What is the best form of MMA to learn first? (muay thai or BJJ)

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  1. Actually I'd say a hybrid of muay thai and American boxing. Since traditional muay thai lacks good boxing.
    "No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training...what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable." - Socrates


  2. That's all good Bro no one never said mine is better I gave both arts props you train whatever you feel comfortable doing we was talking about what happens if it go's to the ground and this other brother talking about a fighter starts on his knee's lol where they do that at ???
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Goldie612 View Post
    That's all good Bro no one never said mine is better I gave both arts props you train whatever you feel comfortable doing we was talking about what happens if it go's to the ground and this other brother talking about a fighter starts on his knee's lol where they do that at ???
    Can you read? I said a fight starts standing up. NOT on your knees. I was doing MMA/Catch wrestling/ muay Thai and boxing before it was the cool thing to do. With 18 years under my belt I think I know enough about fighting.
    "No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training...what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable." - Socrates

  4. Who said you don't know about the fight game ? I said I don't know what you mean by the fight start on your feet not the knee's don't no fight start on their knee's that sound funny to me that's good you got some training in we all should I did six years boxing seven going on eight years of Ju-jitsu Bro I know this fight game as well

  5. Oh yeah?! Well I can piss at least 3 yards in front of me!
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  6. Hey Goldie, they make punctuation keys on the keyboard. I see you found the question mark, but there are some more.

  7. lol half sleep

  8. Haha which Gracie was it that said ,

    "first time you get hit you become a brown belt, the second time a purple belt.."

    Oh and greco starts on your knees and on your feet.
    "No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training...what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable." - Socrates

  9. In tournaments they do that Bro not in combat

  10. Join MMA gym and take both striking and grappling.

  11. MMA gyms are so hard to find because they are like Crossfit, IMO. So many don't know what they are really doing and injuries and attitude is abundant.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Goldie612 View Post
    In tournaments they do that Bro not in combat
    No ****, what you practice though is what becomes second nature. In the line of duty, many an officer has been shot down due to the training practice of recovering your shells from the ground.


    In bar fights I've seen guys tap out lol.

    Side note have fun going to the ground in a street fight and then being stabbed/stomped/shot by the guys friends.


    I'm outta here
    "No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training...what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable." - Socrates

  13. I hear yah Bro but if I'm going to the ground it's a rap from there no reaching for nothing cause mind is set on a few or more choices I have . Only takes me a few seconds to choke someone out shirts & coats are a fast way to know how to end a street fight if your not familiar with collar chokes Bro takes little as 10 seconds for a black out lol yaw brotha's be cool I'll holler

  14. Y'all must be some damn masters haha.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Y'all must be some damn masters haha.
    But not one of them can out piss my 3 yard mark.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Y'all must be some damn masters haha.
    Not even close Bro but I do know some things

  17. You got me there Bro lol

  18. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    MMA gyms are so hard to find because they are like Crossfit, IMO. So many don't know what they are really doing and injuries and attitude is abundant.
    There are 3 or 4 here(maybe more). Don't know if any of them are good(radio commercials make them sound awesome).

  19. Quote Originally Posted by B3ast View Post
    This may has been asked already, (sorry i am new) but i am thinking of starting one of these styles. I am leaning on the Muay Thai. My main concern is losing muscle. Opinions?
    I started out solely boxing when I was 16. I continued to train solely as a boxer alone until I was about 21, then I discovered BJJ.

    The first time I went to a BJJ gym and actually trained I was hooked. I trained in kickboxing, boxing and BJJ for about two years until I noticed my lifts and strength starting to decline and I decided I was going to choose one of them.

    In all of the fights I've been into since I started training in all of them (street fights) I really feel that it's a close between BJJ and boxing. If you're fighting someone with absolutely no training at all they are usually throwing hay makers, forget to breath as they swing, etc. and that's when you can learn boxing alone and kick someone's ass. Lets say that your opponent has some training behind them, then I think BJJ comes in.

    IMO, if every fight is going to start standing up, you should learn stand up before ground game.
    Former Marine, UT-BSN, NSCA-CPT, NASM-CPT, CSCS

  20. It has been a very long time since I was in a street fight because I became smart enough to avoid them and not get into those situations that I actually used to seek out (stupid early 20s). People don't realize that a typical street fight is going to last 10-15 seconds at most. During that time, there is going to be mad swinging and cheap shots. So the best you can defend that and counter to get out of the situation, the better for you. Typically that is going to be a striking discipline.

    That being said, if you don't like to get hit and kicked, but want to think and strategize, then I would say BJJ is a great place to start.

    In the end, you can't lose by gaining a skill no matter the order you learn.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    It has been a very long time since I was in a street fight because I became smart enough to avoid them and not get into those situations that I actually used to seek out (stupid early 20s). People don't realize that a typical street fight is going to last 10-15 seconds at most. During that time, there is going to be mad swinging and cheap shots. So the best you can defend that and counter to get out of the situation, the better for you. Typically that is going to be a striking discipline. That being said, if you don't like to get hit and kicked, but want to think and strategize, then I would say BJJ is a great place to start. In the end, you can't lose by gaining a skill no matter the order you learn.
    Your right bro street fight's dose not last long at all and if your skill level is up to par I don't care if it's ten your not taking me to the ground nor stomping or stabbing my timing is too much for a street fighter and my cardio is the same and when Im in the club Im with more than 15 brothers that do the same

  22. Do bjj im a assistant coach over at TNT mma training center in phx az, and working and learning ground fighting will build a base for striking by learning takedowns and footwork trust me

  23. Ju jitsu all day brothers but you go with what you want to do or what your comfortable with it's better than not training at all

  24. Agreed jiujitsu all day

  25. Jiu jitsu man! I love it! I work at a martial arts school which is nice but I wish I had started with jits. For being an all around fighter you need a stand up game also. And if even throw in some wrestling for the grappling aspect. So a good Mma gym should serve your needs.
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  26. Witch school do you work at,

  27. Im going to piss off someone with this post...but oh well the best to start with is all! You need three things to compete at a pro level im talking skills not athleticism. Jujitsu, wrestling and muay thai. If you start wit anyone separate 98% of people will fall back on what they started with and never be a well rounded fighter. I have been tied to this sport in one way or another since 99 im old...
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post
    Im going to piss off someone with this post...but oh well the best to start with is all! You need three things to compete at a pro level im talking skills not athleticism. Jujitsu, wrestling and muay thai. If you start wit anyone separate 98% of people will fall back on what they started with and never be a well rounded fighter. I have been tied to this sport in one way or another since 99 im old...
    Very true you fight how you train.

    sorry for prior douche posts. Muay thai is my baby.
    "No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training...what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable." - Socrates

  29. Same, muay thai is my passion when it comes to any disciplines. Quite frankly, as many of us have mentioned, anything you do is better than nothing and there is a difference if we are talking about defense, competition, fitness, etc...

    Personally, my krav maga training is what I am going to if I have to get out of a situation. I am not sticking around to roll with someone or taking a risk of breaking my hand. My whole goal is to stop it in 5 seconds and get the hell out of there. But, I love trading shots in the gym with muay thai and it is an insane fitness tool for me.

  30. Wrestling and boxing
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