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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Godstrength View Post
    I never said he was competition lol just that Mayweather executed his plan. I had mayweather to tko him earlier like 5 or 6. I think w 8oz gloves mayweather knew to stay clear of Connors possible knockout power until it was safe. Once he was tired he went in. Just imagine if with 1 punch old Floyd is 49-1 and loss to a UFC fighter. He hadn't fought for 2 years and is 40 lol. Floyd fought a smart safe fight and delivered just what he said he would which was stopping him. I mean c'mon bro, its not like Connor can't throw a punch, your acting as if he had no experience fighting because he's not a boxer.

    the only argument I've made is the fact that Conor had no chance, not then, not now....that's it...and that Floyd literally went sleep walk mode in the 1st 3 rds, and still won them on 2/3 judges cards...Floyd never had to prepare for this fight...never needed a gameplan...the inevitable was gonna happen regardless...Conor would tire, and Floyd would K.O....the fact Floyd allowed Conor to even give a hint of chance was Floyd's own doing, and reason why he has continued repeating before and after the fight that he would make sure the fans were entertained...real simple concept.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Yomo View Post
    the only argument I've made is the fact that Conor had no chance, not then, not now....that's it...and that Floyd literally went sleep walk mode in the 1st 3 rds, and still won them on 2/3 judges cards...Floyd never had to prepare for this fight...never needed a gameplan...the inevitable was gonna happen regardless...Conor would tire, and Floyd would K.O....the fact Floyd allowed Conor to even give a hint of chance was Floyd's own doing, and reason why he has continued repeating before and after the fight that he would make sure the fans were entertained...real simple concept.
    Ok yeah he didn't train, he didn't prepare he just went in there and did a show for everybody lol

    I think you've watched the Great White Hype too many times w Damon wayans
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Godstrength View Post
    Ok yeah he didn't train, he didn't prepare he just went in there and did a show for everybody lol
    What the hell are you talking about? I said he did not need to prepare for Conor, not that he never did.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Yomo View Post
    the only argument I've made is the fact that Conor had no chance, not then, not now....that's it...and that Floyd literally went sleep walk mode in the 1st 3 rds, and still won them on 2/3 judges cards...Floyd never had to prepare for this fight...never needed a gameplan...the inevitable was gonna happen regardless...Conor would tire, and Floyd would K.O....the fact Floyd allowed Conor to even give a hint of chance was Floyd's own doing, and reason why he has continued repeating before and after the fight that he would make sure the fans were entertained...real simple concept.
    Sleep mode? You're crazy dude. He wasn't in sleep mode, and it was obvious he'd never been harassed so much before. He was getting a little scared/pissed. I don't know why you're taking such a ridiculous stance because it very much was a decent fight for the first couple of rounds.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Godstrength View Post
    I never said he was competition lol just that Mayweather executed his plan. I had mayweather to tko him earlier like 5 or 6. I think w 8oz gloves mayweather knew to stay clear of Connors possible knockout power until it was safe. Once he was tired he went in. Just imagine if with 1 punch old Floyd is 49-1 and loss to a UFC fighter. He hadn't fought for 2 years and is 40 lol. Floyd fought a smart safe fight and delivered just what he said he would which was stopping him. I mean c'mon bro, its not like Connor can't throw a punch, your acting as if he had no experience fighting because he's not a boxer.
    Godstrength.. am a mma practitioner and I've boxed with a few amateurs. The movement and fluidity is way different between the 2 sports. And yes its true that anyone can knock out anybody with 1 punch but guess what if floyd can dodge pacquiao just 2 yrs ago (who in my opinion has way more power in his punches than McG) then he can certainly dodge/absorb McG punches. Everybody keeps throwing the "40yr old" line but again if floyd can beat manny pacquiao at 38 then he very well can beat a 0-0 boxer even at 40. The story of floyd took him to the deep waters is another load of BS because mma endurance is way tougher than boxing endurance.. dont believe me?? for 5 mins just try hopping and throwing a few punches every now and then for the same 5 mins throw some punches, hop, kicks, bodyslam, sprawls/burpees..etc you'll get your answer.

    anyways not trying to pick an argument with you here as thats exactly what these 2 guys capitalized on.. the normal public is going to be torn between what if's and why not's.. and that results in finding out (pay per view) = $$$$
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  6. MayWeather or McGregor


    Quote Originally Posted by Yomo View Post
    the only argument I've made is the fact that Conor had no chance, not then, not now....that's it...and that Floyd literally went sleep walk mode in the 1st 3 rds, and still won them on 2/3 judges cards...Floyd never had to prepare for this fight...never needed a gameplan...the inevitable was gonna happen regardless...Conor would tire, and Floyd would K.O....the fact Floyd allowed Conor to even give a hint of chance was Floyd's own doing, and reason why he has continued repeating before and after the fight that he would make sure the fans were entertained...real simple concept.
    If you think that Mayweather's primary concern was "making sure the fans were entertained" and not "doing whatever would give him the absolute best chance of winning," I don't even see a point in continuing this conversation. Have you not considered that Mayweather was hyping up the fight by saying that? It's supposedly his last fight; he's retired (again), 50-0, undefeated, and got another huge paycheck. Honestly, why would he care about "pleasing the fans" at this point? A loss here would have been a major defeat for him, his undefeated record, and his legacy; surely that was more important to him than "pleasing the fans." He wanted to win, period, and his strategy was what he felt gave him the best chance of winning, period. This plan just happened to allow for a longer fight; Mayweather didn't "take it easy on McGregor" in the early rounds, he felt him out and let him tire himself out. I do not think that Mayweather could have safely knocked McGregor out in the first few rounds even if he wanted to. Waiting was the smart thing to do, which is why he did it, NOT to "please the fans." If he can claim that's why he did it, then all the better for him though. Again, it's smart.
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  7. MayWeather or McGregor


    Quote Originally Posted by muree View Post
    Godstrength.. am a mma practitioner and I've boxed with a few amateurs. The movement and fluidity is way different between the 2 sports. And yes its true that anyone can knock out anybody with 1 punch but guess what if floyd can dodge pacquiao just 2 yrs ago (who in my opinion has way more power in his punches than McG) then he can certainly dodge/absorb McG punches. Everybody keeps throwing the "40yr old" line but again if floyd can beat manny pacquiao at 38 then he very well can beat a 0-0 boxer even at 40. The story of floyd took him to the deep waters is another load of BS because mma endurance is way tougher than boxing endurance.. dont believe me?? for 5 mins just try hopping and throwing a few punches every now and then for the same 5 mins throw some punches, hop, kicks, bodyslam, sprawls/burpees..etc you'll get your answer.

    anyways not trying to pick an argument with you here as thats exactly what these 2 guys capitalized on.. the normal public is going to be torn between what if's and why not's.. and that results in finding out (pay per view) = $$$$
    You mean to tell me that McGregor wasn't tired/exhausted after several rounds? He was visibly tired, and Mayweather capitalized on it. He punched himself tired. He's just not used to boxing into later rounds, it's not purely "cardio," but the amount of punches he's thrown; boxing is just different than MMA. I honestly don't think think that either of them could have reasonably knocked the other out in the first few rounds. Mayweather was smart not to try though, and was clearly the better boxer.
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  8. I agree with everything you said and we dont have to waste our time online. lets move on.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    If you think that Mayweather's primary concern was "making sure the fans were entertained" and not "doing whatever would give him the absolute best chance of winning," I don't even see a point in continuing this conversation. Have you not considered that Mayweather was hyping up the fight by saying that? It's supposedly his last fight; he's retired (again), 50-0, undefeated, and got another huge paycheck. Honestly, why would he care about "pleasing the fans" at this point? A loss here would have been a major defeat for him, his undefeated record, and his legacy; surely that was more important to him than "pleasing the fans." He wanted to win, period, and his strategy was what he felt gave him the best chance of winning, period. This plan just happened to allow for a longer fight; Mayweather didn't "take it easy on McGregor" in the early rounds, he felt him out and let him tire himself out. I do not think that Mayweather could have safely knocked McGregor out in the first few rounds even if he wanted to. Waiting was the smart thing to do, which is why he did it, NOT to "please the fans." If he can claim that's why he did it, then all the better for him though. Again, it's smart.
    The entire reason for the fight was fan entertainment...the fake hype and trash talk before should have made it fairly obvious...
    This plan you speak of wasn't put into play specifically for Conor...It's literally Floyd's M.O....he's just used to fighting much better fighters that tire much later on...

    not sure what you don't understand, Conor didn't stand a chance and Floyd toyed with him...that has literally been my only argument...

  10. Quote Originally Posted by hanslifts View Post
    Sleep mode? You're crazy dude. He wasn't in sleep mode, and it was obvious he'd never been harassed so much before. He was getting a little scared/pissed. I don't know why you're taking such a ridiculous stance because it very much was a decent fight for the first couple of rounds.
    Decent fight? Floyd threw 6, 10, and 12 TOTAL ATTEMPTS through the first 3 rds respectively..literally defines sleep mode...and 2/3 judges still gave Floyd rds 2 and 3 for the simple fact Conor still only landed 7 more punches while attempting almost 60 more shots.
  11. MayWeather or McGregor


    Quote Originally Posted by Yomo View Post
    The entire reason for the fight was fan entertainment...the fake hype and trash talk before should have made it fairly obvious...
    This plan you speak of wasn't put into play specifically for Conor...It's literally Floyd's M.O....he's just used to fighting much better fighters that tire much later on...

    not sure what you don't understand, Conor didn't stand a chance and Floyd toyed with him...that has literally been my only argument...
    The entire reason Mayweather fought was for the money; and when the fight started, his primary goal was 50-0, not "giving the fans their money's worth or what they wanted to see." I didn't say that McGregor stood a chance, but how is being defensive and waiting for him to tire himself out "toying with him?" I don't see what you don't understand. Floyd didn't employ his strategy to "entertain the fans," he used it because he felt it was the best strategy to win. That just happened to mean a longer, more entertaining fight.
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  12. You keep insisting it was a strategy employed to win, when it was literally the script written in stone prior to the fight, not because it was some genius gameplan, but literally because no one on planet Earth can Outlast Floyd's stamina, even at 40 yrs old...if you think Floyd didn't toy with Conor and extend the fight, you have never watched him fight when his opponent actually provided reason for him to play it safe.
    The matchup was a joke...50-0 was never in doubt...Floyd now becomes only the 3rd athlete to claim a billion career earnigs.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Yomo View Post
    You keep insisting it was a strategy employed to win, when it was literally the script written in stone prior to the fight, not because it was some genius gameplan, but literally because no one on planet Earth can Outlast Floyd's stamina, even at 40 yrs old...if you think Floyd didn't toy with Conor and extend the fight, you have never watched him fight when his opponent actually provided reason for him to play it safe.
    The matchup was a joke...50-0 was never in doubt...Floyd now becomes only the 3rd athlete to claim a billion career earnigs.
    So you think Floyd could have KOd him earlier without any risk? It wasn't a "genius" gameplay, it was the obvious strategy. It was easier/safer for Floyd to wait for McGregor to get tired before going for the KO. That's not "toying with him," its smart, safe fighting, which is what Mayweather is all about. How was Floyd not playing it safe? Could he have ended the fight a round or two earlier? Maybe, but it wasn't the smartest/safest strategy, especially when he could tell Conor would be gassed soon anyway. Why not wait until that opening? Why take any level of unnecessary risk for 50-0? The outcome was pretty much a sure thing, but that doesn't mean that Mayweather would take even the least unnecessary risk. He's a safe, defensive boxer, and a damn good one. Why deviate for 50?
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  14. how do you define "toying with an opponent"? When you can literally dictate the outcome of a fight without any deviation or absence from your comfort zone, that's literally "toying with an opponent".
    The fact Floyd continued to press foward, something he never does, so often in this fight shows how much he did not respect anything Conor could have done.
    The fight itself was the safest bet for 50-0, not the "strategy" used.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Yomo View Post
    how do you define "toying with an opponent"? When you can literally dictate the outcome of a fight without any deviation or absence from your comfort zone, that's literally "toying with an opponent".
    The fact Floyd continued to press foward, something he never does, so often in this fight shows how much he did not respect anything Conor could have done.
    The fight itself was the safest bet for 50-0, not the "strategy" used.
    Fair enough, I'd say that doing something completely unnecessary and/or ill-advised (against a worthy opponent) would be "toying" with an opponent. Sticking in your comfort zone isn't toying with your opponent, it's just being better than them. By that logic if his gameplan/comfort zone was going all out in the first round for a KO, and succeeded, he toyed with his opponent? How? I can see you saying that pushing forwards could be a low-grade form of toying with him though.

    Either way, I think we can at least agree Mayweather was the better boxer. The rest is almost just semantics.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    Fair enough, I'd say that doing something completely unnecessary and/or ill-advised (against a worthy opponent) would be "toying" with an opponent. Sticking in your comfort zone isn't toying with your opponent, it's just being better than them. By that logic if his gameplan/comfort zone was going all out in the first round for a KO, and succeeded, he toyed with his opponent? How? I can see you saying that pushing forwards could be a low-grade form of toying with him though.

    Either way, I think we can at least agree Mayweather was the better boxer. The rest is almost just semantics.
    There is also a difference in fighting to try and stay in your comfort zone and/or retreating back into your comfort zone when forced out. Swinging for the fences or banking on an early knockout is not in itself a comfort zone, as much as it is a deficiency as a fighter as far as boxing is concerned.
    Pure strikers wear down fighters by utilizing volume, a method rarely yielding success and in the rare instances that it does, still does not last for much of a significant amount of time career wise by percentage of fighters using it unless your name is Tyson, Pac, etc.
    Floyd is not only the best defensive fighter of all time, but one of the best strikers all time as well from a numbers standpoint, as broken down by CompuBox.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by muree View Post
    Godstrength.. am a mma practitioner and I've boxed with a few amateurs. The movement and fluidity is way different between the 2 sports. And yes its true that anyone can knock out anybody with 1 punch but guess what if floyd can dodge pacquiao just 2 yrs ago (who in my opinion has way more power in his punches than McG) then he can certainly dodge/absorb McG punches. Everybody keeps throwing the "40yr old" line but again if floyd can beat manny pacquiao at 38 then he very well can beat a 0-0 boxer even at 40. The story of floyd took him to the deep waters is another load of BS because mma endurance is way tougher than boxing endurance.. dont believe me?? for 5 mins just try hopping and throwing a few punches every now and then for the same 5 mins throw some punches, hop, kicks, bodyslam, sprawls/burpees..etc you'll get your answer.

    anyways not trying to pick an argument with you here as thats exactly what these 2 guys capitalized on.. the normal public is going to be torn between what if's and why not's.. and that results in finding out (pay per view) = $$$$
    Pacquio was even older and his shoulder was jacked.... But I hear what your saying, and I know Floyd still had his defense. A boxers speed and mobility is the first to go w age. Power is the last thing to leave a fighter. So I never thought McGregor would beat him. I knew full well he would lose. I'm just saying he did it how he did it. He didn't drag into 10 rds.

    My bad pacquio is actually 2 years younger.
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