Protein powder vs Meat
- 06-05-2013, 03:52 PM
- 06-05-2013, 03:53 PM
06-05-2013, 03:54 PM
06-05-2013, 03:57 PM
They gave plenty of legitimate answers. More calories = more growth.
If you give one group whole foods (meat + eggs) and another only WPI the caloric total will not be the same.
If the caloric total is not the same then it is more likely the growth from the meat group (or lack thereof with the WPI group) comes from the total calorie difference; not the protein source.
06-05-2013, 04:06 PM
06-05-2013, 04:08 PM
Have you heard of the Velocity diet? read up on it people go on a 5 MULTI protine shake a day diet supplemented in with all the healthy nutrients that your body needs with 1 cheat meal a week and lose fat but they don’t gain muscle! Thus proving that a whey only consumption of protein is not beneficial for building muscle and here is a documented log for proof.
Hit me up with any questions any time.
06-05-2013, 04:30 PM
Crew, look, stop threatening that you're going to leave the conversation - it doesn't matter to me whether you're here or not - that doesn't lend any validity to the points you're trying to make, it just means you don't have the patience or resources to back up your claims. With regards to what you're saying about velocity is completely unfounded. Since Im a newb here it won't let me link articles in posts, but just google "velocity diet muscle gain" and you'll see many articles saying exactly the opposite of what you proposed here. Yeah, people won't gain muscle if they do the velocity diet...and don't work out. You need to lift to gain, that's not the question. The people who lifted on the velocity diet, gained muscle. What you're proposing is nonsense - you're saying if you lift weights everyday and drink a ton of protein shakes, but no fruits veggies or carbs you won't gain muscle - eye roll. Please. You're scraping here. Guys here's the thing, I don't know why everyone is getting DEFENSIVE. Why would it have an emotional effect on you? All I want to know is if there has been a scientific study. It's a yes or no answer. I don't want your opinions or conjecture, I just want a link pointing to a legitimate scientific study proving one way or the other if WPI is more or less effective than meats/eggs alone in building muscle mass. That is all. Black and white. Either you have a link or you don't. If you don't, then in the scientific community's eyes, there's no real evidence. If you do, wonderful.
06-05-2013, 04:33 PM
06-05-2013, 04:50 PM
06-05-2013, 04:52 PM
06-05-2013, 04:54 PM
06-05-2013, 05:33 PM
Also, meat contains a vast amount of fats and proteins; not mere protein alone. Therefore comparing protein shakes with meat would have to be balanced by adding something like EVOO into the mix to account for the saturated fats in meat.
This is not even accounting for the amino acid profile of have WPI continually as your only protein source. You need a diverse range of aminos...
If you have one group consuming more calories than the other (which will happen when ONLY comparing protein content of meat and WPI without accounting for total caloric intake) then the study is flawed. More calories = more potential for growth..
06-05-2013, 05:35 PM
06-05-2013, 05:36 PM
06-05-2013, 07:10 PM
06-05-2013, 07:11 PM
06-05-2013, 07:14 PM
06-05-2013, 07:21 PM
Eating in excess to gain muscle (think: Bodybuilder) is a given; as you appear to opposing it or doubting it, you find a study that shows that eating in excess is not needed (which it is) to gain muscle mass (not merely developing muscle, but accumulating a large volume of muscle.
You're the one challenging the 'status quo' here, you provide a study that contradicts that status quo .
06-05-2013, 07:23 PM
Read a text book about basic physiology then come back and see if that changes your mind.
While you're at it, find me a study that validates that an Orange is indeed Orange and not blue.
06-05-2013, 07:26 PM
06-05-2013, 07:50 PM
06-05-2013, 07:55 PM
Guy, it's very simple - there's a study proving it, or there's not. And by all this back and forth, it's quickly becoming apparent that there is not a study. (that we know of) Therefore - no one knows the answer to this question. Regardless of how vehement they are.
06-05-2013, 08:02 PM
I'm not going to do research for you. If you are merely going to try undermine everything everyone has said, then we are not going to go out of our way for you.
I guess you'll never know which is better.
06-05-2013, 08:09 PM
06-05-2013, 08:09 PM
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