Phenibut restock: New or old version

[BigBody]

I noticed that your larger sizes of Phenibut are out of stock:
NutraPlanet Phenibut Powder (500 grams)
NutraPlanet Phenibut Powder (1 Kilo)
Do you have an ETA on restock and will it be the old or the new version?
The new version seems to have infected EVERYTHING with Phenibut in it.
Extremely noticeable in new lots of Mind Bender Shots.
I can also notice it in my new lot of Phenibut Powder (100g) as well as BN's bulk.

I'm surprised not to find more threads asking about the change. It IS noticeable. And no I do not overuse this supplement, I work at a nutrition store so I sample our samples
IMO:
The old version seemed to work faster and more effectively. The new stuff is not as potent as the old version, even if you double the dose. It seems to be a longer acting lighter version or something like that. That is just my personal experience, and MANY others have commented the same at my store. Although, that is a small cross section of people, so I do not speak for everyone.

[Hank Vangut]

yes it will be restocked as phenibut is a decent seller.
it should be the same stock from our current supplier.
anyone else noticing a difference in the bulk phenibut?
i haven't tried it myself, so any feedback would be appreciated here.
matt will likely pop in here as well since he is our bulk supply guru.

[BigBody]

I know it tests to be the same, but there are alot of products reviews that say similar things to what I have. I know companies use similar suppliers, so it makes sense that the change was noticed in a variety of different products.
Now I haven't gone and tried every brand, I've only tried the ones above but I've read similar reviews for an array of brands.

[BigBody]

Just so my tone doesn't seem negative, I do appreciate you guys @ Nutra. And I appreciate you beating EVERYONES bulk price. Basically if the formula stays the same (new) then I appreciate you selling it at the price you do.

[custom]

Yeah, we have been getting this from the same place for a few years now.

It should be re-stocked shortly as they were backordered on it at the moment.

[Steveoph]

Yeah, we have been getting this from the same place for a few years now.

It should be re-stocked shortly as they were backordered on it at the moment.

That just means it's good ! I think I'll be picking some of this up on my next order.

[BigBody]

ETA?

[BigBody]

BUMP on the ETA

[BigBody]

Bump again on ETA

[David Dunn]

Interesting that this topic got started and I ,issed it.

I received an order placed early March and went through it in no time. I dosed as high as 5g at a time with virtually no response either positive or negative.

I usually dose 2-3g and within a short time experience a calming, soothing effect. With this last order nothing at all at up to 5g.

[BigBody]

Thank you, finally someone commented on this. If you search on Phenibut as a title search, there are numerous other reports stating the same. Same at BN's forums. BN actually stopped carrying Phenibut because of the decrease in quality. And apparently they tried 3 different sources. This is admirable because they didn't want to anger customers or place an asterisk next to their product, but I feel this is still a very worthy product regardless of the potency decrease.
Personally, I feel some agency intervened to these manufactures and made them somehow change their formula. I believe this was for safety sake because it was to strong apparently. Sounds stupid, but why else would multiple manufactures of phenibut all have the same simultaneous decrease in potency? And it has affected EVERYTHING with phenibut in it IMO. Name me 1 product that contains a new batch of phenibut in it and I'll bet you it changed. Multiple posts I've read on phenibut containing products confirms this.

[BigBody]

I do get very noticeable relaxation at 6 grams with the new version, but it is different that the old version and with the old version much less dosage was needed.

[TripDog]

Interesting that this topic got started and I ,issed it.

I received an order placed early March and went through it in no time. I dosed as high as 5g at a time with virtually no response either positive or negative.

I usually dose 2-3g and within a short time experience a calming, soothing effect. With this last order nothing at all at up to 5g.

I just got 500 grams in early march and noticed the exact same thing?? It's not what it was, and im def not happy about it...

[BigBody]

TripDog and B5150:
Do you guys take anything that affects your GabaB receptors (ex. alcohol) regularly?
I am asking because you say you get NO effect.
Just wondering if you have any downregulation.
I do not take any drugs that could affect GabaB receptors and do not drink.
I do get some effect but it is dosed on an empty stomach relatively high (6g). I noticed that it takes a LONG time to reach effect compared to the old version (2-4 hours vs <1hr).

[TripDog]

TripDog and B5150:
Do you guys take anything that affects your GabaB receptors (ex. alcohol) regularly?
I am asking because you say you get NO effect.
Just wondering if you have any downregulation.
I do not take any drugs that could affect GabaB receptors (zyrtec, androgel, metformin, lisinopril) and do not drink.
I do get some effect but it is dosed on an empty stomach relatively high (6g). I noticed that it takes a LONG time to reach effect compared to the old version (2-4 hours vs <1hr).

No I cant say i take any of those listed. I do get effect but its a different and much milder effect, and I dont use it that often , so I would know the difference.

[stosh517]

I do get very noticeable relaxation at 6 grams with the new version, but it is different that the old version and with the old version much less dosage was needed.

way different...the new version gives me no next day "afterglow"...that's always been phen's best effect. Now, when i use it, it's basically just as a sleep aid. I've bought both old and new from BN...old had a salt-like texture to it and tasted very bitter...800mg was all you needed...the new looks and tastes like its been cut with baking soda...yeah lots of pissed off people over on the BN boards...

[BigBody]

Update?

[custom]

It was back ordered from our supplier. We should be getting it in a few days.

[slowprogress]

I actually noticed a difference myself, the texture was the first thing. Almost a 'fluffier' texture, like someone said, not as grainy.

[Mixelflick]

New vs. old is close enough, IMO.

PLEASE don't stop carrying it as it's the only thing that allows me to sleep/relax. You guys are tops and with Bulk no longer carrying it, Nutra will have the market more or less cornered. It is a good seller and will only get better.