very issue tonight.
03-24-2009, 02:55 PM
03-24-2009, 02:57 PM
I hate to break it to you but I tend to see that as an urban legend. I have had several colonoscopies in the last 10 years and no reports of beef products attached to the lining of my colon...and it ain't for the lack of looking.
03-24-2009, 02:57 PM
03-24-2009, 03:11 PM
That whole food trapped in your colon for centuries I think is such a marketing ploy on men. Women have been targeted w/weight loss and beauty products since the dawn of time but it seems that they target men w/that because men are 'meat eaters' and what better way to push those detox products. I never see this to be a huge issue on those anatomy shows wherein they dissect the whole body and pull out the kitchen sink but alas, the colon track normal.
03-24-2009, 03:34 PM
Undigested meat eventually becomes post-putrefaction, and it does not resemble meat. It's also the hardest substance in the colon. Here's a link that describes the process: http://www.articlealley.com/article_78994_17.html It's from an ad. I'm sure there's better material out there if you're interested.
Unless your doctor said your colon was squeaky clean consider the possibility.
03-24-2009, 03:43 PM
03-24-2009, 03:46 PM
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03-24-2009, 03:52 PM
BTW, my sympathies for you and your wife's scare.
My colon was squeaky clean, less of course the benign polyp removal. I have a genetic predisposition (biological father) so I have been very proactive and consume high amounts of fiber on a regular basis.
Interesting read: http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtbeef.html
03-24-2009, 03:54 PM
03-24-2009, 03:54 PM
[QUOTE=colkurtz_spf;1878598]i I don't have sources to support my claim, QUOTE]
Heres the key.The end. Naturopaths are not doctors,surgeons or anyone that actually looks inside the human body. They are marketers who want to sell their product plain and simple.They are also hippies for the most part that thrive on conspiricy theory. Red meat does not stay in your colon for 50 years, that is utter B.S. Same goes for bubblegum and multivitamins.
03-24-2009, 03:56 PM
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03-24-2009, 04:08 PM
Here is is a better one http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/169/6/562
During 10 years of follow-up, there were 47 976 male deaths and 23 276 female deaths. In general, those in the highest quintile of red meat intake tended to consume a slightly lower amount of white meat but a higher amount of processed meat compared with those in the lowest quintile. Subjects who consumed more red meat tended to be married, more likely of non-Hispanic white ethnicity, more likely a current smoker, have a higher body mass index, and have a higher daily intake of energy, total fat, and saturated fat, and they tended to have lower education and physical activity levels and lower fruit, vegetable, fiber, and vitamin supplement intakes"
There seems to be alot more involved than just eating red meat.
03-24-2009, 04:09 PM
Post of mine from other red meat thread,
;"The latest United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) Nutrient Database shows that 19 cuts of beef meet government guidelines for "lean," including many of America's favorites like tenderloin, T-bone steak and 95 percent lean ground beef. And, 12 of these beef cuts have, on average, only one more gram -- or less -- of saturated fat than a skinless chicken breast (per 3-ounce serving).The 19 lean cuts, beginning with the leanest, include: eye round roast, top round steak, mock tender steak, bottom round roast, top sirloin steak, round tip roast, 95 percent lean ground beef, brisket (flat half), shank crosscuts, chuck shoulder roast, arm pot roast, shoulder steak, top loin (strip or New York) steak, flank steak, ribeye steak, rib steak, tri-tip roast, tenderloin steak and T-bone steak. These 19 beef cuts meet government guidelines for lean with less than 10 grams of total fat, 4.5 grams or less of saturated fat, and less than 95 milligrams of cholesterol per serving. Beyond lean beef's favorable fat profile, beef is -- and has always been -- a nutrient-rich powerhouse. Just one 3-ounce serving of beef is an excellent source of five essential nutrients: protein, zinc, vitamin B12, selenium and phosphorous. The same serving size is also a good source of four essential nutrients: niacin, vitamin B6, iron and riboflavin.In addition, beef's fat profile is generally misunderstood. Half the fatty acids in a 3-ounce serving of lean beef are monounsaturated fatty acids -- the same heart-healthy kind found in olive oil -- which research shows may have cholesterol-lowering abilities. And, one third of the saturated fat in beef is a unique fatty acid called stearic acid, which has been found to have a neutral or cholesterol-lowering effect."
"Research shows lean beef can play the same role as skinless chicken or fish in a cholesterol-lowering diet," said Dayle Hayes, M.S., R.D., member of the Council for Women's Nutrition Solutions (CWNS). "In addition, beef provides essential nutrients that can have a positive effect on some of today's major health issues like weight management and bone health."
Bear in mind that these are your standard cows.Not free range or organic,which are much leaner and definitely not wild.Buffalo or bison has less fat and calories than skinless light meat chicken.As do Deer and Elk.
03-24-2009, 04:26 PM
03-24-2009, 04:28 PM
03-24-2009, 04:36 PM
Did your wife happen to have colon polyps?
"Anyone can develop colon polyps, but you're at higher risk if you are 50 or older, are overweight or a smoker, eat a high-fat, low-fiber diet, or have a personal or family history of colon polyps or colon cancer.
Sometimes colon polyps can cause signs and symptoms such as rectal bleeding, a change in bowel habits and abdominal pain. But most small colon polyps don't cause problems, which is why experts generally recommend regular screening. Colon polyps that are found in the early stages usually can be removed safely and completely.Polyps that cannot be removed during colonoscopy will require abdominal surgery. When polyps are cancerous, the surgeon will usually remove the portion of the large intestine that is affected and then join the healthy ends of the intestine back together. In more severe cases, all or part of the colon may need to be removed. This is called a colectomy. You should have a colonoscopy one year after any removal of colon polyps, cancerous or noncancerous. After that your doctor should perform colonoscopies at regular intervals to check for recurrences."
Red meat contains a natural dye which can irritate the polyps...but in general the resons for getting them is on the top paragraph.
03-24-2009, 04:40 PM
If red meat is gonna speed my death, I have to say I will be there quicker than most!
03-24-2009, 04:50 PM
I hate the way cattle are raised in the states.In Canada we have slightly more strict laws..although we have nothing on the Argentinians though,which is how beef should be raised IMO. I am fortunate to have cattle ranchers as family members so I can get free-range organic beef for free as well. I know some people can only afford what they can afford and some are lucky to eat at all. You have to survive with whatcha got.
03-24-2009, 07:06 PM
It's a good thing to have to kill and clean your food. Too many people see a hamburger and not a cow. There's a feeling of gratification when you take responsibility. My first kill was a rabbit in a Belgian forest back in '78. I was only 20 and resented the lady who asked me if I was hungry and then handed me a 22 gage rifle. My shot hit it's hind quarters. I was only 20, nervous and hungry. I tried to give it the Karate chop to the back of the neck, but that didn't do it in. Finally I hand to grab its thumpers and whack its head across a tree. It was a messy and painful experience. I didn't know what I was doing. I walked back to the house with mutilated rabbit in hand. I was a very big man until I was told to clean it. I owe that lady a debt of gratitude.
03-24-2009, 09:16 PM
"The assumption that a lack of dietary fiber, particularly non-soluble fiber (also known in older parlance as "roughage") predisposes individuals to diverticular disease is supported within the medical literature."
Lack of dietary fibre in the diet is a big problem for people in so call "first" world nations. Fast fatty foods (high in saturated fats)make up the bulk of what many people eat. Veggies and friuts are almost non existent in peoples diets nowadays. People really need to strive to uphold a healthy balanced diet. I am also sorry about your wife , I thought it might be poylps because someone I worked with just went though that.
BTW that is an awesome story. Its always good to meet a fellow hunter.
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