Protein powder vs Meat
- 06-05-2013, 11:55 PM
- 06-06-2013, 12:14 AM
But my question is, can anyone link me to any "scientific data" that shows eating meat increases muscle growth more/faster than the equivalent amount of protein taken via WPI.
Then you went on about how atkins doesn't promote the use of vegetables and then further onto the point that, for some reason, you seem to assume that a calorie excess is not needed for muscle growth
- 06-06-2013, 12:19 AM
-Eating in excess is not needed for muscle growth
-Studies that compare different calorie intakes should be used to compare meat and whey and total muscle growth (read my post above)
-Protein is the sole determinant of muscle mass gain and not overall calorie intake
-We are meatheads and juicers
Oh and i'm waiting for a scientific study that Oranges are indeed orange and not blue.
06-06-2013, 01:00 AM
06-06-2013, 01:27 AM
06-06-2013, 02:27 AM
Your target demo of me is completely wrong, sorry you like thinking about about skinny young boys as your default - might want to look into that. In response to your opening statement, that's what this whole conversation has been about - there are no studies comparing the two. So, what do we take away from this? Rage and muscle is worthless and has no value on the Internet, so you trying to play that card is laughable. Two, write intelligently, don't embarrass yourself.
06-06-2013, 03:08 AM
FWIW, I do think it is a good thing you are challenging people by asking where they obtained that information, but some of the things you posted earlier do not make sense from a research point of view. I get where you are coming from now but that wasn't so clear earlier, it was made to seem as though simply getting enough protein was more important than calories however I don't think this point was your intention.
I will say that, although I doubt this is how you approach things, that it is important to mix up protein sources. Yes, animal derived proteins are complete in that they contain all aminos but they contain varying amounts with products being more dominant in certain aminos and others being more dominant in others.
06-06-2013, 03:04 PM
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06-06-2013, 11:49 PM
06-07-2013, 12:32 AM
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates
06-07-2013, 01:42 AM
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06-07-2013, 04:28 PM
06-07-2013, 05:27 PM
This has been an entertaining thread to say the least.. why cant we get along???? have your protein powder and your meals together..
06-07-2013, 06:27 PM
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06-07-2013, 07:39 PM
06-07-2013, 07:41 PM
06-08-2013, 02:25 PM
06-08-2013, 11:35 PM
Don't worry about the science. Drink 5 protein shakes a day for a week and you will get your answer.
06-09-2013, 12:54 PM
I gave up on chicken breast or steak.
I'm mean sure that's quality protein right there, but it just doesn't fit my lifestyle.
Eggs, tuna, milk, cheese, and powder; all staples in my diet.
You see these videos of pro bodybuilders eating pounds of meat; I really don't think it's necessary to eat like that, regardless of how big you are.
06-09-2013, 02:40 PM
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06-10-2013, 07:34 PM
06-10-2013, 07:57 PM
06-10-2013, 11:00 PM
If you know anything about research design you would see instantly why this is flawed. You have TWO independent variables. Meaning you have a type 2 error right off the bat without even testing... Which is exactly why, among other things you won't find research like this.
06-11-2013, 02:23 AM
06-11-2013, 02:42 AM
06-11-2013, 10:13 PM
There is no substitute for meat when it comes to protein. Meat provides you with essential nutrients that your body needs. Protein shakes are supplemental not to be replaced with real food but to assist you in your diet and nutritional needs. Make sure you calculate your macros and know your daily caloric needs and if you are looking to boost your protein shakes with calories add peanut butter and oats when necessary.
06-11-2013, 11:44 PM
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