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    Hey fellas usually I just grab a ball of frozen meat from the freezer toss it on the pan and chop it up then eat. I was wondering if it is much worse to just make a hamburger patty toss it on the grill and just add one slice of chesse and no bun then it. I mean it cant be adding anymore calories beside the cheese correct? The only reason I ask this is because I have been on a strict routine with what I eat but over the weekend I was at my sisters and she had a left over hamburger in the fridge and I was starving so i just took it out and eat it and it was actually real good. let me know fellas....the beef i always use is just regular ground meat from the butcher!

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    its fine to eat it by itself but why wouldn't u wanna eat it with a bun? u cutting out carbs? why would u be cutting out carbs? i always get the wheat hamburger buns, works out for a great meal.. protein in the meat, some good carbs and fiber in the bun, and some romaine lettuce

    and the cheese i get 2% milk, its got half the fat, tastes fine
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    Man, your fine. One slice of cheese in't nothing.

    Grilling on an open flame is also better than frying. Bad juices run out and escape is why. As, long as every meal isn't BBQ'd (the charred part can/is carcinogenic).

    All in all, your fine. Especially if you are not counting every single macro and are try to be in competition status. They are on a bit of a diff level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gstyle24 View Post
    its fine to eat it by itself but why wouldn't u wanna eat it with a bun? u cutting out carbs? why would u be cutting out carbs? i always get the wheat hamburger buns, works out for a great meal.. protein in the meat, some good carbs and fiber in the bun, and some romaine lettuce

    and the cheese i get 2% milk, its got half the fat, tastes fine
    True, I believe that 2% or 1% is better/more nutition than fat free milk.
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    Just eat the freaking burger man. Dont be a puzzyface and enjoy life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dynomite View Post
    Just eat the freaking burger man. Dont be a puzzyface and enjoy life.
    Lol thanks fellas. I am currently cutting and havent had a burger in a while. Probably gonna add 1-2 burgers a week into my diet just to switch it up getting tired of eating the same things every week. Also taking ap so the wheat buns is a good idea
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    If you have a Foreman GRill its even better. I usually just buy those griller packs with 32 1/4lb burguers and cook them in the grill. Their nutritional values are HORRIBLE but after I run them in the grill and dry them up with a paper towel most of the fat is out.

    I mean, with 2 of those burguers on a small G.F. Grill I fill up the entire "dump tray" with fat. And I mean, fill it up. So I'm pretty confident there's very little left in the burguer itself and I end up just eating some nice lean protein with, as stated above, wheat bread and some cheese.
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    I just go for lean burgers and george foreman them.
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    ya another thing, whats the fat % of the burger u get? 80/20? thats the most common one... but i never eat that stuff, i always get the 93/7, its a little bit more expensive, but it has way less fat, and it tastes fine.. its worth the extra couple bucks if u ask me... actually what i've been eating lately is bison meat.. thats good stuff but expensive as ****
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gstyle24 View Post
    ya another thing, whats the fat % of the burger u get? 80/20? thats the most common one... but i never eat that stuff, i always get the 93/7, its a little bit more expensive, but it has way less fat, and it tastes fine.. its worth the extra couple bucks if u ask me... actually what i've been eating lately is bison meat.. thats good stuff but expensive as ****
    Not sure what the fat % is...It is prob 80/20 if thats the most common because my mom buys it for me. But i am gonna tell her next time she goes to get the leaner beef.

    So all in all a burger or 2 a week is gonna fit into my diet just fine is basically what I am getting at?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flex13 View Post
    Lol thanks fellas. I am currently cutting and havent had a burger in a while. Probably gonna add 1-2 burgers a week into my diet just to switch it up getting tired of eating the same things every week. Also taking ap so the wheat buns is a good idea
    Or wrap the burger in a lettuce leaf instead of buns. Less carbs.
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    You should bulk cook your own burgers. I did almost 10lbs this summer and they lasted me ages. Then you can make your own healthy burger. I put it in a piece of sprouted grain bread, with a slice of FF Processed cheese ontop. Tastes amazing! Add to the beef some spices, pepper, and egg or two, + some breadcrumbs. Turns out like this:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    You should bulk cook your own burgers. I did almost 10lbs this summer and they lasted me ages. Then you can make your own healthy burger. I put it in a piece of sprouted grain bread, with a slice of FF Processed cheese ontop. Tastes amazing! Add to the beef some spices, pepper, and egg or two, + some breadcrumbs. Turns out like this:

    I would eat the sh8t out of that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    You should bulk cook your own burgers. I did almost 10lbs this summer and they lasted me ages. Then you can make your own healthy burger. I put it in a piece of sprouted grain bread, with a slice of FF Processed cheese ontop. Tastes amazing! Add to the beef some spices, pepper, and egg or two, + some breadcrumbs. Turns out like this:

    Damn that looks pretty good bro!!! Ya I do make my own burgers I dont think those pre made patties are that good for ya especially while on a diet. I was just worrying about ruining my diet but if u keep it healthy i think it can actually be a pretty nutritious meal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat View Post
    Or wrap the burger in a lettuce leaf instead of buns. Less carbs.
    Ya i would do that but wouldnt be as tasty
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    Quote Originally Posted by flex13 View Post
    Ya i would do that but wouldnt be as tasty
    I went no bun for a bit; added some extra cheese, condiments and toppings and all I could think about was the extra ketchup dripping off and how great it tasted, and never really focused on having no bun
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    I eat around 12 Burgers a week half beef, half turkey.

    When I eat them Post WO I eat them on Ezekial Hamburger buns.
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    i agree....i think 93/7 and 96/4 is the easiest way to get your protein intake for the day. Just slap a few patties together and grill them......very lean,,,,high protein, low fat and very easy to make and also very easy to fashion it like u like (spices, mustard, soy sauce, ff cheese.....blue cheese....etc....etc.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by msucurt View Post
    i agree....i think 93/7 and 96/4 is the easiest way to get your protein intake for the day. Just slap a few patties together and grill them......very lean,,,,high protein, low fat and very easy to make and also very easy to fashion it like u like (spices, mustard, soy sauce, ff cheese.....blue cheese....etc....etc.)
    How much does that cost you Americans? I can get 90/10 for $3/lb on sale this week. Usually about 3.50-4/lb. We don't sell beef that lean up here. I was at Walmart last weekend, but that particular one didn't have fresh food
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    i still like buying the 73/27, pan frying it as crumbles then rinsing with boiling water after draining the fat. you end up with leaner than 96/4, but at less than half the price. Can get the 73/27 for under $2 a lb, the 96/4 is usually around $4.50-$5/lb
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    Easy, how truly effective do you think that is? Ive heard of that method, but never really believed it turned from 73/27 to 96/4 (although I wish it did because i would save some $$$)

    On the other hand, if you are making burgers, that would be the only time u would opt for the 93/7 or 96/4 IMO. (btw, ive got a killer horseradish burger i stole from a weight watchers book....haha)

    thanks

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    i still like buying the 73/27, pan frying it as crumbles then rinsing with boiling water after draining the fat. you end up with leaner than 96/4, but at less than half the price. Can get the 73/27 for under $2 a lb, the 96/4 is usually around $4.50-$5/lb
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    depends on sales - normally 96/4 is around $5/Lb, But I found a grocery store recently that sells 97/3 for like $3.50/Lb I beleive it was!
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    Reducing Fat in Ground Beef

    A study in the Journal of the American Dietetic Association* has good news for beef eaters. Nutrition researchers found that a simple rinsing process reduced the fat content of cooked ground beef crumbles by as much as 50 percent. And blotting can be used to reduce the fat content of cooked burgers, meatballs and meatloaf.

    So whether buying ground beef for taste, convenience or price, consumers can also enjoy the health benefits of lower-fat ground beef with a few easy steps.

    Reducing Fat in Cooked Ground Beef by Rinsing and Draining:
    By following these easy steps, it’s simple to cut the fat in favorite recipes that call for cooked ground beef crumbles, such as chili, Sloppy Joes, spaghetti with meat sauce and tacos.

    This technique allows beef eaters to take advantage of lower-priced, higher-fat ground beef and still enjoy the benefits of a leaner product.

    1. Brown ground beef in skillet over medium heat 8 to 10 minutes or until no longer pink. Stir occasionally to break beef into large pieces (about 1/4-inch).

    2. Meanwhile, microwave 4 cups water in a 1-quart glass measuring cup or microwaveable bowl on HIGH 5 to 6 minutes or until very hot, but not boiling (150F to 160F).

    3. Drain fat from skillet.

    4. Using a slotted spoon, remove beef crumbles to large plate or other container lined with three layers of white, non-recycled paper towels. Let sit 1 minute; blot top of beef with more paper towels.

    5. Place beef in a line mesh strainer or colander and set it on a 1/2-quart (or larger) sturdy bowl. Pour hot water over beef to rinse fat. Drain 5 minutes.

    6. Proceed as recipe directs.

    If the recipe calls for browning ground beef with onion or garlic, these items can be added during the cooking process. Rinsing the beef after cooking results in minimal flavor loss. Additional seasonings and herbs may be added after rinsing as desired.

    * Journal of the American Dietetic Association, Vol. 92, No. 11, November 1992
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    Quote Originally Posted by msucurt View Post
    Easy, how truly effective do you think that is? Ive heard of that method, but never really believed it turned from 73/27 to 96/4 (although I wish it did because i would save some $$$)

    On the other hand, if you are making burgers, that would be the only time u would opt for the 93/7 or 96/4 IMO. (btw, ive got a killer horseradish burger i stole from a weight watchers book....haha)

    thanks
    Do you mean how much fat is removed, if so there`s a great article done by Iowa University that shows how much fat is removed. Read it http://www.foodsafety.wisc.edu/asset...und%20Beef.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangepeel View Post
    depends on sales - normally 96/4 is around $5/Lb, But I found a grocery store recently that sells 97/3 for like $3.50/Lb I beleive it was!
    McDonalds sells a 1/4 pound for I think 2 dollars or so. It also comes already cooked with the bun and some other goodies!
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    so yeah, the 10% hits down to effectively 94/6, and the 30% to 92/8.
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    speak of the devil... went over to walmart to pick up milk + cottage cheese, and they had a bunch of short dated 96/4 ground beef marked down to 3.09/lb from 4.64, so I bought 9lbs, making crumbles with 3, freezing the rest for next week
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquid13 View Post
    McDonalds sells a 1/4 pound for I think 2 dollars or so. It also comes already cooked with the bun and some other goodies!
    I was joking btw......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquid13 View Post
    McDonalds sells a 1/4 pound for I think 2 dollars or so. It also comes already cooked with the bun and some other goodies!
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    thanks. Ill try that next time. Ill probably just buy standard 85/15 or even 70/30 and see what happens.

    So, if one were to do this with the following, what is the final % if one were to follow the procedure on

    90/10
    85/15
    70/30

    Or as least a close approx.

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by msucurt View Post
    thanks. Ill try that next time. Ill probably just buy standard 85/15 or even 70/30 and see what happens.

    So, if one were to do this with the following, what is the final % if one were to follow the procedure on

    90/10
    85/15
    70/30

    Or as least a close approx.

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    roughly under half the fat left, so no worse than
    90/10 - > 95/5
    85/15 - > 93/7
    70/30 - > 85/15

    and possibly even less fat than those...
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    I got the good old 80/20 for 1.89 a pound by me.....great for a keto diet lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    i still like buying the 73/27, pan frying it as crumbles then rinsing with boiling water after draining the fat. you end up with leaner than 96/4, but at less than half the price. Can get the 73/27 for under $2 a lb, the 96/4 is usually around $4.50-$5/lb
    That only works if you want your beef well done. I prefer mine medium-rare, so the 93% lean is the only option for me
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    true, but when i am doing the volume food for day to day, the ability to make up 5lbs of beef at once and store it in the fridge a week is worth more to me than enjoying it
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    i regularly eat 93/7 ground beef

    burgers and crumbled with pasta
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    Quote Originally Posted by flex13 View Post
    Hey fellas usually I just grab a ball of frozen meat from the freezer toss it on the pan and chop it up then eat. I was wondering if it is much worse to just make a hamburger patty toss it on the grill and just add one slice of chesse and no bun then it. I mean it cant be adding anymore calories beside the cheese correct? The only reason I ask this is because I have been on a strict routine with what I eat but over the weekend I was at my sisters and she had a left over hamburger in the fridge and I was starving so i just took it out and eat it and it was actually real good. let me know fellas....the beef i always use is just regular ground meat from the butcher!
    You guys gotta try Bubba Burgers. They are sold in the frozen section of most supermarkets. I know I know..a frozen burger? Well..holy ****...one of the juiciest burgers I have ever had. Probably not the healthiest but rank very high in the flavor department.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    roughly under half the fat left, so no worse than
    90/10 - > 95/5
    85/15 - > 93/7
    70/30 - > 85/15

    and possibly even less fat than those...
    Some info from one of my resources regarding lean meats:
    The USDA figures one of the leanest beef cuts to be double bone sirloin steak.
    A 12 oz sirloin, dry broiled and trimmed, yields 6.6 oz of meat, including 1.8 oz of fat. When you exclude the 107 grams of water content (57%) which has 0 calories, the lean meat left is 61 grams. The fat left is 19 grams including 9 grams of saturated fat. Lean meat (protein) is 4 calories per gram, fat is 9 calories per gram..so this works out as:

    Fat - 19 grams x 9 calories=171 calories=41%
    Protein - 61 grams x 4 calories=244 calories=59%
    Total - 415 calories

    So...one of the best lean cuts is still 41 % fat. 19.5 % saturated fat. That's way above the government health reccommendations of 30 % total fat, 10% saturated fat. All other cuts of beef are even fattier. Pork is worse.

    Note: The book is a few years old so those government reccomendations may have changed. Hope this tidbit provides some insight and something to ponder on.
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