- 06-11-2010, 04:29 PM
On Inside MMA, one of the UFC HoF'ers is admitting to their usage in the past. The list is short and the likely candidates are Coleman and Ken, but the more revealing insight is from Dennis Hallman:
Sherdog.com MMA Blog: Friday, June 11, 2010M.Ed. Ex Phys
- 07-27-2010, 11:57 PM
- 07-28-2010, 09:26 AM
07-28-2010, 09:55 AM
07-28-2010, 10:01 AM
08-05-2010, 03:22 AM
most are on gear. and maybe some pull out of fights because they wont pass test, are injured cuz they used to take roids or injured cuz they dont take roids and never did hahaha! so i think that with the testing as far out as it is, is fine for me. if they use a few months before their fight whatever.
08-07-2010, 02:55 PM
I think that video was the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Steroids can't make you better at MMA. Fighting is about technique. Sure strength helps, but superior technique almost always wins. There are some occasions it doesn't. Sure steroids can help your body recover faster, so you can train harder and more often; but at the end of the day if your actual technique doesn't improve you've gained nothing. MMA isn't power lifting where you just throw weights up. It's the use of functional strength which is completely different.
Now of course you take a guy with incredible technique, and he also takes steroids....then that is a different arguement. But to say that 50% on the low end take them, is a joke.
To say guys pull out of fights because they won't pass the drug test is also an ignorant comment. Guys who fight professionaly do it as their career, not for fun. They wouldn't pass up an opportunity to put food on their plate.
Steroid detection times obviously range from a couple days to months, and even past a year. To be fair the UFC has stricter steroid and drug testing then any other professional sport in the United States and most likely in the world.
In the end, what each individual choses to do to become "better" is up to them. Steroids or not, it takes a whole lot more then that to get in the cage and be successfull. I still find it humerous how people automatically assume because some takes steroids they are going to be superhuman. It's not easy even on roids to gain the strength and power; it still comes down to diet and dedication.
08-07-2010, 03:20 PM
08-07-2010, 03:25 PM
08-07-2010, 05:20 PM
But remember it's not always just about raw strength and technique.
Some steroids like EQ significantly raise your red blood cell count without you even trying to do so. They make you last longer in the fight, they improve your cardio with minimal cardio training.
It's these steroids that I deem more powerful when it comes to MMA. That give someone a "significant" edge over another.
08-07-2010, 05:33 PM
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08-07-2010, 05:51 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^The magic pill..........lol
MMA fighters on roids?
NO. Say it isnt so.
Never seen that coming.
08-07-2010, 05:52 PM
08-07-2010, 05:52 PM
08-07-2010, 05:54 PM
08-07-2010, 05:57 PM
08-07-2010, 06:02 PM
EQ was just an example... there's some really powerful ones. That one protein I forget it's name but it will make your cardio WAY better no doubt about it.
It's not ALL about technique btw.
08-07-2010, 06:57 PM
08-07-2010, 07:24 PM
08-07-2010, 08:00 PM
08-08-2010, 01:05 AM
08-08-2010, 02:44 AM
08-08-2010, 11:40 AM
08-08-2010, 05:17 PM
dude, trust that if your taking ped's your gonna have an edge. Your reflexes are quicker and your muscles are stronger. There is a reason there banned in sports, its cause they work really well and cause an unfair advantage to the people who are using them. If you put to fighters that are close in talent as well as skill and one takes roids and the other doesn't the fighter that cheats has signifcantly increased his chances of winning. Now nobody is saying they make u invincible cus a shot on the chin will bring anybody down but they help, alot.
08-09-2010, 03:07 AM
lets go back to what you posted
That last 5% can be what seperates the really great athletes from the good ones. What Im saying is 5% is a big advantage in pro sports. Dont jump on your soap box and get all hurt over the idea that people in the sport you like or compete in might take steroids and that some of those guys could be gaining that extra edge from them. That doesnt make the sport any less legitimate. I also believe that someone already stated that steroids or other banned substances do more than add strength. Now dont take this as me stating that i think every top MMA fighter is taking steroids , Im not.It's like 95% technique.
08-09-2010, 09:47 AM
The most important part of AAS is the CNS recovery. You can train for much longer and much harder because your recovery is so much better. Training for 30-40 hrs/week takes a hell of a toll on the body and they're often on calorically restricted diets. If anyone really thinks that they don't make a difference, then they absolutely zero idea what they're talking about.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
08-09-2010, 03:44 PM
08-09-2010, 05:10 PM
Tim Sylvia destroying Cabbage. Tim was most likely on Stanozolol (Winstrol) at the time of this fight:
Anyone who thinks that steroids don't give a huge advantage is kidding themselves. Look at Sylvia in this video compared to how he looks now, the edge is huge.
08-09-2010, 08:43 PM
The list of how steroids can help u in MMA is endless. That guy up there is a chump. He odesnt know anything. It is really going to help an older guy as well.
08-14-2010, 10:54 PM
08-16-2010, 09:13 AM
08-16-2010, 02:58 PM
Yeah they contacted Carwins manager on saturday, supposedly he is gonna come out with a statement about the whole thing sometime soon. So we will see what happens then. Im not saying hes using anything now or that he has ever but at the same time this sort of thing does not surprise me at all.
08-16-2010, 09:09 PM
08-16-2010, 11:21 PM
08-17-2010, 08:44 AM
Another thing to think about is HGH use, which the UFC doesnt test for yet. If someone had access to all that they probably know where to get HGH. Im not trying to take anything away from him we dont even know if he really was juicing or not but if he was than one could say he probably would not be as big and strong as he is today which is basically his main advantage in the division. Oh well its not like there arnt others who have juiced before and id be willing to be some are on growth hormone right now. Carwin is still a beast.
08-17-2010, 01:32 PM
08-18-2010, 01:36 AM
yeah its just really funny. I think the UFC does test got GH but not as rapidly as others. maybe they do 2-4 tests before a fight. you need to test more frequently for that. even if its just speculation it just shows that because this stuff is around the pressure to use to make it to the top level by using drugs is huge. I could care less I gave up caring on all sports who has used in the past. If guys are still using its pretty lame and if they get caught even lamer(usually means they did higher doses or closer to a fight) we all know this is the PED era. He is still one of my top 5 favorite fighters.
08-18-2010, 09:17 AM
at the end of the day though...UFC does more testing then anyother organization. If you can get an advantage from something people are going to use it regardless....
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