How counterproductive is it to eat french fries, a hamburger, or pizza?
- 10-19-2008, 09:42 AM
- 10-19-2008, 09:51 AM
They help keep you on your diet if you only treat yourself to them once or twice a month. Cheat meals, unsung heroes."I am legally blind and if I can Squat,deadlift and over all get myself to the gym then anyone can get their a$$ in gear and get strong!!" - malleus25
- 10-19-2008, 12:39 PM
10-22-2008, 05:54 AM
I cheat once a week too. Though I don't pay too much attention to the overall cals. The way I look at it, so long as you really eat clean the rest of the week, that one cheat day doesn't REALLY do any damage.
10-28-2008, 02:47 PM
it's a necessary evil IMO. sometimes food is beyond just what is on the nutrition facts. psychological response to food is powerful, just like the mental aspect of lifting weights, sports, etc.
so, despite the fact that it has no place in your diet as far as numbers are concerned, realize that it gives you a chance to freshen yourself up mentally. you may be "indulged" for days after that cheat day, helping you toward your goals.
think of it like overtraining in the gym, taking several days off works better than just training harder.
10-28-2008, 02:49 PM
a cheat meal once in awhile is good for you. personally, fries i'd avoid at all cost for two reasons : high in sodium, breaks down into sugar quicker than sin - not to include what it may be cooked in (transfat). pizza is also high in sodium, but heck, if its only once a week it won't kill you.
as far as burgers - make your own and eat them every day!
11-04-2008, 03:03 PM
i was recently at JFK airport.. NY now requires calories to be listed on all menu items.. as im placing my order for a nice juicy CheeburgerCheeburger which came to about 600 calories, I considered getting fries.... ... the fries had about 1200 calories to a single serving.
At least a burger has protein (good), saturated fat (you need some everyday), tomato, onions, etc
The fries are just fat and carbs... the worst two combinations when in high numbers. youll hike up your insulin and then throw extra fat at your cells... hello fat uptake
11-04-2008, 03:25 PM
11-04-2008, 03:29 PM
- 5'10" 220 lbs.
- Join Date
- Jan 2006
I love pizza and eat it 2-3x/wk (even while cutting). The key is to not eat so much that you have to skip a meal afterwords.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
11-04-2008, 04:12 PM
I have cheat meals even cheat days in place because i cut like 12-16 weeks at a time as long as you keep track of your calories and macros are on track for the week you should be ok
11-05-2008, 07:45 PM
Cheat meals are only really necessary on a cut. The purpose is to raise lepton levels if I remember right. This will act close to the same as increasing your metabolism. Fat doesn't increase do though, you need extra calories and carbs on a cheat day to make it effective. So to answer your question yes eliminate those foods.
11-05-2008, 10:31 PM
Is it better to skip a meal or eat fast food if that's the only choice?
11-05-2008, 10:54 PM
11-05-2008, 11:29 PM
French fries should never be acceptable. I am extremely glad I finally completely got them out of my diet.
burgers can be alright if prepared as a healthy burger and not a McDonald's double cheeseburger ( if you can call that a burger)
pizza is ok to cheat with some. stick to thin crust and if possible do not eat the edge. Also try to stick to a limit on number of slices you consume. People over indulge on pizza more than any other food in my opinion. One piece of a healthy thin crust has ~200 calories. One piece of a deep dish can hit huge numbers.
I usually end up eating some thin crust pizza prolly once a week cause the best bar in my town is a pizza joint....
Anyhow please stay around from the fried trans fat starch people call french fries. Nothing could make those healthy.
11-06-2008, 01:25 AM
11-06-2008, 01:40 AM
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11-06-2008, 09:01 AM
Best bet is to get a grilled chicken sandwich, or even a burger... toss the bun (a ton of sugar and HFCS in their bread).
At least then you are getting protein and fat without the simple carbs. Fat is extremely beneficial to your health (in healthy amounts) so once in a while, getting extra fat wont kill you.
My personal belief is that when you are cheating, avoid simple sugars at all cost. By keeping your insulin levels down, you will slow the absorption of the calories and their transition into glucose. This will allow you to burn more of the food as energy before it is stored. Once you add simple carbs into the equation, youve supercharged the process of fat storage.
11-12-2008, 06:58 AM
when on a very strict low cal diet a cheat meal is very productive, it will give you a boost in your metabolism and give you some satisfaction. I always time it up with a long cardio day.
11-12-2008, 02:34 PM
In addition to my previous post I'd like to add that McDonald's french fries are quite possibilly the wqorst thing you can eat. High in fat especially trans fat obviously not whole grain and probably contain HFCS.
11-12-2008, 04:58 PM
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