So....Vicaine V2 got released today

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  1. So....Vicaine V2 got released today


    No label per se but if you read through the narrative all the original ingredients are there. Doesn't mention dosages either other than it looks like Teacrine was bumped to 200mg.

    Could be wrong but isn't Tianeptine the stuff that kid took and died from Powder City...prob. a bunch of factors that caused him to pass, kid might have taken too much, etc.

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by justhere4comm View Post
    Already checked that thread out...no code in there unless I'm blind

  4. Quote Originally Posted by shockrock3 View Post
    No label per se but if you read through the narrative all the original ingredients are there. Doesn't mention dosages either other than it looks like Teacrine was bumped to 200mg.

    Could be wrong but isn't Tianeptine the stuff that kid took and died from Powder City...prob. a bunch of factors that caused him to pass, kid might have taken too much, etc.

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    Dont know about codes but you are correct regarding your Powder City comment. Apaprently some kid mixed with alochol and had a bad reaction. I believe he also dosed too much as part of lawsuit was regarding PC not providing any type of safety info and/or dosing instructions on their site.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by shockrock3 View Post
    Already checked that thread out...no code in there unless I'm blind
    Actually in case you guys didn't see Vicaine is now on the forum via sponsor MA Labs. You can use my code "WES20" over at www.masupps.com


    I also saw that kid who died from Tianeptine. I did not see the toxicology report, but I do know that if abused it can def carry some sides. Also if you mix with alcohol or other drugs you are asking for trouble.

    Pretty sure the basis of the lawsuit was that "Powder City" did not have adequate warning labels. Have not heard what is happening with it recently but it is very sad overall
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  6. That kid did NOT die from tianeptine. It was a cornucopia of drugs that killed him, but because tianeptine was the unknown compound of the bunch, and the company did not provide any information on how to use it, Powder City was an easy target.

    This situation is similar to the kid who died from "steroids" a few years ago. He committed suicide. His parents believe steroids caused him to kill himself, despite him having been clinically diagnosed with major depression, as well as other undisclosed mental illnesses, years prior. Apparently, his parents found some testosterone in his room after his death and blamed steroids as the cause of their son's suicide. Of course, the fact that he was already extremely mentally ill--with illnesses that are known to lead to suicide--wasn't the problem; steroids were.

    Unfortunately, grieving parents, especially ignorant ones, are prone to making irrational decisions in this type of situation. They need a scapegoat...and being able to place their finger on a single, definable "villain" makes it not only easier for them to find closure, but it allows them to "reach out" and "educate" others about the dangers of steroids, which makes them feel like their child's death wasn't in vain. When a child dies, anyone and everything becomes a target. They will blame something...because they NEED to in order to find closure..and steroids were an easy target...just like tianeptine was.

    Anyway, tianeptine has been clinically studied at doses over 1,000 mg, which is nearly 100X higher than the normally prescribed dosage of 12.5 mg per dose). Even at this dose no serious, acute side effects were observed on any bodily system...and neither was respiratory depression an issue, as tianeptine does not depress respiratory function in the same way that traditional opiates do.

    At worst, high-dose tianeptine use may have been a minor "contributor" in this Kid's death, but certainly not the main player. Tianeptine is recognized as a very safe drug in the medical field, even when administered at a dosing range well outside that used in clinical practice.

  7. Can't find an ingredient profile. Anyone care to post up?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Can't find an ingredient profile. Anyone care to post up?
    second post: Vicaine - short review

  9. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Can't find an ingredient profile. Anyone care to post up?
    Here you go man:

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  10. Can't find an ingredient profile. Anyone care to post up?

  11. OMG, that is a scary looking ingredient profile. I wish the company luck, but no way could I be ingesting that much tianeptine, theacrine, and caffeine together.

    That is a mega dose of tianeptine sodium. 12.5mg makes me pretty emotionless.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    OMG, that is a scary looking ingredient profile. I wish the company luck, but no way could I be ingesting that much tianeptine, theacrine, and caffeine together.

    That is a mega dose of tianeptine sodium. 12.5mg makes me pretty emotionless.
    Don't forget the flmodafinil.
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  13. Since when dont we list ingredients according to weight on labels? This has my OCD on over drive, and yes I am being nit picky

  14. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    Don't forget the flmodafinil.
    Oh yeah, and that. I was so caught up in the top ingredients that I zoned out the rest. I mean, I guess the price is pretty good considering I would end up only taking like a 1/4 cap at a time. LOL

  15. Quote Originally Posted by shockrock3 View Post
    Already checked that thread out...no code in there unless I'm blind
    I was implying my signature.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    OMG, that is a scary looking ingredient profile. I wish the company luck, but no way could I be ingesting that much tianeptine, theacrine, and caffeine together.

    That is a mega dose of tianeptine sodium. 12.5mg makes me pretty emotionless.
    Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    Don't forget the flmodafinil.

    Nearly 1,000 bottles sold at this point...with a 98% positive user feedback rating. No reported problems AT ALL among any customers. There have now been about a dozen people who have reported using it daily for 3-4 weeks at a time (against label recommendations) and then went cold turkey without any withdrawal symptoms.

    Although I understand some of the hesitation from those who have never used anything like this before, the product was VERY WELL researched and all reports testify to a product that has been safely used by all. Therefore, the previous concerns don't seem to apply. If they did, we would have started hearing about it by now. Vicaine has been around about 6 months now.

    At this point Vicaine has already proven itself everywhere else we advertise...and now it will do so here.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Mike Arnold View Post
    Nearly 1,000 bottles sold at this point...with a 98% positive user feedback rating. No reported problems AT ALL among any customers. There have now been about a dozen people who have reported using it daily for 3-4 weeks at a time (against label recommendations) and then went cold turkey without any withdrawal symptoms.

    Although I understand some of the hesitation from those who have never used anything like this before, the product was VERY WELL researched and all reports testify to a product that has been safely used by all. Therefore, the previous concerns don't seem to apply. If they did, we would have started hearing about it by now. Vicaine has been around about 6 months now.

    At this point Vicaine has already proven itself everywhere else we advertise...and now it will do so here.
    I didn't intend my post as a "knock" against Vicaine, just trying to help out and be informative. I talked to WesleyInman (he's a great guy), and you guys are doing well here about informing people of the nature of the product, so thumbs up for that, but it's only natural that some people will have reservations about a product of this nature, and we all know it's not for everyone. Honestly, I'm excited to try it out (at 1 cap first haha), but I don't have a predisposition to addiction, and I know the potential risks of abusing the product, and I wouldn't want to use it more than a few times a week, if that, but that's just me.
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  18. I'll end up trying a bottle as anything related to noots and euphoria is always interesting to me. Plus, I have tried all of the ingredients separately and know what each does.

    I'll be trying a half cap first and evaluate. It sure would be nice to have a 60cap bottle last 4 months!

  19. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    I didn't intend my post as a "knock" against Vicaine, just trying to help out and be informative. I talked to WesleyInman (he's a great guy), and you guys are doing well here about informing people of the nature of the product, so thumbs up for that, but it's only natural that some people will have reservations about a product of this nature, and we all know it's not for everyone. Honestly, I'm excited to try it out (at 1 cap first haha), but I don't have a predisposition to addiction, and I know the potential risks of abusing the product, and I wouldn't want to use it more than a few times a week, if that, but that's just me.
    I understand. I hope you like it.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    I'll end up trying a bottle as anything related to noots and euphoria is always interesting to me. Plus, I have tried all of the ingredients separately and know what each does.

    I'll be trying a half cap first and evaluate. It sure would be nice to have a 60cap bottle last 4 months!
    I know you have previous experience with these compounds, but unless you're super, super sensitive, I doubt feel much of anything from a half of a capsule. I've read 100+ reviews at this point and have spoken with at least as many. Of these, the vast majority think 2 caps is ideal, with maybe 10% thinking that only 1 cap is ideal...and these are people who haven't used these compounds before and have no tolerance issues.

    By all means, start at whatever dose you want. I'm just letting you know not to expect much at that dose--according to the large number of people who have already used it.

    Thank you for the support.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    I'll end up trying a bottle as anything related to noots and euphoria is always interesting to me. Plus, I have tried all of the ingredients separately and know what each does.

    I'll be trying a half cap first and evaluate. It sure would be nice to have a 60cap bottle last 4 months!
    Honestly the 1 cap from customers has been sufficient for maybe 10% of the clients I have dealt with on this product, which is probably honestly at least 100 people in the last year. With ease. About 60-70% like Vicaine at 2 caps. And maybe say 20% like it at 3 caps.

    For me 3 caps is a bit too strong. I can handle it but it spikes my BP. I feel good, but I don't like spiking my BP, thats just something I have never liked with any compound.

    My point being out of 100+ customers/clients I have never had 1 person say that 1 capsule was "too strong'. I genuinely think you are very very safe to try 1 cap and based on stats, most people are likely to find 2 caps the sweet spot.

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  22. Quote Originally Posted by WesleyInman View Post
    Actually in case you guys didn't see Vicaine is now on the forum via sponsor MA Labs. You can use my code "WES20" over at www.masupps.com


    I also saw that kid who died from Tianeptine. I did not see the toxicology report, but I do know that if abused it can def carry some sides. Also if you mix with alcohol or other drugs you are asking for trouble.

    Pretty sure the basis of the lawsuit was that "Powder City" did not have adequate warning labels. Have not heard what is happening with it recently but it is very sad overall
    I have some samples coming, can't wait to try....i'm not going to be stupid, starting with 2 caps and probably won't go higher.
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  23. Well ****, is it possible to get samples? I'd pay for them and would rather do that than buy a $75 bottle right off the bat.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Well ****, is it possible to get samples? I'd pay for them and would rather do that than buy a $75 bottle right off the bat.
    they just ran a promo...3 lucky guys get to run full bottles!!!
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  25. I'd second the opportunity at purchasing sample packs. Like to see what it like as compared to my kratom. Been watching this stuff for a while just haven't pulled the trigger.
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