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    Targex coming to NP???


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    I heard from a lil birdie that you might start carrying Targex??? Is it true?? Please say its so!!!




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    Transdermal fat loss. I heard NP was going to start carrying it! PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPRETTY PLEASEPRETTYPLEASE!!!

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    Just talking price right now....but I am trying the product out and it seems to be a decently effective targetted fatloss product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Just talking price right now....but I am trying the product out and it seems to be a decently effective targetted fatloss product.
    this sounds really intresting, have you used Lipoderm ultra ? if so can you compare both of them ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Just talking price right now....but I am trying the product out and it seems to be a decently effective targetted fatloss product.
    This is similar to Liposolv from Giant, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    this sounds really intresting, have you used Lipoderm ultra ? if so can you compare both of them ?
    I used to work for Avant. I have used Lipoderm Ultra a bunch of times.

    Targex is a decent product, yes. I would not put it quite at the level of Lipoderm Ultra...but still effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora_Borealis View Post
    This is similar to Liposolv from Giant, right?
    different MOA, i believe. targex uses glycerr____acid (i forget!), a licorice-based compound that's shown to reduce subQ fat...in women....who are dieting...but i've still heard good things. targex was originally brought to market by IBE's 2 biggest "enemies" (each one an enemy basically because they stole IBE's ideas) i wont give names, i just think it's funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by same_old View Post
    d targex uses glycerr____acid (i forget!)
    Glycyrrhetinic acid
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    I love Targex. Worked great on reducing my love handles. Work it Dsade!! Go on w/your bad self!!

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    Bump for an update??

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblu View Post
    Bump for an update??

    Thanks,

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    Manufacturer is preparing pricing structure for us. I think we came along a tad more quickly than they expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by same_old View Post
    different MOA, i believe. targex uses glycerr____acid (i forget!), a licorice-based compound that's shown to reduce subQ fat...in women....who are dieting...but i've still heard good things. targex was originally brought to market by IBE's 2 biggest "enemies" (each one an enemy basically because they stole IBE's ideas) i wont give names, i just think it's funny.
    Liposolv uses 18 beta-Glycyrrhetinic acid....
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    It all depends on the carrier. I'm pretty sure you don't want GA acting systemically. You want it specifically targeted on your problem areas. I haven't yet been able to see what the Targex carrier formula looks like.

    It should have benzyl alcohol in it. If it doesn't, then someone else needs to make a proper GA local transdermal. The stuff actually has some research behind it.
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    Well I know the man who developed Targex and Im more than confident in his ability to perfect the TDS.

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    Sorry guys I still just don't believe in targeted fat loss(spot reduction). I don't believe there is anything out there that actually does this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Sorry guys I still just don't believe in targeted fat loss(spot reduction). I don't believe there is anything out there that actually does this.
    You should look at the insane amount of feedback, and the write-ups, for the Lipoderm products from Avant Labs. They are extremely effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    You should look at the insane amount of feedback, and the write-ups, for the Lipoderm products from Avant Labs. They are extremely effective.

    I've tried Lipoderm Ultra a few years back with less than stellar results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I've tried Lipoderm Ultra a few years back with less than stellar results.
    That's too bad. I always got great results from the Ultra version, moreseo than the regular. I have used Targex, and I find it decent...especially with added Raspberry Ketones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    That's too bad. I always got great results from the Ultra version, moreseo than the regular. I have used Targex, and I find it decent...especially with added Raspberry Ketones.

    I don't know maybe I'll try again with something newer...
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    Tbone,

    Just b/c your body did not respond to a certain product that certainly does not form conclusive proof that the product is not effective. Everyone's bodies react differently to different compounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Sorry guys I still just don't believe in targeted fat loss(spot reduction). I don't believe there is anything out there that actually does this.
    the fun thing about science is that...

    it has the potential to end arguments that otherwise would just be collections of opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblu View Post
    Well I know the man who developed Targex and Im more than confident in his ability to perfect the TDS.

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    we dont share that opinion. C is a decent guy, but certainly not a chemist. there is always room for error and improvement...and i wish i could put more stock in the reviews targex has gotten the last few years, but i know how much meatheads on steroid boards fall prey to placebo and wishful thinking. plenty of UG's have sold pure oil as injectable steroids and gotten great reviews.

    lord, the price point is so good with this stuff....
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    I'm still hitting them to improve the leaky pump before I will push harder. Shaking this before applying, especially with added RKs and caffeine, becomes an extreme mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Sorry guys I still just don't believe in targeted fat loss(spot reduction). I don't believe there is anything out there that actually does this.
    Seems unlikely, but there's some evidence it works.

    Steroids. 2005 Jul;70(8):538-42. Epub 2005 Apr 12.

    Glycyrrhetinic acid, the active principle of licorice, can reduce the thickness of subcutaneous thigh fat through topical application.

    Armanini D, Nacamulli D, Francini-Pesenti F, Battagin G, Ragazzi E, Fiore C.

    Cortisol is involved in the distribution and deposition of fat, and its action is regulated by the activity of 11beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase. Glycyrrhetinic acid, the active principle of licorice root, blocks 11beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1, thus reducing the availability of cortisol at the level of adipocytes. We evaluated the effect of topical application of a cream containing glycyrrhetinic acid in the thickness of fat at the level of the thigh. Eighteen healthy women (age range 20-33 years) with normal BMI were randomly allocated to treatment, at the level of the dominant thigh, with a cream containing 2.5% glycyrrhetinic acid (n=9) or with a placebo cream containing the excipients alone (n=9). Before and after 1 month of treatment both the circumference and the thickness of the superficial fat layer of the thighs (by ultrasound analysis) were measured. The circumference and the thickness of the superficial fat layer were significantly reduced in comparison to the controlateral untreated thigh and to control subjects treated with the placebo cream. No changes were observed in blood pressure, plasma renin activity, plasma aldosterone or cortisol. The effect of glycyrrhetinic acid on the thickness of subcutaneous fat was likely related to a block of 11beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1 at the level of fat cells; therefore, glycyrrhetinic acid could be effectively used in the reduction of unwanted local fat accumulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by same_old View Post
    I read that, but my question would be couldn't the reduction be from a loss in water weight and not actual fat?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblu View Post
    Tbone,

    Just b/c your body did not respond to a certain product that certainly does not form conclusive proof that the product is not effective. Everyone's bodies react differently to different compounds.

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    I know that all too well because I seem to respond extremely differently than anyone elese to supplements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by same_old View Post
    we dont share that opinion. C is a decent guy, but certainly not a chemist. there is always room for error and improvement...and i wish i could put more stock in the reviews targex has gotten the last few years, but i know how much meatheads on steroid boards fall prey to placebo and wishful thinking. plenty of UG's have sold pure oil as injectable steroids and gotten great reviews.

    lord, the price point is so good with this stuff....
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    Who is "we"???? Most ug labs are not ran by chemists. And some of the world's greatest 'chemists' were never formally educated. I agree there is always room for improvement. And I def. agree w/Dsade that the pump top sucks and needs to be replaced. I think they should use a spray bottle top similar to Primordial Performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I read that, but my question would be couldn't the reduction be from a loss in water weight and not actual fat?.
    That's a good question. The abstract says the changes in the superficial fat layer were measured by circumference (probably a tape measure) and ultrasound. A tape measure won't discriminate between loss of water or reduction of fat. The question is can ultrasound be "tricked" by water loss? I honestly don't know.
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    Bump for update!! Dsade I have heard there is new improved Targex formula coming out. Did Carlito add RKs??? When will I see a Targex + DCP combo deal on NP???

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    Bump again! I love Targex! Cmon guys get on it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMyth View Post
    Bump again! I love Targex! Cmon guys get on it!
    Been out of the loop, and just realized my PM box was full. Let me check on this.
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    Dsade is the man of all men!
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    Yeahhhhh. I love the thought of all the potential combo deals Dsade could offer w/Targex!!

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    We are simply getting NO response from them WRT finalizing wholesale pricing. If anyone is in contact with them, have them respond.

    Can't do anything until then.
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    I will email and tell him to contact you

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    Dsade,

    He said he was going to pm you on Mindandmuscle.

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    babyblu, are you a rep for the company? Come on...you can tell us
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    Why b/c I know C---to? He doesn't even sell Targex direct? So how could I be a company rep?? TCS doesnt have company reps! Or b/c Im friends w/Chaos but I dont think Chemone even carries anymore?? I did see another research company on another board carrying targex, maybe Rhino Research?? If I was going to rep for anyone I would love to rep for ALRI or a protein co!! Free Jungle Warfare and whey for everyone!!

    Im just a law school student who loves cheap supps.

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