Everyone's Off Season Arsenal?

[grexx]

What are everybody's off season bulking shopping list?

I am currently loving:

Kwick Karb
L-Glutamine
VPX NO Shotgun
RPM
Dialene 4
PSLin
AP
Super Cissus
Powerfull
Generic Labz BCAA-EE


Working absolute wonders for lean muscle gains.....

What are you doing?

 

[nelix]

My (delayed due to CC limit and moving house costs) list contains:
Activate Xtreme
Lean Xtreme
IP6
Super EPA

The primordial performance range, and some Giant Nutrition range stuff, which nutra does not stock so I guess I should not mention.

 

[Rodja]

What are everybody's off season bulking shopping list?

I am currently loving:

Kwick Karb
L-Glutamine
VPX NO Shotgun
RPM
Dialene 4
PSLin
AP
Super Cissus
Powerfull
Generic Labz BCAA-EE


Working absolute wonders for lean muscle gains.....

What are you doing?

Why the Dialene 4 during bulking.

 

[John Smeton]

My (delayed due to CC limit and moving house costs) list contains:
Activate Xtreme
Lean Xtreme
IP6
Super EPA

The primordial performance range, and some Giant Nutrition range stuff, which nutra does not stock so I guess I should not mention.

Actually there is a product request thread . I am too interested in Giant nutrition's specially their protein powder

 

[grexx]

I use the Dialene for added energy, when I don't use RPM, and to keep my metabolism going. Also, you get a free bottle of Sesamin with it:clap2:

 

[CHAPS]

NO Shotgun has an impressive ingredient list but with the esterfied arginine, glutamine and creatine doesn't it taste like total ass? What flavour is it anyway?

 

[nosnmiveins]

NO-shotgun has an awwwwful taste, but it works so its worth it, i heard they were coming out with a new flavor...but thats it

 

[John Smeton]

I use the Dialene for added energy:

Dialene agrees with me the most, than other stims, and Ive tryed a lot.


How you do in your NPC competetion grexx?

 

[rpen22]

Actually there is a product request thread . I am too interested in Giant nutrition's specially their protein powder

I don't see NP carrying Giant, since it's mainly Patrick's direct online sales company. I don't think any retailers carry Giant.

 

[nelix]

It's just that Giant don't do international shipping. Which sucks. They have an awesome range of high quality products.

 

[sublimejeh]

I'll probably be rotating a few stack ideas

RPM with Drive

FX, HDX2, Retain2

Poseidon

 

[PumpingIron]

grexx, most guys around here are ALWAYS off season

 

[nelix]

grexx, most guys around here are ALWAYS off season

Good point. lol

 

[grexx]

Haha...:donut: :burger:

Seriously, the best move I ever made was just training and eating for the first 4 or so years between 19 and 22. At 20, I was up to 296. ALthough there was fat to lose, when I did drop it, all that newly acquired muscle was there. I had an abdominal hernia these past couple of months so it is hard to say when my next show will be. I'm figuring early Spring of next year as I want to do it right.

Keep the posts coming as it is always interesting to see everyone's plans.

Also, maybe we can make a Q and A section if NP is ok with it for training and diet as a sub forum in the Np section......

 

[pistonpump]

296lbs at 20y/o!!!!!!!!!! damn bro. was that natural if you dont mind me asking?

 

[PumpingIron]

Haha...:donut: :burger:

Seriously, the best move I ever made was just training and eating for the first 4 or so years between 19 and 22. At 20, I was up to 296. ALthough there was fat to lose, when I did drop it, all that newly acquired muscle was there. I had an abdominal hernia these past couple of months so it is hard to say when my next show will be. I'm figuring early Spring of next year as I want to do it right.

Keep the posts coming as it is always interesting to see everyone's plans.

Also, maybe we can make a Q and A section if NP is ok with it for training and diet as a sub forum in the Np section......

You and me both...let me know where you are planning on competing...I think we're from the same general area...

 

[grexx]

At that time when I hit 296, I don't remember but I think I used the original 1-T ether gels and a 4 AD spray. Maybe boldione too? Not sure, but everything was legal. Genetically, I have always built muscle quite easily. Here is a pic of me at barely 18 winning the NJ States and using nothing but whey and glutamine

 

[pistonpump]

damn impressive. when did you start bodybuilding in general? How much weight do you plan on adding this offseason?
I also see you dont use any type of creatine.....care to explain why or why not?

 

[grexx]

I started training at 14. When I say training, I mean real training and diet. I remember bringing my chicken and broccoli to physics class in high school, lol. I use CEE. I didn't list everything I use, just a general outline. Add Cissus-Drol to that list for the matter. I just love training. I am not putting a number on where I want to go this off season. Just as much muscle with as little fat as possible. Time to start battling it out with the other young guns, lol.

 

[pistonpump]

what is the max acceptable amount of bodyfat% you will go to on a offseason bulk?

 

[nycste]

jeezee someone like you makes me wish i didnt do a sport in college and just hit gym fulltime that first 20lbs frosh year would of been 20lbs per year hehe and would of scored all the girls intead of half them /flex

 

[CHAPS]

Haha...:donut: :burger:

Seriously, the best move I ever made was just training and eating for the first 4 or so years between 19 and 22. At 20, I was up to 296. ALthough there was fat to lose, when I did drop it, all that newly acquired muscle was there. I had an abdominal hernia these past couple of months so it is hard to say when my next show will be. I'm figuring early Spring of next year as I want to do it right.

Keep the posts coming as it is always interesting to see everyone's plans.

Also, maybe we can make a Q and A section if NP is ok with it for training and diet as a sub forum in the Np section......

I agree with this me too, i got up to 280lbs at 19yr and that was with all natural except for one, 8 week S1+ cycle which packed on the last 30lbs, ya i also had chub but doing that built a wicked base. I was eating 5500calories+ and training like a powerlifter :thumbsup: Now i'm recomping and refining Currently at 237lbs

 

[John Smeton]

grexx how many grams of Glutamine do you dose per day

 

[grexx]

40 grams l glutamine

10 g in AM

10 pre and post

10 g before bed

 

[grexx]

is that it for you guys!!

I know there are more ideas or questions:aargh:

 

[NickW]

I don't really have an off season per se. Here are the supplements I stick with throughout most of the year though:

Whey protein
WMS
CEE
some kind of joint support (SuperCissus+ from now on, works amazingly well and very fast)
Cytocarb II powder
some sort of stim for pre-workout or early mornings (adrenaline right now)

I will also be taking the PSlin/AP stack as much as possible from now on, but I am not sure if I should be cycling and if so how long should my on and off cycles be?

I also think cycle support should be taken by anyone who cycles ph's.

 

[methodice]

Ok here is a question. Which supps have helped with recovery the most?

 

[grexx]

For recovery, I am loving WMS with 50 g whey, 10 g glutamine, 3-6 g CEE, and AP/SUper Cissus

At night, I am using GABA, Glutamine, Powerfull and ZMA

In the AM, I love whey, b-vitamins, multi, fish oils, glutamine

 

[nycste]

def one of the few guys who uses gluatmine interesting not here to say blah blah stuff works or doesnt. just impresses me someone with your body and knowledge uses it so makes me start to question it again ! im all about the bcaa, leucine, and taurine

 

[Distilled Water]

I gotta go a little light this year because Im buying a new car so this is what I got

Seasathin
CLA
Fish Oil (mega dose 30gr+)
Yellow Gold (maybe)
Cycle Support... gotta stay healthy right, lol
SizeON (got for $20)
and lots of food

*Year round stuff
Creatine Mono
Glutamine
Taurine
BCAA's

I'm doing NeoVar + RPM now and it's very nice. I may throw it in to somthing if I ever needed a P.C.T or somthing like that

 

[Alpine]

What are everybody's off season bulking shopping list?

I am currently loving:

Kwick Karb
L-Glutamine
VPX NO Shotgun
RPM
Dialene 4
PSLin
AP
Super Cissus
Powerfull
Generic Labz BCAA-EE


Working absolute wonders for lean muscle gains.....

What are you doing?

40 grams l glutamine

10 g in AM

10 pre and post

10 g before bed

Why are people still taking Glutamine? I dont get it...
I know it was once hot. I know every gym "guru" in the 90's swore buy it... but its been debunked. Oral glutamine is useless.

 

[John Smeton]

Why are people still taking Glutamine? I dont get it...
I know it was once hot. I know every gym "guru" in the 90's swore buy it... but its been debunked. Oral glutamine is useless.

Glutamine hater!

Research shows otherwise on Pubmed Alpine

 

[Alpine]

Glutamine hater!

Research shows otherwise on Pubmed Alpine

lol wut... ive seen the studies.

Im not talking IV or anything. Im talking about dumping the powder down your gullet. The absorption is horrible. For a well fed (or even slightly underfed, i.e. dieting) weight training athlete, oral glutamine is pretty useless.

For your plasma glutamine levels to be tanked enough for this to matter you would need to be a burn victim or something. Even then it would need to be IV. The lil dip in plasma glutamine levels after workout is nothing. The only people still promoting oral glutamine with bastardizations of pubmed studies are people who have an interest in its sales.

 

[John Smeton]

suit yourself"

 

[grexx]

aI am loving the RPM/BCAA EE (Generic Labz)/PSlin pre workout boost with WMS during the workout and a dextrose/creatine blend post!! Off season time at currently at 286 on my way to 315!!!!!:bb3: