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Joeeee!!!! U know who this is...keep it up bro, ull get some great feedback on here
 

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Your diet certainly looks pretty tuned. You look like you are carved from ice. Lat striations...!
All the best on your goals
 
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Dude you are absolutely Beast!
What bodyfat % did you start cutting from and how long did it take you?
How big are your arms in this Vid.
 

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Your diet certainly looks pretty tuned. You look like you are carved from ice. Lat striations...!
All the best on your goals
PAUL THANKS YEAH FOLLOWING THE IIFYM...
 

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Dude you are absolutely Beast!
What bodyfat % did you start cutting from and how long did it take you?
How big are your arms in this Vid.
THANKS I STARTING TO CUT AT LIKE 13 I WOULD SAY..MY ARMS ARE NOT THAT BIG :)
 

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You say you're all natural? How long have you been cutting for, how long have you been training and how old are you?
 

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I'm gonna get flack from people for this but I'm not sure you're natural. Wow for going from 13 percent bodyfat at 2300 calories a day to 4 percent you sure kept a **** load of mass lol. All that vascularity as well, believe me getting to that low percent of bodyfat would have you extremely weak as a natural lifter even with a refeed your body would go into starvation mode and start taking pounds away from your muscle. not to mention you're actually competing so the chances of you not being natural increase even more. Many bodybuilders begin stalling out when they hit the 8 percent bf range but you keep going down. I'm just not sure at this point. I mean look at Flex Wheeler now he's all natural and you look better then be does lol. If you're natural then oh well just take this as a compliment. So many people lie these days its hard to tell
 
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I know this guy pretty well personally and I'm pretty damn sure he's all natural, he is extremely regimented and sticks to his diet and training.....and is pushing harder in the gym now
 

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Marty thanks..... guys I am as Natural as they come....not even andro when it was legal.....im what you call 100% NATTY
 
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Me needs test results as proof! :D

I'm amazed if you truly are.
 

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awsome man !!
look huge!!
what exersices are u doing for your legs ?
and what routine are u doing ?
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With that vascularity it is obvious you're not natural but you look beastly and definetly hard work and dedication but a shame you compete in a natural comp
 

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To the critiques unless you have managed to drop the fat to this level i suggest you keep quiet otherwise your basing your assumptions on **** all and hear say.

To the OP you look amazing, keep it up.
 

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So you went from 153 to 152.3 and gained mass? You look bigger and more vascular than you did in the first video. After 13 yrs of training gaining lean mass becomes that much harder. But you're claiming to be natural? Quit lying to everyone dude. You're trying to help natty lifters but you aren't helping them at all. At you're age plus 13 yrs of training you are not building muscle and losing fat without hormonal help
 
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So you went from 153 to 152.3 and gained mass? You look bigger and more vascular than you did in the first video. After 13 yrs of training gaining lean mass becomes that much harder. But you're claiming to be natural? Quit lying to everyone dude. You're trying to help natty lifters but you aren't helping them at all. At you're age plus 13 yrs of training you are not building muscle and losing fat without hormonal help
Dude is disiplined none the less. Even if he wasn't natty it takes work to do what he's done

But his metabolic capacity must be through the roof making his mps high and caloric expenditure high with his high protein heavy ass lifting and proper supplementation it's possible.

There's a coach skip. He routinely recomps his clients to this nature
 

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So you went from 153 to 152.3 and gained mass? You look bigger and more vascular than you did in the first video. After 13 yrs of training gaining lean mass becomes that much harder. But you're claiming to be natural? Quit lying to everyone dude. You're trying to help natty lifters but you aren't helping them at all. At you're age plus 13 yrs of training you are not building muscle and losing fat without hormonal help
I agree.It is hard to that natty. If he is for real more power to him.
 

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Dude is disiplined none the less. Even if he wasn't natty it takes work to do what he's done

But his metabolic capacity must be through the roof making his mps high and caloric expenditure high with his high protein heavy ass lifting and proper supplementation it's possible.

There's a coach skip. He routinely recomps his clients to this nature
Ok...but he's competing in a natural bodybuilding show. He would never admit it if he was juicing. I did however watch the video where he talks about his supplementation. He said multi vitamin, BCAA's and protein. Now come man! He's taking SOMETHING ELSE to get that ripped and in his one video he's eating ****ing cocoa puffs and shyt. No training vids, no diet vids nothing just shots of his body. I don't for a second believe this crap. I remember talking to Kris gethin on Facebook. He told me he's gone from 200 lbs to 205 in a very lengthy amount of time so there's no way he can be juicing. Now if you see Kris gethins starting pics it becomes pretty ****ing obvious. Not to mention there are plenty of drugs that aren't even steroids that get the job done but I'm so sick of this bullshyt. People get off telling others they're natty when they're not. Walk around like they're the shyt when they're nothing but a fraud
 

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I know a guy about same height and weight that is naturally lean like 6% -8% bf years around. However, this guy I know has a very hard time puting on muscle....he can stay lean but def hard to put on muscle he even told me that. He doesnt juice as per injectibles, but he takes anything that would boost test that he can find legally and help him get preped for a show.
Now like you said he may not juice per say but there are plenty of other stuff there that will help with the prep. Now this guy I know does natty shows too....is he natty or not I guess it all depends what compounds he takes. If these compounds alter your system in any way then I'd say he is not natty anymore.
 

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I turned natural pro !!!!
 
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You mean you won a pro card?
 

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Lol! A lot of jealousy on this thread. Dude is 150lbs and people are accusing him of steroids. Looks like the guy was detailed and put the effort in and it paid off. Congrats!
 

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Lol! A lot of jealousy on this thread. Dude is 150lbs and people are accusing him of steroids. Looks like the guy was detailed and put the effort in and it paid off. Congrats!
Please show me the videos with detail because I saw none. His videos are more for entertainment. None are educational
 
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