Pound 4 Pound
- 12-13-2011, 01:33 AM
Pound 4 Pound
The title for best pound for pound fighter is very controversial for some. I believe this is what the list is in my eyes.
1. Anderson Silva
2. Jone Jones
4. Frank Edgar
Anderson Silva has only really been losing a fight in the UFC once. The UFC is a lot more relevant in this conversation to me due to steroid testing for awhile now. His fight with Chael Sonnen exposed his flaws but he still prevailed with his BJJ. When he did not finish a fight it was due to his choice with his stupid attitude. IMO against TL and Maia he did not want to finish a fellow Brazilian. His fight with Lutter was a little lackluster at first but having it not be a title fight can really mess with your head. Hendo did well for a bit till SIlva took him out. The Cote fight was odd, I think Anderson Silva was already bored in the UFC and wanted to test the waters in the later rounds. He never once had a "war" in the cage and I think he wanted one. To me it was obvious he wanted Cote to come at him to create a good match. After that is when he pulled the BS stunts with TL and Maia. He destroyed Griffin and Irvin at 205. Complete domination. To me, a p4p best can move classes. Since these older fights he has dominated many guys at 185 and finished a good amount of fights which plays a role. You have to finish fights a portion of the time to show case your talent in not having a fight go the full time. Some might argue GSP has talent in getting the guy to his position but I will get to that later. Silva, who I think is an *******, is the best in the world but in MMA that can change quick with something like Sonnen or Jones fighting him.
Jones....elbows, need I say more? He has destructive strikes for being so tall and lean with amazing reach and athleticism. He wrestling is great and he gets the guy where he wants (The ground and against the cage to throw elbows.) We saw him in danger against Machida but we all saw how he ended that. He is a new breed, complete super athlete. His strikes are getting better but his attitude is getting worse. The guy is amazing.
GSP, This guy does exactly what you need except finishing a fight. He is a great champion and athlete and martial artist. I have a ton of respect for the guy. I think the Matt Serra fight was a huge wake up and has cursed him since. He hits guys in the face so many times and lays on top of them grounding and pounding but hasn't finished a guy in days. You cant call a guy p4p champ for this. You can say best Welter weight ever, as well as superstart and in the top for p4p but it stops there. It is a great talent to follow the game plan like he does as well as not get caught. He is very well rounded but lacks that stopping ability. Laying on a guy and beating him up is pretty awesome, but its the same everytime which is impressive and will sell tickets and PPV. That is his game and he does it the best out of anyone. There are plenty of 170, 155, 145, 135 fights who end in KO, TKO, and sh!t at least submission so don't give me that.
Frank Edgar, I bashed this guy at first and didnt give him a chance when BJ was in the picture. The guy is for real and relentless. He has power and great recover time. His strikes are some of the best boxing, footwork, and head movement in the sport. His wrestling background has really saved him at times. remember when everyone counted him out against Sherk? Then Penn. This kid is great.
I will admit I am not a fan of the smaller classes. They just do not interest me much due to me not getting that scary feeling in my stomache. I like the HW division but its always changing. I would probably drop Cains name in here if he did not lose to JDS. Both of those guys are top notch and better than Lesner. Now lets see how Overeem does with out steroids. I wish I was talking about Fedor in here : (
- 01-04-2012, 01:45 AM
- 01-05-2012, 03:05 AM
hes pretty damn proven. dominates the welter weight class. i wanan see him start finishing or jumping classes and still winning. he needs to get out of his comfort zone. bottom line is he is so good we wanna see him pushed to the limits. just amazing fighters right here.
01-06-2012, 12:21 PM
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01-10-2012, 01:25 PM
I was considering another AL/AH run soon. I need to cut down a bit from my last Cyanostane run. I'm currently 230lbs. I can use a good 20lbs drop.
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01-12-2012, 01:22 PM
[quote]Cynostane is a relatively new prohormone which features an alteration of the Superdrol compound, with a cyano bond instead of the 2a methyl superdrol bond. Effects – Cynostane, originally developed by Anabolic Innovations, is an extremely anabolic compound with remarkably low androgenic action, making it qualitatively similar to the likes of Oxandrolone or Methenolone (Primobolan)...[/quote]
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01-12-2012, 06:50 PM
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nice, good stuff man, glad you got your bulk on.Cynostane is a relatively new prohormone which features an alteration of the Superdrol compound, with a cyano bond instead of the 2a methyl superdrol bond. Effects – Cynostane, originally developed by Anabolic Innovations, is an extremely anabolic compound with remarkably low androgenic action, making it qualitatively similar to the likes of Oxandrolone or Methenolone (Primobolan)...[/quote]
01-13-2012, 02:39 AM
01-14-2012, 06:47 PM
Pound for Pound for me
1. GSP - The man just gets it done, his ACL injury kind of hurt his stock probably in the P4P category but i don't discount anything he's done in beating some of the best.
2. Jon Jones - This guy only beat Bader, Shogun, Rampage, and Machida in one year no biggy or anything. This kid is crazy good and he could knock off Hendo and Evans this year. Would make a pretty impressive resume.
3. Anderson Silva - Yes he should be higher, but the talent just hasn't been there for him to go against and i don't blame him but i just haven't really been impressed by him beating up on guys like Cote, Griffin, and Maia. Just would like some more epic victories you almost forget he beat Hendo sometimes.
4. Jose Aldo - This guy is a beast, dangerous striker and all around good fighter. Should be a good fight tonight. He's beat Faber, Brown, Ken Flo, and Gamburyan all solid fights. Like to see him end this fight with Mendes though last two have been decisions.
01-16-2012, 01:51 PM
1. Anderson Silva (and I can't stand him)
2. JBJ (not a fan of him either)
4. Jose Aldo
5. Dominick Cruz
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01-17-2012, 11:47 AM
Just one out of left field a up and comer is Douglas Lima I don't know if you guys have had a chance to see him fight but if not look him up he has the potential to be very good.
01-19-2012, 06:53 AM
01-19-2012, 07:02 AM
Potential for serious talent
Rory MaCdonald 170
Dustin Poieier 145
Condit beats Diaz and will beat gsp I'm willing to beat that my man grown a lot and is a true killer and finisher
01-19-2012, 11:52 AM
Sorry I don't see Condit beating Diaz hell I don't see anyone at 170 beating Diaz right now he is on another level I think but definantly will be a good fight.
01-19-2012, 05:36 PM
Diaz could lose easily by losing focus due to the opponent, money, gsp, training partners, UFC ect. I hope Diaz keeps kicking ass but i am scared.
01-19-2012, 06:01 PM
I'm rooting for Diaz and I think Diaz wins. I like Condit, but I couldn't see him beating GSP. Strikers don't fair against GSP, if he wants to take you down and grind you out, he does it and I don't know that Condit has the guard game to deal with GSP's wreslting. I would favor GSP over Nick Diaz as well, but at least Nick is a Gracie blackbelt, so he still has a chance working off his back.
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01-19-2012, 11:37 PM
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