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Sonnen tests positive for PED's

  1.  09-19-2010  12:34 PM
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    Sonnen tests positive for PED's


    http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/CSA...-UFC-117-26978

    Not really surprising, I don't doubt that all the top tier fighters are using. Just sucks that he got caught, looks like no Silva v. Sonnen II now.



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    Originally Posted by Sweekaters View Post
    http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/CSA...-UFC-117-26978

    Not really surprising, I don't doubt that all the top tier fighters are using. Just sucks that he got caught, looks like no Silva v. Sonnen II now.
    As tragic as this is for Chael fans, you can't assume everyone's using or you would also have to assume some tests are fixed and others are not.

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    Originally Posted by Jessep76 View Post
    As tragic as this is for Chael fans, you can't assume everyone's using or you would also have to assume some tests are fixed and others are not.
    Human Growth Hormone is currently not tested for in any major MMA organization. Add in the fact that most anabolics clear your system in a very short time frame. Most of these guys make bank based on their athletic performance, I wouldn't be surprised if 90%+ of the top guys use, but time their cycles around the tests to avoid being caught.

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    crazy i was just gonna start a thread about this. excuse the dumb question but what are PEDs?

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    Originally Posted by perico13 View Post
    crazy i was just gonna start a thread about this. excuse the dumb question but what are PEDs?
    Performance
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    Pretty much covers a lot of things but the obvious is AAS.

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    i think he took hormones because they showed a pic of his back at the weigh in at UFC 117 and he had alot of acne on his back and in the before pics from his prvious fight before silva he had none.

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    Umm I think UFC does test for HGH but it is very hard to catch. I heard it could be something stupid like OTC cold medicine because he was sick for a little bit. Also California has THE WORST and really odd testing. People always get caught and have problems with California athletic commission testing. I don't know if they are just really good or if something is going on.

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    This just in Ed Soares is having major stomach pain....



    from all the laughter ...

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    Originally Posted by Sweekaters View Post
    Human Growth Hormone is currently not tested for in any major MMA organization. Add in the fact that most anabolics clear your system in a very short time frame. Most of these guys make bank based on their athletic performance, I wouldn't be surprised if 90%+ of the top guys use, but time their cycles around the tests to avoid being caught.
    Testing is not done by the organization and is done by the athletic commissions in each state. Some states, such as TX, do not have any testing at all. Also, many times, they randomly test 4-6 weeks prior to the event.

    Originally Posted by bigwhiteguy29 View Post
    Umm I think UFC does test for HGH but it is very hard to catch. I heard it could be something stupid like OTC cold medicine because he was sick for a little bit. Also California has THE WORST and really odd testing. People always get caught and have problems with California athletic commission testing. I don't know if they are just really good or if something is going on.
    HGH is only detectable by blood test and the AC only tests via urinalysis, but I agree that CA has the worst testing procedures in the game.
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    Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Testing is not done by the organization and is done by the athletic commissions in each state. Some states, such as TX, do not have any testing at all. Also, many times, they randomly test 4-6 weeks prior to the event.



    HGH is only detectable by blood test and the AC only tests via urinalysis, but I agree that CA has the worst testing procedures in the game.
    Ahh really? so do you think they are all on hgh then?

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    Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    HGH is only detectable by blood test and the AC only tests via urinalysis, but I agree that CA has the worst testing procedures in the game.
    HGH can be somewhat detected by blood but muscle biopsy is the only 100% accurate way we have IIRC.

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    Originally Posted by bigwhiteguy29 View Post
    Ahh really? so do you think they are all on hgh then?
    IDK what percentage, but I can 100% say that Couture and Tito are using. There's a video on youtube from an interview leading up to their fight in '03. Their heads/jaw look completely different.

    Originally Posted by TexasTitan View Post
    HGH can be somewhat detected by blood but muscle biopsy is the only 100% accurate way we have IIRC.
    Olympic-style testing can detect it when the doses are above "therapeutic" doses. However, no AC doe this style of testing.
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    I'd like to know what he tested pos. for. Some say caffeine is a PED.

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    Antonio big foot silva and josh barnett have the biggest jaws in the sport. Randy and tito really looked like they have and are pretty old and I am pretty sure Randy has done his fair share. It doesn't even bother me because most have used.

    Back to Chael, I hope he gets off the hook or doesn't get suspended. I am dying to see him fight again.

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    Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Performance
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    Drugs

    Pretty much covers a lot of things but the obvious is AAS.
    oh i thought it was some sort of petide or hormone

    Originally Posted by bigwhiteguy29 View Post
    Antonio big foot silva and josh barnett have the biggest jaws in the sport. Randy and tito really looked like they have and are pretty old and I am pretty sure Randy has done his fair share. It doesn't even bother me because most have used.

    Back to Chael, I hope he gets off the hook or doesn't get suspended. I am dying to see him fight again.
    agree with this 100% weather on or off he still did a great job and with a little more practice and dicipline he could be great

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    Originally Posted by bigwhiteguy29 View Post
    Antonio big foot silva and josh barnett have the biggest jaws in the sport. Randy and tito really looked like they have and are pretty old and I am pretty sure Randy has done his fair share. It doesn't even bother me because most have used.

    Back to Chael, I hope he gets off the hook or doesn't get suspended. I am dying to see him fight again.
    You mean to tell me

    this man is not 100% natural? Well damn...

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    wow what is that ugly thing lmao. he blew in his fight vs werdum he couldnt finishi t was really sad.

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    Bigfoot had a pituitary tumor removed several years ago.
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    hes used. He got caught for using ATD. I bet he has suffered a shutdown a long time ago so just used ATD to boost up.

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