Rousey VS Cyborg

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by reps4jesus View Post
    Rousey always gets the takedown if she wants it, and she would want it in this fight. A chick on steroids can't stop a judo Olympian from doin her thing, once it hit the ground cyborg would be done. Because strength doesn't matter very much on the ground, believe me. I do bjj (started in striking) and its sooo different. My strength means very little and I get beat by weaker guys who are just better than me. It's funny how fighting works. It can indeed go anywhere.
    indeed, rousey has much more technic, i have trained bjj, its about pulling off your move, once shes got u locked in that armbar i dont care if you can bench 500 your about to tapp !
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by reps4jesus View Post
    Rousey always gets the takedown if she wants it, and she would want it in this fight. A chick on steroids can't stop a judo Olympian from doin her thing, once it hit the ground cyborg would be done. Because strength doesn't matter very much on the ground, believe me. I do bjj (started in striking) and its sooo different. My strength means very little and I get beat by weaker guys who are just better than me. It's funny how fighting works. It can indeed go anywhere.
    Cyborg knows how to implement her strength advantage as well. Has everyone forgotten about her success in ADCC in addition to MMA and kickboxing?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post

    Cyborg knows how to implement her strength advantage as well. Has everyone forgotten about her success in ADCC in addition to MMA and kickboxing?
    Man, any professional fighter knows how to implement their strength. Rousey may be smaller but she is NOT weak. Cyborg looks big but after the cut she would look like hell (she already does lol) and her strength would be horrible, I have made big cuts before and I know the feeling. I also know how to implement my strength and its a very small portion of the fight. As said above a 500 pound bench isn't going to get you out of rouseys armbar. She might try to muscle through rousey...and that's when you hear a SNAP.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by reps4jesus View Post
    Man, any professional fighter knows how to implement their strength. Rousey may be smaller but she is NOT weak. Cyborg looks big but after the cut she would look like hell (she already does lol) and her strength would be horrible, I have made big cuts before and I know the feeling. I also know how to implement my strength and its a very small portion of the fight. As said above a 500 pound bench isn't going to get you out of rouseys armbar. She might try to muscle through rousey...and that's when you hear a SNAP.
    Um, when the clinch is the topic at hand, strength plays a huge part in it. Again, Cyborg is not just a striker; she's a brown belt under Andre Galvao (multiple time ADCC champion) and has medaled in ADCC. To act as though Ronda will be able to automatically armbar Cyborg if it hits the mat is foolish. She had a hell of a time with Meisha, who isn't nearly as accomplished on the ground as Cyborg.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post

    Um, when the clinch is the topic at hand, strength plays a huge part in it. Again, Cyborg is not just a striker; she's a brown belt under Andre Galvao (multiple time ADCC champion) and has medaled in ADCC. To act as though Ronda will be able to automatically armbar Cyborg if it hits the mat is foolish. She had a hell of a time with Meisha, who isn't nearly as accomplished on the ground as Cyborg.
    And both of them are strong. But actually if you've ever been in the clinch is a lot of technique and timing. Also guess what shines from clinch, JUDO. That's funny, because Ronda just happens to be an Olympic bronze medalist in judo! How convenient!
    She had a hell of a time with meisha? Where we watching different fights? Lmao she BROKE her arm in the first round lol and the second fight, what did she do? She armbarred her again! So "a hell of a time" doesn't describe it accurately. Yes fights are hard, and you will get hit, but it was obviously one sided both fights.
    Anything can happen in a fight, but cyborg medaled in adcc? That cute. Ronda medaled in the Olympics for her ground game.
    Cyborg is good, but it is by NO means foolish to make an EDUCATED guess that Ronda would win.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by reps4jesus View Post
    And both of them are strong. But actually if you've ever been in the clinch is a lot of technique and timing. Also guess what shines from clinch, JUDO. That's funny, because Ronda just happens to be an Olympic bronze medalist in judo! How convenient! She had a hell of a time with meisha? Where we watching different fights? Lmao she BROKE her arm in the first round lol and the second fight, what did she do? She armbarred her again! So "a hell of a time" doesn't describe it accurately. Yes fights are hard, and you will get hit, but it was obviously one sided both fights. Anything can happen in a fight, but cyborg medaled in adcc? That cute. Ronda medaled in the Olympics for her ground game. Cyborg is good, but it is by NO means foolish to make an EDUCATED guess that Ronda would win.
    That's cute considering I've fought professionally and competed in grappling tournaments. I'm well aware of what goes on in the clinch and how body type and strength changes the game. Yes, Ronda has a medal as does Cyborg. The difference is the gi and strikes. Ronda fights with far too much emotion and gets sloppy as a result. She did have a hell of a time with Meisha the second time as she escaped multiple attempts and was the first to get Ronda beyond the first round. Truth be told, Meisha had a terrible gameplan and kept shooting sloppy doubles that were countered over and over.

    I've never said that it's foolish to pick Ronda as the champ always deserves that kind of respect. What is foolish, however, is a complete dismissal of Cyborg as just a bullish striker.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post

    That's cute considering I've fought professionally and competed in grappling tournaments. I'm well aware of what goes on in the clinch and how body type and strength changes the game. Yes, Ronda has a medal as does Cyborg. The difference is the gi and strikes. Ronda fights with far too much emotion and gets sloppy as a result. She did have a hell of a time with Meisha the second time as she escaped multiple attempts and was the first to get Ronda beyond the first round. Truth be told, Meisha had a terrible gameplan and kept shooting sloppy doubles that were countered over and over.

    I've never said that it's foolish to pick Ronda as the champ always deserves that kind of respect. What is foolish, however, is a complete dismissal of Cyborg as just a bullish striker.
    Fair enough, I have also competed in many different martial arts at a high level. Including grappling and Jiu jitsu tournaments. honestly I actually agree with you. Cyborg has talent maybe I wasn't getting that across. She does. But a huge part of her game is her strength (she tested positive for steroids) and Rondas game is manly her technique, and she is also very strong. I never dismissed cyborg as a bullish striker I am we'll aware she wins fights as I have seen many if not all of them. But Ronda's better IMO. There is no argument here, all that we can do is wait and see if it ever goes down.
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