Abliderate Application

  1. Abliderate Application


    Hey dsade,

    Got a question about applying the Abliderate. Since the carrier penetrates deep enough to hit VAT, is Abliderate systemic, or does it still target locally?

    I was curious if it was actually necessary to apply it to the stomach area for waistline reduction?


    Thanks.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Mass_69 View Post
    Hey dsade,

    Got a question about applying the Abliderate. Since the carrier penetrates deep enough to hit VAT, is Abliderate systemic, or does it still target locally?

    I was curious if it was actually necessary to apply it to the stomach area for waistline reduction?


    Thanks.
    bump

  3. Seeing as how it's a localized infusion matrix, I'd say yes apply to abs.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!


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  4. Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    Seeing as how it's a localized infusion matrix, I'd say yes apply to abs.
    So when you add formestance to it is it still localized or systematic or both ?

  5. The carrier is localized so anything added to it will remain localized.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  6. Does this differ to formestane? Which is better or are they two totally different products?

    I was going to get 2 x 8oz penetrate and 2 x 5g's Formestane should I change this for better results?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    Seeing as how it's a localized infusion matrix, I'd say yes apply to abs.
    I guess that's what I wasn't sure about, whether or not it was a localized application. For some reason, I'm under the impression that this is a different carrier than Penetrate.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Mass_69 View Post
    I guess that's what I wasn't sure about, whether or not it was a localized application. For some reason, I'm under the impression that this is a different carrier than Penetrate.
    It is... penetrate is a systemic carrier, abliderate and lipoderm are localized carriers(spot selective.. and just what your looking for).
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  9. Quote Originally Posted by neoborn View Post
    Does this differ to formestane? Which is better or are they two totally different products?

    I was going to get 2 x 8oz penetrate and 2 x 5g's Formestane should I change this for better results?
    Depends on what you want. For visceral fat reduction abliderate contains 7oxo a potent cortisol reduction agent, which would help lean that midsection up. Adding form into the solution would allow for a localized application in which one could obtain the ai benefits yeilding an additional leaning aspect as well as spot selection for targeted gyno reduction by applying to the chest. In theory combining the two is the old "two birds with one stone".
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  10. it has BA in it..BA when it is injected or absorbed transdermally crystalizes ..thats why when you inject test or whatever with a lot of BA in it the site will be sore..it also allows you to fit more active in a solution because its a good solvent

  11. Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    Depends on what you want. For visceral fat reduction abliderate contains 7oxo a potent cortisol reduction agent, which would help lean that midsection up. Adding form into the solution would allow for a localized application in which one could obtain the ai benefits yeilding an additional leaning aspect as well as spot selection for targeted gyno reduction by applying to the chest. In theory combining the two is the old "two birds with one stone".
    So if you you were to use penetrate and add 7oxo and form to it the systematic application should yield better results toward over all lean mass ?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    So if you you were to use penetrate and add 7oxo and form to it the systematic application should yield better results toward over all lean mass ?

    systematically yea..abliderate is for spot reduction

  13. Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    So if you you were to use penetrate and add 7oxo and form to it the systematic application should yield better results toward over all lean mass ?
    For form perhaps... with 7oxo(abliderate) the effects are primarily target at cortisol reduction which excerts visceral adipose storage. A site specific delievery to the area primarily effected by it's actions would yeild better results then systmemic.

    Supposedly form helps block gyno and fat formation in the chest area, so in theory a specific delivery to the chest could in essence aid in that regard as well. For overall benefits such as increased strength, decreased shgb, and such a systemic approach would be warrented. It all just depends on what your specifically looking for out of your products.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    For form perhaps... with 7oxo(abliderate) the effects are primarily target at cortisol reduction which excerts visceral adipose storage. A site specific delievery to the area primarily effected by it's actions would yeild better results then systmemic.

    Supposedly form helps block gyno and fat formation in the chest area, so in theory a specific delivery to the chest could in essence aid in that regard as well. For overall benefits such as increased strength, decreased shgb, and such a systemic approach would be warrented. It all just depends on what your specifically looking for out of your products.
    Thanks again to you and wojo for all your help.

  15. No prob man.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  16. Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    No prob man.
    I have begin to see strength gains with abliberate and formestance after 2 wk's applying to abs,chest,bi's,forearms,inner thighs

  17. Ok, so is this correct?

    Penetrate = systemic delivery
    Abliderate = local delivery of stuff like 7oxo and formestane
    Lipoderm = local delivery of stuff like yohimbine and caffeine

  18. Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    Depends on what you want. For visceral fat reduction abliderate contains 7oxo a potent cortisol reduction agent, which would help lean that midsection up. Adding form into the solution would allow for a localized application in which one could obtain the ai benefits yeilding an additional leaning aspect as well as spot selection for targeted gyno reduction by applying to the chest. In theory combining the two is the old "two birds with one stone".
    Throw in some DHT base and we'll zap that stinkin gyno in no time!

  19. Quote Originally Posted by thicketman View Post
    Ok, so is this correct?

    Penetrate = systemic delivery
    Abliderate = local delivery of stuff like 7oxo and formestane
    Lipoderm = local delivery of stuff like yohimbine and caffeine
    Correct yea be me matey.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  20. Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    Depends on what you want. For visceral fat reduction abliderate contains 7oxo a potent cortisol reduction agent, which would help lean that midsection up. Adding form into the solution would allow for a localized application in which one could obtain the ai benefits yeilding an additional leaning aspect as well as spot selection for targeted gyno reduction by applying to the chest. In theory combining the two is the old "two birds with one stone".
    Can you add the bulk Formestane from NP into the bottle of abliderate or do you/I need to buy a extra bottle of some sort of transdermal carrier. Sorry new to these types of product and have mid-section fat that I am having difficulties with getting rid of.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    I have begin to see strength gains with abliberate and formestance after 2 wk's applying to abs,chest,bi's,forearms,inner thighs
    I'm not surprised. Formestane always seems to give me some deicent strength gains.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Breezed_one View Post
    Can you add the bulk Formestane from NP into the bottle of abliderate or do you/I need to buy a extra bottle of some sort of transdermal carrier. Sorry new to these types of product and have mid-section fat that I am having difficulties with getting rid of.
    You can add it directly(try three grams or so).
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  23. Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    You can add it directly(try three grams or so).
    You need to change your name to Nimbus Nutrition and official NP Abliderate Expert.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    You need to change your name to Nimbus Nutrition and official NP Abliderate Expert.
    During my quit moments I like learning about other products as well.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  25. Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    You can add it directly(try three grams or so).
    I got 5 in, on top of 1.5g RK's without even adding heat. I just added a couple grams at a time and shook it vigorously

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Wedgylx View Post
    I got 5 in, on top of 1.5g RK's without even adding heat. I just added a couple grams at a time and shook it vigorously
    that is impressive by itself. It appears that the Abliderate carrier is a much better solvent than the Penetrate carrier.
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    that is impressive by itself. It appears that the Abliderate carrier is a much better solvent than the Penetrate carrier.
    I haven't used the penetrate, so I can't comment on it yet.

    I guess this isn't showing I'm absorbing all of the additions really, but it looks more or less homogenous in the bottle (i don't see clumps of RKs or anything) and it also comes out pretty "even" (again no big clumps) when I pump it into my hand

    also it doesn't leave my skin "grainy" from excess powder

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Wedgylx View Post
    I got 5 in, on top of 1.5g RK's without even adding heat. I just added a couple grams at a time and shook it vigorously
    Very good info, impressive indeed.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!


  

  
 

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