Poll: Which Nutracap(s) would you like to see?

Be advised that this is a public poll: other users can see the choice(s) you selected.

I3C/DIM Caps: Input Required

Page 1 of 3 123 Last
  1. I3C/DIM Caps: Input Required


    In the YOU Choose the Next NP Product! thread, many of you showed your support for I3C/DIM caps, however there are varying opinions on which is best. The poll options represent the different ways the caps can be done. We may also be offering bulk powders, which would allow you to choose your own dosing protocol.

    Let's turn this thread into a productive discussion on the merits of I3C vs. DIM. Feel free to quote from previous threads, and explain your poll choice. Also feel free to discuss dosing schemes. For those of you unaware, I3C is Indole-3-Carbinole, and DIM is diindolyl methane , which can be made from I3C. Google will provide a general description of these 2 compounds.


  2. Yeah, been waiting for this thread...I have quite a few pieces of info on both ...

    Be back after the Alabama/auburn game...
    ---The internet is the father of the electronic lynch-mob---
    •   
       


  3. theres a study out there that uses GENISTEIN and I3C and using them together, lets the other work better, and at a lesser dose, the study is on my other computer, ill post it up here thouhg for you all to see when i can!!!

  4. I thought we had a similar discussion in a different thread before the poll for the next NutraPlanet product was started?
    Product Educator | USPowders
    Statements made by this online persona are the sole property of the owner, and do not necessarily reflect USPowders’ opinion as a whole.
    •   
       


  5. I3C+DIM in one formula.

    Some useful input here:

    Any chance of stocking Diindolylmethane (DIM)?
    Product Educator | USPowders
    Statements made by this online persona are the sole property of the owner, and do not necessarily reflect USPowders’ opinion as a whole.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    I3C+DIM in one formula.

    Some useful input here:

    Any chance of stocking Diindolylmethane (DIM)?
    sometimes I feel like stevie wonder or ray charles!
    ---The internet is the father of the electronic lynch-mob---

  7. Quote Originally Posted by hardknock View Post
    sometimes I feel like stevie wonder or ray charles!
    Well NP is looking forward to being Santa Claus

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Well NP is looking forward to being Santa Claus
    As am i.... Just don't cross-reference me with either of his lists....I'd prefer a little blind faith.

  9. Just so Im clear, will this be an NP branded product, or will NP simply carry one of the more trusted brands that are already on the market?
    PHF Rep


  10. Quote Originally Posted by RoadBlocK View Post
    Just so Im clear, will this be an NP branded product, or will NP simply carry one of the more trusted brands that are already on the market?
    This will be released as part of our NutraCap line , AFAIK.

  11. If it was a combo, what would the amount of each ingredient be?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Ev52 View Post
    If it was a combo, what would the amount of each ingredient be?
    We would listen to your advice and take the most popular/well reasoned option. If this does become a NutraCap, we want as many people to be happy with our choice as possible hence the poll/discussion. We're working with you, the consumers, to design the best product

  13. progress update?

  14. I would rather see pure I3C caps over DIM, I3C is better supported.

  15. DEFINATELY JUST GO WITH DIM

    "it should also be noted that all of the responses to I3C in cell culture studies, actually reflect the actions of DIM, since I3C is almost quantitatively converted to DIM in cell culture media at 37[degrees]C in about 24 hours. Most importantly, the implication made by Life Extension that DIM promotes breast cancer is inaccurate and misleading. In fact, DIM has recently been shown by leading investigators in this field to inhibit the growth and potential spread of breast cancer in vivo."

  16. DIM versus I3C effect on estrogen metabolism - Letter to the Editor

    full article-http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_2002_May/ai_85131533

  17. Not just that article, i have read lots of articles saying DIM is much better than I3C.

    I3C converts to DIM to exert its effects.

    Also i see that I3C has the most votes at this time, at least go with the I3C/DIM combination if not DIM alone.

  18. This link says that DIM is stronger than I3C, so I would go for the DIM. I am no chemist so I am going off what this says.

    http://youngagain.com/magento/supplements/dim.html

  19. I wouldn't both with it if it had DIM in it. Straight I3C please.

    If anyone is interested: http://www.discountanabolics.com/for...ghlight=Zeligs

  20. I3C only please...

  21. I3C only is the way to go. Tried, tested and true.

  22. I think this debate is a little complicated, it seems like there are people,research saying dim is better or I3C is better.

    If you do I3C,maybe you should add vitamin C.
    "The importance of co-factors in determining how these phytochemicals behave is illustrated by what vitamin C does to I3C. If vitamin C is not present when cruciferous vegetables are eaten, more I3C will naturally form. If vitamin C is added, less I3C will form, but more of a different product will result from digestion. It’s called ascorbigen, and it can produce 20 times more ICZ than I3C. No one knows the significance of this yet, although it’s been suggested that ICZ may be able to change estrogen metabolism better than I3C or DIM."

  23. Vitamin C is pretty simple to supplement additionally; I think most users would prefer us to do simply I3C and/or DIM, and you can just take 1/4 tsp of Vit C like http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/n...acid-8-oz.html

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Ubiyca View Post
    I3C only is the way to go. Tried, tested and true.
    Dont understand why some are opting for i3c . The conversion process to Diim in the body is solely reliant on how effecient the enzymes are that do the conversion process I feel this will vary from person to person.

    My vote goes with Diim ,Im not saying if you ingest 150mg youll absorb 150 mg but at least your off the starting block

  25. which one will be more cost effective in terms of results?

    I think both I3C and DIM work,but which one will deliver the same results at a cheaper price?

  26. BioDIM contains DIM (diindolylmethane), a phytonutrient found in broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage and brussel sprouts. Studies show it works indirectly by changing the way estrogen is metabolized, from the æbadÆ pathway to the ægoodÆ pathway.* Consequently, BioDIM may play a role in the way the body copes with estrogens.* Dosage varies depending upon desired results
    DIRECTIONS:75 mg to 300 mg per day with meals.

    UK PRICE IS £25.95 FOR 60 CAPS ; 150MG PER DAY LASTS 30 DAYS .

    Indole-3-Carbinol 250mg BY Vitamin Research Products
    costs £24.95 for 60 capsules
    DIRECTIONS:Two capsules per day One in the morning and One at night.
    Again 30 days supply but your getting 500 mg of i3c compared to 150 mg of Dim. The Dim dose can be adjusted upwards but wont last as long
    I3C is a naturally occurring phytonutrient found in cruciferous vegetables. I3C initiates a series of reactions in the body that culminates in the elimination of estrogen.* Researchers have observed that metabolism of estrogen occurs via one of two pathways: The æharmfulÆ metabolic pathway, 16 alpha-hydroxylation, or the æbeneficialÆ metabolic pathway, 2-hydroxylation. I3C encourages estrogen to take the least harmful path, a process that transforms estrogen into an antiestrogen.* Because testosterone converts to estrogen even in the male body, I3C may support individuals who take testosterone precursors

    So based on UK PRICES BY THE SAME MANUFACTURER theres not much to choose between them

  27. I lean towards a pure DIM product or a product where DIM is the main ingredient.

    You might want to consider something like 60%DIM, 30%I3C and the remainder bioprene and/or soy lecithin/phosphatidyl choline to improve absorption. I will be toying with a mix like this once the raws arrive.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by bioman;
    I lean towards a pure DIM product or a product where DIM is the main ingredient.

    You might want to consider something like 60%DIM, 30%I3C and the remainder bioprene and/or soy lecithin/phosphatidyl choline to improve absorption. I will be toying with a mix like this once the raws arrive.
    Great suggestion! I have always argued for a blend of DIM and I3C. I definitely support your proposal of about 30% I3C in the blend. Well done!
    Product Educator | USPowders
    Statements made by this online persona are the sole property of the owner, and do not necessarily reflect USPowders’ opinion as a whole.
  •   

      
     

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Replies: 12
    Last Post: 01-25-2008, 07:15 AM
  2. Replies: 25
    Last Post: 09-11-2007, 11:18 PM
  3. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 06-27-2007, 08:19 PM
Log in
Log in