If you had...
- 04-17-2007, 06:37 PM
- 04-17-2007, 09:15 PM
1) Militech Fighting
2) Team Quest
3) Greg Jackson's camp in New Mexico
I like how Tito trains too, but he's a **** and doesnt have enough fighters in his camp.
- 04-17-2007, 09:44 PM
04-17-2007, 11:39 PM
yeah, Norris' list is pretty good as well as ATT. Team Quest would probably be the most popular choice right now after Hendo's win, Sok's wins, and former Quester Randy taking the belt back.....and let's not forget the Hermanator.
04-17-2007, 11:42 PM
04-17-2007, 11:54 PM
04-17-2007, 11:56 PM
Which Team Quest? The primary ones are in Oregon and Cali. Not sure if Randy is still associated with Team Quest or where he primarily trains out of.
04-17-2007, 11:58 PM
04-18-2007, 01:07 AM
04-18-2007, 02:28 AM
04-18-2007, 02:35 AM
Wherever Charles 'Krazy Horse' Bennett trains. And Jas, don't you dare call Sokoudjou 'Sok', I will mongolian chop you into next week in the name of #39.
04-18-2007, 12:44 PM
ATT is one class-act organization with some great fighters. But I have to go with the guy who ran my academy, and who gave Ricardo Liborio his BJJ black belt.....Carlson Gracie Academy. Well at least it is still run by Carlson Jr. and Jeff Neal.
04-18-2007, 01:16 PM
04-18-2007, 07:57 PM
My first choice would be Team Quest, but i really like the way Tito trained his guys on TUF for that season.
04-18-2007, 11:12 PM
Seems like Tito's methods would easily lead to overtraining. Some people can probably do it, but I bet Tito's camp is bad for a lot of people.
I have no idea what camp I would choose, but I'd like to train MT with Rob Kaman. Chute Boxe in the US might be interesting, but we've yet to see what sort of quality is going on there.
04-19-2007, 12:50 AM
I think having a stable full of champions and dominant fighters to sparr with and train against every day would be an incredible. Thats why I would go with Militich. I know a lot of people hate on Hughes, UFC heavyweights and corn field hicks, but wtf else you going to do in Iowa. It would be a great place to train.
And of course they have a proven record of producing champions and great fighters for years. Jens Pulver, Robbie Lawler, Matt Hughes, Spencer Fisher, Tim Sylvia and they have great IFL fighters like Ben Rothwell. They train good wrestlers, strikers, and submission fighters. If I was 205, I wouldnt train with them due to the lack of LHW's in their camp, but if you are 170-185 I think they have the best camp. Anyways I dont train MMA so WTF do I know.
to Savage, Minnesota represent! Minnesota Martial Arts = MMA
04-19-2007, 01:01 AM
04-19-2007, 02:00 AM
04-19-2007, 02:05 AM
79-15 -5 record isnt dominant? Whats your definition of dominant? winning 100% of your fights. And Lawler is a dominant badass. KTFO Trigg is a dominant fighter. So what these guys havent won Pride/UFC championships. They are proven fighters with great records. Just because the San Diego Chargers didnt win the superbowl, 14-2 record in the makes them dominant. And to not look at Tim Silvia, and his 23 - 3 record and call him anything but a great dominant fighter is just ignorant. With your standards, you could probably argue Fedor is "slightly dominant".
Militich is not over rated, maybe over hyped by Goldberg. They are one of the best camps without a doubt in the U.S. And Their IFL team has some great fighters too. Miletich Silverbacks
04-19-2007, 01:42 PM
Saying Sylvia is dominant is hilarious. He may have been UFC champ, but their HW division was crap. It is like being the valedictorian of summer school, is that a prestigious award?
Lawler, as much as I like to watch him fight, cannot hang with the elite MW in the world. Hendo, Lindland, Silva, Franklin, Kang, Okami could all beat him. He is a top-10 fighter, but not a dominant fighter.
04-19-2007, 02:03 PM
Going 23-3 against the even the 2nd best HW division is dominant. Im not saying he's the worlds greatest fighter, and apparently you think thats what dominant means. Dominant according to the dictionary is "occupying or being in a commanding or elevated position." So what, the Chicago Bears won in the ****ty NFC, Id call them dominant to matter who their competition was. They sure werent the best, and there were prob 5 better teams than them, but they still beat a large majority of their opponents and were dominant.
04-19-2007, 02:15 PM
04-19-2007, 02:39 PM
Sylvia has 2 impressive wins - the second AA fight and against Ricco. Everything else was either filler or Sylvia fighting for a decision.
04-19-2007, 10:12 PM
but yeah, Tim Sylvia hasnt really been "tested" in his career, and i dont think he was ever fit to be champ, it was just the state that the HW division was in the UFC.
now that theyve got some very impressive fighters, and Sylvia is coming off of a loss, we'll see what hes really capable of.
most of the Militech fighters IMO turn into lay and pray counter punchers once they become champions, and Tim Sylvia is the worst one for it, the only way he uses his size is to keep people away, and not really push the fight, but now that he has to push the pace to win he will probably be more impressive than he has been (hopefully).
04-20-2007, 12:16 AM
The only dominant fighter in MMA is Fedor, end of discussion. People ridiculously claimed GSP was in this category but Serra has proven otherwise. And a handful of other seemingly dominant fighters have also been fallen thus in my mind making Fedor the only dominant fighter today.
04-20-2007, 01:23 AM
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04-20-2007, 01:41 AM
04-20-2007, 01:50 AM
04-20-2007, 06:36 PM
Team quest for sure. I think training with Pat can make you a great fighter, that's been proven. I think ultimately though there is more diverse and well rounded skill available with team quest.
In reality though I think the top teams are Chute Boxe and BTT, it just depends on what kind of a fit your style is. I'm sure training with Fedor would be the experience of a lifetime too, but that's different.
04-20-2007, 09:53 PM
I think it depends on what you want to focus on. For MT in MMA, if I could train anywhere, I guess it would be Chute Boxe, or maybe with Anderson Silva (Muay Thai Dream Team) I think. I love Silva's style, and especially his footwork. I'd also want to train BJJ at BTT.
04-21-2007, 10:58 AM
Yeah training Brasil would be awsome. But both those schools are so commercia; just like Gracie Barra for jits. Theres a extreme gringo tax on what you pay a month. Sometime even more then what you pay in the states.
04-21-2007, 03:50 PM
I doubt I'd ever get to go there, but my instructor trained there before moving to the U.S. He still trains with them a few times per year, so maybe he'd be able to hook it up.
04-21-2007, 05:38 PM
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