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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwork25 View Post

    What does his size, bench, weight, age, or anything else about him personally matter in regards to his questions or comments?
    I smelled a scrawny lil troll and decided to call him out after reading through the thread. It happens. Why? U mad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    -Don't eat veges in aktins
    never read atkins

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    -Eating in excess is not needed for muscle growth
    I have followed logs where one would actually gain lbm on a PSMF type diet so I suppose its possible but it will be no where near as effective as a caloric surplus diet

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    -Studies that compare different calorie intakes should be used to compare meat and whey and total muscle growth (read my post above)
    thats just silly

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    -Protein is the sole determinant of muscle mass gain and not overall calorie intake
    fat and carbs dont contribute?

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    -We are meatheads and juicers
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwork25 View Post
    What does his size, bench, weight, age, or anything else about him personally matter in regards to his questions or comments?
    Thank you hardwork for being a normal, logical person - it's a rare state here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MusclesFrogs View Post

    Thank you hardwork for being a normal, logical person - it's a rare state here.
    Because after being a 4 day forum member you can judge the state of things here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeg313 View Post
    Because after being a 4 day forum member you can judge the state of things here.
    After 3 decades on the planet, I can judge the state of people.
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    This has been an entertaining thread to say the least.. why cant we get along???? have your protein powder and your meals together..
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    Quote Originally Posted by MusclesFrogs View Post

    After 3 decades on the planet, I can judge the state of people.
    Then don't get so butt hurt when you get judged for your actions. Fill this out and get back to me.

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    Is that a new thread? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeg313 View Post

    Then don't get so butt hurt when you get judged for your actions. Fill this out and get back to me.

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    Don't worry about the science. Drink 5 protein shakes a day for a week and you will get your answer.
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    I gave up on chicken breast or steak.

    I'm mean sure that's quality protein right there, but it just doesn't fit my lifestyle.

    Eggs, tuna, milk, cheese, and powder; all staples in my diet.

    You see these videos of pro bodybuilders eating pounds of meat; I really don't think it's necessary to eat like that, regardless of how big you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1187 View Post
    I gave up on chicken breast or steak.

    I'm mean sure that's quality protein right there, but it just doesn't fit my lifestyle.

    Eggs, tuna, milk, cheese, and powder; all staples in my diet.

    You see these videos of pro bodybuilders eating pounds of meat; I really don't think it's necessary to eat like that, regardless of how big you are.
    Then why do they do it? Probably because it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machorox123 View Post
    Then why do they do it? Probably because it works.
    Of course it works, simply saying it's not the only way to ingest protein.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeg313 View Post
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    Oh Mike, you don't have to explain to me why you have so much paperwork handy regarding your butt being hurt, but that's between you and your boyfriend. You should keep your personal life off these threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MusclesFrogs View Post
    Oh Mike, you don't have to explain to me why you have so much paperwork handy regarding your butt being hurt, but that's between you and your boyfriend. You should keep your personal life off these threads.
    Did it take you three days to come up with that gem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post
    Did it take you three days to come up with that gem?
    No, unlike you I have other interests and don't follow bodybuilding forums religiously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MusclesFrogs View Post
    Oh Mike, you don't have to explain to me why you have so much paperwork handy regarding your butt being hurt, but that's between you and your boyfriend. You should keep your personal life off these threads.
    That's the best you could come up with? You're pathetic ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MusclesFrogs View Post
    No, unlike you I have other interests and don't follow bodybuilding forums religiously.
    And by other interests I’m going to go out on a limb and say porn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post
    And by other interests I’m going to go out on a limb and say porn.
    Possibly porn. Something wrong with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeg313 View Post
    That's the best you could come up with? You're pathetic ...
    Mike, can't hear you - your boyfriend is filling your mouth too full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MusclesFrogs View Post
    Mike, can't hear you - your boyfriend is filling your mouth too full.
    just another guess but Im going to say gay porn is your nitche...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MusclesFrogs View Post

    Sorry, you're misinformed. When the point of the study is to test whether caloric intake as well as other macronutrients found in meats actually helps contribute to muscle growth/size vs WPI and its low caloric value, then there is no need for this. That's like saying I want to test a weight loss study testing high calorie diet vs a low calorie diet...but the calories need to be the same. Flawed logic.
    I know I am late to the game on this thread but I had to post after this idiocy.

    If you know anything about research design you would see instantly why this is flawed. You have TWO independent variables. Meaning you have a type 2 error right off the bat without even testing... Which is exactly why, among other things you won't find research like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDog479 View Post

    I know I am late to the game on this thread but I had to post after this idiocy.

    If you know anything about research design you would see instantly why this is flawed. You have TWO independent variables. Meaning you have a type 2 error right off the bat without even testing... Which is exactly why, among other things you won't find research like this.
    This musclefrog guy is a moron , I doubt it will sink in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeg313 View Post

    This musclefrog guy is a moron , I doubt it will sink in.
    I swear I thought he'd be done with this shiz after his thread on this subject didn't go his way...
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    There is no substitute for meat when it comes to protein. Meat provides you with essential nutrients that your body needs. Protein shakes are supplemental not to be replaced with real food but to assist you in your diet and nutritional needs. Make sure you calculate your macros and know your daily caloric needs and if you are looking to boost your protein shakes with calories add peanut butter and oats when necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGauge1 View Post
    There is no substitute for meat when it comes to protein. Meat provides you with essential nutrients that your body needs. Protein shakes are supplemental not to be replaced with real food but to assist you in your diet and nutritional needs. Make sure you calculate your macros and know your daily caloric needs and if you are looking to boost your protein shakes with calories add peanut butter and oats when necessary.

    Really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGauge1 View Post
    There is no substitute for meat when it comes to protein. Meat provides you with essential nutrients that your body needs. Protein shakes are supplemental not to be replaced with real food but to assist you in your diet and nutritional needs. Make sure you calculate your macros and know your daily caloric needs and if you are looking to boost your protein shakes with calories add peanut butter and oats when necessary.
    But where's the study?
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