Is CLA ok with X-Factor?
- 05-09-2007, 03:00 AM
- 05-10-2007, 09:39 PM
Also you can keep the fish oil just make sure it's low dosed (1-3grams top)
Personally I'd run the X-Factor + (Stim Fat burner or TTA or Dicana or Thytrotabs)
Then afterwards use the Sesamin/CLA/Fish Oil stack
- 05-11-2007, 10:09 AM
05-11-2007, 08:45 PM
05-16-2007, 04:59 PM
05-17-2007, 02:08 AM
Dan is a smart man, I would run a XF with some Activate, Melting Point (DCP seems ideal, but i read it might hinder AA?) and Thyrotabs.
Since I cant run that, I will be running a XF, HLG, Melting point and TT
05-17-2007, 11:47 AM
05-17-2007, 04:26 PM
05-24-2007, 02:31 AM
05-29-2007, 11:09 AM
05-29-2007, 03:05 PM
sorry I didn't respond sooner, I am just starting week 3 of xf and havoc, currently at 40mg/ED (am, noon, 2 prew in evening), and 1250mg of xf (am, pm, 2prew, bedtime).
This is my first cycle, didnt know what to expect. During the day I feel hard and slightly pumped, vascularity is up. I am leaning out very nicely and muscle mass is going up, I have gained a solid pound in each of the last two weeks and getting cuts in places I didn't even know existed. My recovery is very good, considering I started DC last week and doing 4 workouts a week instead of three. RPM adds a nice preworkout boost, as I don't really FEEL xf and havoc at workout time beyond what Xceed and RPM provides (but the results I definitely feel, I think I know what back pumps finally means).
I opted for the stacking as there seemed to a real synergy on paper in respect to AR stimulation. I havent hit the xf DOMS, but since I am doing DC not sure if I will or if I will know its from xf or DC. I am going to run both for 4 more weeks, upping havoc to 50mg the last couple of weeks so that I finish the bottles.
part I hate about my first cycle is I keep rethinking my PeeCeeTee, trying to avoid the kitchen sink mentality, but dont want to underestimate effects of havoc. So far libido is great and the boys feel the same.
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