- 10-25-2005, 09:19 AM
Just got an email and it's confirmed...it seems the same fate that befell SD is disposing M-TRN, Prosz, EMax, etc... The M-TRN is still on presale and we will be receiving our limited shipment, but once it sells out that's it...eventually the same will happen to all the other aforementioned items (at least that's what I'm being told)
- 10-25-2005, 10:27 AM
Originally Posted by Robboe
A recent example for me, would be SD. When SD came out PA said he thought it would work well, but might be a lil harsh. Well that is pretty much what happened. He is not always 100% correct but his track reord is better than anyone else, bar none.
As for ALRI, we really do not know anything about his background and such. I would rather listen or buy products from an entity with a transparnet and longstanding background.
PA keeps tabs on other firms for a very good reason, they are his competition and he needs to stay on top of the ball. The Rebound debacle is a glaring example. I believe PA handled that situation very professionally. He could have gone in for blood, but did not.
Also, around the same time he tested Gaspari's Rebound derivative and found it to be good and said so. He had tested some of Gaspari's M-D prior and found that to be very bad and called them on it as well as informing the masses. Who else does this??? NOBODY..... respect earned.
- 10-25-2005, 11:31 AM
Stryder your saying that the people who ordered Methoxy-TRN via preorder ARE going to recieve it, right?
10-25-2005, 12:48 PM
10-25-2005, 01:27 PM
Yes, you guys will be getting your's. We have a set amount on the site and those who place an order until that set amount reaches zero will be guaranteed their's.Originally Posted by Schwaugher
10-25-2005, 02:21 PM
I love you man! lol j/k im not takin it that far but its a great thing to hear. What about halo 50?Originally Posted by stryder
10-25-2005, 05:56 PM
10-25-2005, 09:23 PM
Hey whats up bro, shoot me a PM when you get a chanceOriginally Posted by GuardDog
10-26-2005, 12:08 AM
Yup, that is called capitalism.Originally Posted by Robboe
Everyone in the supp industry clones a popular or effective suplement.
10-26-2005, 05:05 AM
10-26-2005, 09:11 AM
Funny though how he waits to do so until DS has an issue with production. Previously, it was all about how 6-OXO was the more effective and proven product. Then bam, a bad batch of RXT is discovered, sales stop abruptly and back orders/refunds are rampant. Suddenly PA drops his ATD on the market......Originally Posted by StanChampion
I too am done with this discussion, I feel like an Atheist trying to persuade the Pope into believing God does not exist.....
10-26-2005, 10:28 AM
Originally Posted by Max32
Do you really think PA just had ATD sitting around waiting for DS to have a screwed up batch?
No, PA was planning on releasing ATD to the market regardless. PA saw the success of Rebound and wanted some market share in that as well as I bet it was eating into smoe of his 6oxo sales.
PA is a competitor of DS and was lucky (from a competitors viewpoint) to have discovered that DS had significant quality problem with their competing prodcut. PA informed DS of the quality control problem and was fairly quiet about it on the boards. DS THANKED PA on this board and a couple others and DS and PA went back to competing with each other. There was no mud slinging between the two. PA could have more thoughly exploited the issue, but did not. IMO DS and PA handled everything professionally.
PA caught a lucky break in regard to his timing of releasing ATD and now the market is deciding who is the best. Typical American capitalism, survival of the fittest and your competition is watching you more closely than anyone else.
I can be done with this as well. We can agree to disagree.
10-26-2005, 10:31 AM
sounds good to me man...Originally Posted by StanChampion
10-26-2005, 10:50 AM
No, no, Patrick absolutely had planned to release an ATD product, but the timing of his testing with the timing of the release of his product were absolutely in sync.
And yes, i do thank Pat for pointing out the issue.
I'll leave it there.
10-26-2005, 10:55 AM
We ubber hijacked this thread ...lol
now back to your regular programming.
10-26-2005, 07:53 PM
what was the regular programming again????
10-27-2005, 08:05 AM
Well, that's both good and bad news. Good news is that I'll be getting my trn, bad is that the AX, ALRI and DS pro-steroids are getting pulled. Are you just planning on selling off the remaining inventory PP, SD, etc. and not re-ordering?Originally Posted by stryder
10-27-2005, 02:31 PM
Yes, selling what we have and that's it.Originally Posted by screwbol
10-27-2005, 03:31 PM
Hey cheif...YGPM.Originally Posted by Max32
10-28-2005, 05:00 PM
Patrick arnold says that the chemical in TRN is inactive, and hence inneffective WRT anabolic/androgenic effects in the human body. He didn't mention any toxicity issues. I guess the guinea pigs will have to find out if this is a banger or a bust.
10-28-2005, 08:46 PM
yup I read that, but did not want to post it hereOriginally Posted by screwbol
On his board he clearly states what he thinks about this new ALRI product. I guess we will have to wait for some real world testing by someone.
10-28-2005, 09:45 PM
I really would not put too much stock in anything PA has to say in regards to ALR, ALRI, etc... The guy seems to want to succeed at all costs, even if that means badmouthing on false pretense to his disciples on various bbuilding forums....Originally Posted by screwbol
10-29-2005, 02:47 PM
I sorta agree Max, PA (for whatever reason) has it out for ALRI.
I'd wait to see logs to see if this is good or not, I wouldn't JUST go on what PA says.
10-29-2005, 04:52 PM
I'm going to wait for the logs, even though I did buy 4 bottles . All I know is I can't remember a "BAD" product ALRI has come out with. Ergomax, MAX LMG, Retain, Ultra Hot (though still not sure on Ultra Hotter), Prostan, Venom all solid products. Why should Methoxy-TRN be that much different?
10-30-2005, 04:55 AM
ALRI sell only STRONG AND POTENT stuff
potent stuff or ultra potent stuff is what we need to know
10-31-2005, 03:54 PM
Well, my order arrived today as expected. Stryder is tops. Anyway, I took the first pill about 30 min ago and am going to run this alone at 3 pills (4.5mg) per day. I must say these blue capsules are mighty large considering they contain only 1.5mg of actives. NE Way, time to rock n roll and see what this is all about. Maybe if I get some results soon enough I can order more before it runs out.
10-31-2005, 04:05 PM
If you seriously did get your order in and started a cycle of M-TRN today then it would be great if you kept a log somewhere on the site. If you are willing to do so your information could prove to be very useful to others.Originally Posted by screwbol
10-31-2005, 05:04 PM
10-31-2005, 05:34 PM
Did someone say.... Please keep a log
10-31-2005, 05:57 PM
10-31-2005, 06:43 PM
Most def keep a log bro! I got my 2 in today and have another 2 on the way along with E max LMG and halodrol! Figured id buy it for ****s n giggles. So keep us updated!
10-31-2005, 10:28 PM
Do any of you guys think this product will be worth purchasing? Any one did much research on the matter?Originally Posted by stryder
10-31-2005, 10:37 PM
mg for mg comparisons arent always the way to go id say its better to compare effevtive dosages as thats what people will be using.Originally Posted by Grmlock
10-31-2005, 10:38 PM
I trust Alri so i went on the notion of it being good. I dont see how a change in the structure could make it not work when its basically tren. I guess we shall see but if it doesnt work he got 160 bucks outa me! lol
11-01-2005, 12:37 AM
PA isn't the most upstanding guy in the world. Take his word with a grain or two of salt.
11-01-2005, 06:55 AM
Agreed, I don't recall if it was here or a bb.com that he got caught w/multiple user names. So he is what, 40 years old, and he still plays teenage games w/ multiple user names.Originally Posted by TheCrownedOne
11-01-2005, 06:18 PM
OKAY! I will keep a log. What kind of info do I need to include? I was thinking the following:
Max lifts (box squat, floor press, deadlift, flat bench, bb rows-- I am a powerlifter)
Diet-g of protein, total kcals
Workout log-3-4x a week WSB style
Doseage/timing for the TRN
History of anabolics/years training
Anything else I need to include? Where should this be posted?
Thanks, er, I mean you're welcome. J/K. Bring it on, TRN! LOL.
11-01-2005, 06:27 PM
11-01-2005, 07:02 PM
I think the Cycle Info section would be appropriate. Are you running the Methoxy solo?Originally Posted by screwbol
11-01-2005, 07:44 PM
YEs, solo and 3 weeks after a PP/SD stack. Log is already started in the Cycle section of AM.Originally Posted by jonny21
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