This the right place?

  1. This the right place?


    Alright. I'm 24 and 178lbs at 5'8 with 18% body fat trying to cut down to 12-10 by the summer. I don't take any supplements except ZMA.

    I lift four days a week with LISS every morning and HIIT twice a week. Workouts never go beyond an hour.

    So my questions are

    Best pre workout with PA?

    What could I or should I take to increase fat burning and muscle building?


  2. Best Pre with Phosphidatic acid would be triumph. While not a preworkout per se, it can definitely be used pre. I generally stack the unflavored with my pre of choice for convenience

    As far as fat burning, Alpha Y or EC with fasted cardio will help. Some nonstim options are Assassinate - which is a nonstim fat burner with GDA properties.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Woody View Post
    Best Pre with Phosphidatic acid would be triumph. While not a preworkout per se, it can definitely be used pre. I generally stack the unflavored with my pre of choice for convenience

    As far as fat burning, Alpha Y or EC with fasted cardio will help. Some nonstim options are Assassinate - which is a nonstim fat burner with GDA properties.
    Could I build a stack around Olympus Labs and do just fine? Tr1upm/Conqu3r for the pre workout and what is the difference between all of OL's fat burners?

    Is the anti-estrogen necessary?

    What's the difference between all of OL's muscle builders?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Solem View Post
    Could I build a stack around Olympus Labs and do just fine? Tr1upm/Conqu3r for the pre workout and what is the difference between all of OL's fat burners?

    Is the anti-estrogen necessary?

    What's the difference between all of OL's muscle builders?
    Agreed with @Woody on Tr1umph if you're looking for a PA product. Tr1umph is a very complete PA supplement with a handful over other goodies. You could definitely build a stack around OL if you wanted to, but I would watch your stimulant intake if you plan to stack a preworkout and high stim fatburner together.

    You might want to experiment with using Tri1umph stacked with a thermogenic product like Oxymax XT or Ignit3 as a preworkout. Chances are that the stims from the thermogenic will be enough to amp you up for the workout. You shouldn't need an anti-estrogen product at all, especially if you're just using PA and a preworkout or thermogenic.

    Another consideration to stack with Tr1umph would be Alphamax XT. Keep in mind that losing fat and building muscle simultaneously is very difficult, but Alphamax XT is a great solution if you're looking to maintain strength while dieting. It contains a solid natural test boosting profile, as well as a natural AI and ingredients to limit estrogen and cortisol levels. Alphamax XT also contains forskolin, which has been studied to improve body composition (muscle gain, fat loss)
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