What fat-containing foods are not off limits with X-Factor?
- 09-15-2007, 10:28 AM
What fat-containing foods are not off limits with X-Factor?
Is Olive Oil okay? How about a lot of red meat? Tuna in moderation (maybe 1 can, every other day)?
A list of fat-containing foods that are "compatible" with X-Factor might be a really beneficial thing to list for those who are on the fence with this product. As meso-endo body type, I keep fat pretty high in my diet. I understand that EFAs are discouraged while using X-Factor, but what about other fats?
I'd like to try this product, as it is non-hormonal, yet is supposedly able to deliver 5-10 lbs of LBM with proper training and diet. I am sure that my training will be "proper" but I am concerned about the X-Factor diet.
- 09-15-2007, 11:54 AM
A Fat That BURNS Fat?
By Justin Harris
For EliteFTS - Powerlifting and Strength Training Products and Knowledge for Lifters, Athletes, Coaches, and Trainers
Many forms of fat are “healthy.” Omega 3 fatty acids have been shown to decrease inflammation and benefit circulatory system health. Omega 6 fatty acids are actually “inflammatory” fatty acids, which work to increase the pro-inflammatory leukotriene, LTB4. LTB4 augments the production of interleukin 1, which is called the endogenous pyrogen, and establishes the temperature set point of the body. An increase in the temperature set point will cause a subsequent increase in the metabolic rate.
The types of omega 6 fatty acids are linoleic acid, eicosadienoic acid, dihomo-gamma-linolenic acid, arachidonic acid, adrenic acid, docosapentaenoic acid, calendic acid, and gamma-linolenic acid. In this article, we will focus on the latter, gamma-linolenic acid.
Gamma-linolenic acid (GLA) is an essential fatty acid (EFA) in the omega-6 family that is found primarily in plant-based oils. EFAs must be obtained from food because they can’t be formed by the body in the way that nonessential fatty acids are. They are needed for normal brain function, growth and development, and bone health. They also stimulate skin and hair growth, regulate metabolism, and maintain the body’s reproductive processes.
Those who are overweight have an under-active fat known as brown adipose tissue (BAT). BAT is a type of fatty acid found in hibernating animals, and its primary purpose is to generate body heat. The method by which it does this is called metabolic uncoupling. It causes an uncoupling of oxidative phosphorylation by carrying protons into the mitochondria across the cell membrane. Oxidative phosphorylation is a very potent method of storing energy that is much more effective than any other method in the body. When the proton enters the mitochondria, it changes the pH levels inside the mitochondria causing it to release its energy as heat instead of usable adenosine 5’-triphosphate (ATP).
GLA’s method of action in the body is quite unique because it has the potential to actually burn fat in the body. Its action on BAT is potentially its most exciting method of energy usage. It activates BAT, and in turn, burns calories. GLA also activates the ATPase metabolic process, commonly referred to as the “sodium pump,” and stimulates it to use up nearly 50 percent of the body’s total calories. Some studies have shown a relationship between obesity and low levels of GLA in the body. Indirectly, GLA also has the potential to raise serotonin levels, which can reduce appetite.
Another type of metabolic uncoupler is the highly effective and highly dangerous 2,4 dinitrophenol, known on the “street” as DNP. Knowing that a legal, nonlethal, and readily available DNP type product is available should have all of us salivating at the mouth...and highly interested in this exciting method of fat burning where we are actually using fat to burn fat.
Now, all of this information is essentially useless if you don’t know where to find concentrated forms of GLA. Lucky for us, GLA is found in many fatty acid products that are available at any nutrition store. Two fat sources in particular—evening primrose oil and borage oil—both contain high levels of GLA. Of the two, borage oil is more potent.
My nutritionists and I at troponinutrition.com recommend adding a small dosage of borage oil (1–3 g) to each meal on low and medium carbohydrate days to our clients. This borage oil is added to a mixture of essential fatty acids that we use to provide as much metabolic and health-boosting nutrients as possible during contest preparations and other times of body fat loss.
- 09-16-2007, 07:53 PM
You CAN eat:
Peanuts, extra virgin coconut oil, MCT's, tons of steak, and tons of eggs!
You should avoid/eat in moderation:
Olive oil, Omega 3, flax
This is a small list, I'll try to fetch something for ya. But tuna is 100% fine as there are virtually no EFA's in this. In water of course.
09-16-2007, 08:28 PM
09-17-2007, 03:18 PM
09-21-2007, 05:25 PM
I am going to start a X-factor cycle and have some doubts about using the next supp's:
Due to shoulder problems I use daily the next:
3 grams flax oil caps
3 to 4 grams cissus
before workout > Emuoil+glucosa creme
animal flex is:
Serving Size: 1 Pack
Servings per Container: 44
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Calories from fat 9
Total Fat 1g <2%*
Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid) 100mg 167%
Vitamin E (as d-alpha tocopherol) 100mg 333%
Zinc (as zinc picolinate) 15mg 100%
Selenium (as sodium selenite) 70mcg 100%
Manganese (as manganese sulfate) 1mg 50%
Joint Construction Complex 3000mg **
Glucosamine (as HCL, sulfate KCL)
Chondroitin Sulfate A (CSA)
Chondroitin Sulfate B (CSB)
Joint Lubrication Complex 1000mg **
Flaxseed Oil (50% alpha linolenic acid)
Cetyl Myristoleate, Cetyl Myristate, Cetyl Palmitate, Cetyl Laurate, Cetyl Palmitoleate, Cetyl Oleate)
Joint Support Complex 1000mg **
Ginger Root Extract (gingerols, shogaols)
Turmeric Extract (circumin)
Boswellia (boswellic acid)
Which of the above should be cut of the stack? If reducing is ok, how much would be the max dose per day ?
Thx in advance
09-22-2007, 10:26 AM
Allright, Animal Flex has flax oil in it, so I would skip it, and skip the flax as well, I ain't sure about the emu oil though. I would skip this one too. Cissus looks okay though. And don't worry bout joint issues there, cissus will take care of it.
09-22-2007, 11:54 AM
Eggs + XF = Awesome.
NSCA-CSCS and CPT
Currently Pursuing a Doctor of Physical Therapy Degree
09-22-2007, 02:28 PM
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09-22-2007, 02:57 PM
the animal flex can't have all that much flax oil in it, it has to be under a gram. that formula is actually interesting when not being on x-factor. I wish I knew how much Hyaluronic Acid was in it.
The more I try to learn about x-factor, the more I get other serendipitous learning.
Is Borage Oil or GLA any of the others mentioned below as Omega 6s ok to take with x-factor?
09-22-2007, 03:39 PM
I would pass on the borage
For the GLA, I would wait until we get more feedback:
Although GLA is an ω-6 fatty acid (which are generally pro-inflammatory) it has anti-inflammatory properties.
09-22-2007, 06:26 PM
09-22-2007, 06:41 PM
09-22-2007, 06:54 PM
I do not think you should use a product like X-factor with your knee. There are many other options without risking more damage.
You can also use glucosa creme (VPX)..it really helps (me).
09-22-2007, 06:56 PM
actually the joints dont really bother me, thats the funny part. between regular grade doses of cissus and something like 4.5g of glucosamine, 3 g chondroiting, and some amount of MSM, I don't notice it. Cissus probably helps more than the glucosamine
09-22-2007, 06:57 PM
and also since the pain is very localized in that case, I can use a topical and not interfere with muscle growth. even just ben gay worked pretty well. I think that dr was just a d!ck
09-22-2007, 07:26 PM
09-22-2007, 07:31 PM
no, its never been bad enough that I cared. He has such a sh!tty manner I was just glad to leave. He also said "One thing I could do is break both your legs and re-set them so that instead of being slightly bowlegged they were straighter, that would buy you a couple extra years". Its almost 15 years now, and its no worse now than it was then. Light aches if I am stuck standing still long periods of time. thats about it. The whole incident with seeing him was related to a back muscle pull. They started doing xrays and ended up doing whole body for some reason. and there wasn't a whole lot of cartillage on the inside side of my kness.
I have shiba inus for dogs, and when they escape the yard I can run them down, and i'm more likely to end up with hamstring cramps than knee pain. Squats, leg presses, etc are limited by my muscles, not by my knees. Thank god really.
09-23-2007, 05:26 PM
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09-24-2007, 04:37 AM
09-24-2007, 06:06 AM
its entertaining, and was worthwhile. Pack dynamics in larger groups are fun to watch. In total, in close friends + family (including ours) now there are 8 or so shibas. its fun just to take my 3 to visit any of the others and watch
09-24-2007, 12:39 PM
09-28-2007, 06:45 AM
just looking at what i'm doing between now + xfactor, is it basically impossible to do a CKD or TKD while on xfactor? Since basically only around 700-800 cal a day would come from protein, with the limited selection of possible "safe" fats (I can't count bacon fat as desireable ) I don't think I could hit 1400 cal with just coconut oils. I'm looking specifically at lyle mcdonald's CKD + TKD
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