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    What is the best form of MMA to learn first? (muay thai or BJJ)


    This may has been asked already, (sorry i am new) but i am thinking of starting one of these styles. I am leaning on the Muay Thai. My main concern is losing muscle. Opinions?

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    id do muy thai cuz its either kick ass or get your ass kicked. or greco roman wrestling. just pick one that sounds appealing to you, its a hobby so do one you like
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderHumper View Post
    id do muy thai cuz its either kick ass or get your ass kicked. or greco roman wrestling. just pick one that sounds appealing to you, its a hobby so do one you like
    First off, love the user name man! And, thanks for the solid advice. I just am concerned with losing muscle but it probably will not happen depending on how i eat!
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    Neither. Wrestling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Neither. Wrestling.
    This.

    I enjoyed MT while I did it (was not fond of BJJ) but to this day I regret not wrestling in my offseason from football.
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    Jiu Jitsi + wrestling.
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    From my experience in the world of Mixed Martial Arts; boxing and wrestling are the go to due to what each teaches you. I myself don't have much training in wrestling just BJJ and Judo. Striking martial arts depends on your build.
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    Muay thai has been suggested by most! I am suprised
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    It just depends on the gym you decide to train at and your reach. But if you find a martial art that strikes interest I say do it. Striking is just a preference.
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    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by B3ast View Post
    Muay thai has been suggested by most! I am suprised
    One guy suggested it? Lol. Pick one then join a gym or dojo that specializes in whatever you pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Neither. Wrestling.
    The Gracies would disagree..lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    The Gracies would disagree..lol
    20 years ago. Times have changed and modern MMA is dominated by wrestling. Even BJJ has deep roots in catch wrestling, which preceded the Gracies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    20 years ago. Times have changed and modern MMA is dominated by wrestling. Even BJJ has deep roots in catch wrestling, which preceded the Gracies.
    I agree and know you're right... But 20 years ago is when I was awed by what I was seeing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    I agree and know you're right... But 20 years ago is when I was awed by what I was seeing...
    We all were. Rorion's live-action infomercial changed martial arts forever.
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    I would rather see someone get submitted with a Nice arm bar or a rear naked choked, then be held down the whole fight and getting hit with sloppy punches..
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    I feel that wrestling is a great base to have, I also feel Bjj is a great add on. Striking is great but if you don't have a solid ground game you won't have much success.
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    ^^^^agreed!! Need to know what your doing on the floor unless you have dynamite in your hands!!
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    Wrestling and Jiu Jitsu are great. I always thought striking would be more useful but the last 2 real fights I've been in my grappling skills have been extremely useful to the point where I don't even have to worry about being hit. once you take an untrained person to the ground you can have your way with them. Keep in mind both of these incidents were self defense, I don't go around starting fights for no reason.
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    I actually went through the top mma fighters on Wikipedia once and looked at their backgrounds. Muay Thai, BJJ and wrestling were represented with about equal proportion. So whichever of these you pick, you're probably solid.
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    Just look at the champions in the sport there all wrestlers that's the best base to have to build your skills on!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayssen View Post
    Just look at the champions in the sport there all wrestlers that's the best base to have to build your skills on!
    DJ
    Barao
    Aldo
    Pettis
    GSP
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    Cain

    3 of them are not wrestlers and GSP did not enter MMA with a wrestling background.
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    Okay two I guess aren't true wrestlers but Cruz is still the real belt holder so Barao don't count yet even tho I think he will dominate Cruz and gsp is good bc of wrestling don't matter if he didn't start it first that's what he had to turn to to be dominant like he is .
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    If you are young I would definitely say wrestling to start. If you can take someone down and stop a takedown you control where the fight is. Great wrestling CAN nullify BJJ, but definitely look into some form of ground game. Then fight a form of striking you enjoy. Best to have strikes to set up takedowns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    I agree and know you're right... But 20 years ago is when I was awed by what I was seeing...
    A wrestler would have trouble in the streets with real ju jitsu or Valtudo fighter MT as well you can do some damage but the out come would number 1 a wrestler can't fight on their backs ju jitsu is comfortable top or bottom MT real good on stand up but ain't prepared for the ground at all I am not just running my mouth Bro's Im seven going on eight years in ju jitsu Black belt for two years it's all on who you train with for combat results
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    I found that Muay Thai was the best for me because it stressed a high level of overall conditioning and fitness. I thought I was in great shape from endurance events and other sports I do, but the intensity and burst conditioning needed was an eye opener. Plus, if there is anyway to stop something from ever going to the ground, then that is the way to go. I enjoy Jui Jitsu, and it is a great form because it negates strength and size many times, but I only do it to know what to do if I was ever to be on the ground or wanted to avoid hitting someone.
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    Thai Boxing is very effective one of the best stand up game ever showed sweeps and kicks elbows are very punishing blows but ! you have to come in to land something good that's when ju jitsu baits another fighting art in with no clue how to defend the attack no if there was no way to grapple with the Thai boxer ju jitsu would be in trouble but I highly doubt that It would go like that Bro
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    Muay thai, a fight starts standing up, not on your knees
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie612 View Post
    Thai Boxing is very effective one of the best stand up game ever showed sweeps and kicks elbows are very punishing blows but ! you have to come in to land something good that's when ju jitsu baits another fighting art in with no clue how to defend the attack no if there was no way to grapple with the Thai boxer ju jitsu would be in trouble but I highly doubt that It would go like that Bro
    Brotha, I read this 3 times throwing commas and periods where I thought they should be and still came up short. I am not discounting any martial art or form of self defense, just saying what works best for me. My 5 year old daughter practices tang su do at a green belt level and spars with brown belts, so I see what any discipline can teach- because if she was 75 lbs heavier, she could kick my ass.

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    Actually I'd say a hybrid of muay thai and American boxing. Since traditional muay thai lacks good boxing.
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    That's all good Bro no one never said mine is better I gave both arts props you train whatever you feel comfortable doing we was talking about what happens if it go's to the ground and this other brother talking about a fighter starts on his knee's lol where they do that at ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie612 View Post
    That's all good Bro no one never said mine is better I gave both arts props you train whatever you feel comfortable doing we was talking about what happens if it go's to the ground and this other brother talking about a fighter starts on his knee's lol where they do that at ???
    Can you read? I said a fight starts standing up. NOT on your knees. I was doing MMA/Catch wrestling/ muay Thai and boxing before it was the cool thing to do. With 18 years under my belt I think I know enough about fighting.
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    Who said you don't know about the fight game ? I said I don't know what you mean by the fight start on your feet not the knee's don't no fight start on their knee's that sound funny to me that's good you got some training in we all should I did six years boxing seven going on eight years of Ju-jitsu Bro I know this fight game as well
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    Haha which Gracie was it that said ,

    "first time you get hit you become a brown belt, the second time a purple belt.."

    Oh and greco starts on your knees and on your feet.
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    In tournaments they do that Bro not in combat
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