- 08-11-2010, 08:44 AM
- 08-11-2010, 10:24 AM
Second, I have honestly never seen such a blatant round of excuses from a champion before in my entire life.
"Oh, I was not having my face beaten in for 23 1/2 minutes, I was establishing guard!"
"No, no, ha, you thought Chael was using my face for a punching bag? Oh, gosh no silly goose! I was letting him punch himself out! Apparently you have never heard of the Rope-A-Dope strategy where you actually never put up a competent defense and your opponent doesn't get tired."
Third, even if we take for granted all Silva's post-fight attempts to salvage his 'untouchable' aura, the fact would remain that he tried and failed a strategy and technique for 23 1/2 minutes. Or in other words: due in no small part to his opponent, he was out-strategized, outworked and outfought for 23 1/2 minutes and capitalized at the great opportunity he was given.
This means, in order, that he is still a great champion, but is now exposed as having a glaring weakness in his game and entirely beatable. For whatever reason, in reaction to this news, individuals such as yourself are acting like they just found out Santa Clause is a hoax.
08-11-2010, 10:38 AM
You're completely disregarding the effect of adrenaline during a fight. I can't remember 90% of the **** that happens during an exchange or a scramble during a fight because you're in flight mode. Saying that he saw the punches, but didn't do anything about them because he couldn't is just retarded. He could still keep his hands up, slip, or counter the punches. Whatever happened to Silva's vaunted sense of range and timing? He got the **** kicked out of him for over 4 1/2 rounds and then made excuses. That's not a real champion in my eyes.
Sonnen needs to start training with some better submission grapplers. Matt Hume isn't far from him and is one of the premier MMA coaches/catch wrestlers.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
08-11-2010, 11:53 AM
08-11-2010, 02:08 PM
His ribs hurt bad enough to open each round with a jumping side kick. That's the healthiest case of hurt ribs I've ever heard of.
NSCA - CSCS
08-11-2010, 10:11 PM
08-11-2010, 10:12 PM
08-11-2010, 10:58 PM
08-11-2010, 11:02 PM
08-11-2010, 11:36 PM
08-12-2010, 11:28 AM
Results count everything. Sorry Mullet. Not sure who it was that died and made you King so that you have free reign to be condacending when all you cleary have is an opinion like the rest of us.
Was called right earlier in this thread, you have the need to win all discussions.
Even Sonnen was quoted of saying Silva may have been injured as he expected more resistance from him.
I guess that is only someone's opinion also and doesn't count for much in your book.
08-12-2010, 12:57 PM
08-12-2010, 01:19 PM
08-12-2010, 01:35 PM
Also, Couture is Greco Roman, so he doesn't have that shoot from afar, football tackle, free-style wrestling TD's. Randy's best TD's are from a body clinch, so we'll see. Randy certainly "can" shoot from a distance, but that's not his specialty, like it is with GSP, Sonnen, Kos, Fitch....
I think the outcome are going to be utter, polar opposites. Either Toney comes in and looks utterly pathetic, or he comes in and shocks the MMA world with a nasty, first round flash.
NSCA - CSCS
08-12-2010, 01:48 PM
08-12-2010, 01:54 PM
08-12-2010, 01:54 PM
And yes, also a bad spot for couture to be, im not sure how well Toneys clinch boxing is but im sure he has the power to throw a few haymakers from most clinch positions
And agree again, either Toney by KO/TKO or Couture takes it to the ground fairly easy and dominates..
08-13-2010, 11:40 AM
08-14-2010, 03:42 AM
08-14-2010, 11:56 AM
08-14-2010, 11:59 AM
"I think James Toney is going to get his ass kicked. James Toney is out of his league," Hopkins recently told Mauro Ranallo on Sirius' Hardcore Sports Radio. "I believe and I'll go on record with this, the best MMA guy or UFC guy goes up against the boxer in the world, in their arena ... gets their ass kicked. I don't care if it's Floyd [Mayweather], [Manny] Pacquiao or Bernard Hopkins. It's not what we do."
Hopkins also added that if UFC champ Anderson Silva tried to straight up box against an elite boxer, he'd struggle as well.
"This is a different arena. I'm not saying he won't have his moments," said Hopkins. "Listen, when that instinct comes in. When one guy is used to taking a guy down, using his forearm or chin or whatever and you take that away, it's like taking his teeth out of his mouth. He's no longer a lion."
NSCA - CSCS
08-26-2010, 10:19 AM
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