- 04-18-2010, 12:15 AM
Mousasi and Mo both looked like beginners in there. Sheilds layed an preyed and could not finish even with a full mount with those pillow hands of his. The list goes on and on.
Fedor needs to step up and shut up and the nuthuggers need a good dose of reality. The cream rises to the top and for now the UFC has most of the top level competition. There is tons of money for him to make in the UFC if he is as good as he likes to think he is and everyone needs to stop using money as an excuse and realize he's hand picking his fights.
Yeah Yeah Yeah....he beat Crop Cop and Nogeira and now their both conveniently past their prime since they are in the UFC and truly fully exposed.
- 04-18-2010, 12:52 AM
04-18-2010, 01:08 AM
What was all that at the end? I only caught like 2 seconds of it because of the Mrs...lol
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04-18-2010, 02:38 AM
Man StrikeForce is some BS with running over a good 30 minutes. I tried tivoing it and added an extra 10 minutes so I only saw 5 minutes of the fight. Boo Shields winning though. He would have no chance against GSP.
04-18-2010, 08:04 AM
First, I cant predict for anything. Got all 3 wrong :tsk:
Second, props to Melendez for a smart plan and sticking to it.
Third, Mousasi was downright awful, showed little to nothing standing or off his back. Horribly boring fight
Finally, I give credit to Shields for being smart, but Dan looked 39. I will be interested to see Jake in the UFC regardless of weight
04-18-2010, 08:07 AM
COuldnt agree more. The production value was awful, and I had it on mute. Couldnt stand to listen to them Hell Renallo at the beginning was talking about Mo's positioning and had no idea what he was referencing.
I also think Shields becomes a viable option to the UFC at either weight. (I have to eat crow here) He is a bit awkward, but his wrestling was FAR better than I thought. He took Dan down at will, something I have not seen happen. Dan looked outclassed in rounds 2-5
04-18-2010, 09:09 AM
04-18-2010, 09:31 AM
I am definitely interested in seeing him in the UFC, but with that being said, GSP most likely crushes him as well. Hendo was a great wrestler, but I had thought GSP was the best MMA-wrestler for some time, and Shields simply does not seem athletic enough to contend in that area. As well, Henderson is terrible off his back - see A. Silva fight - and I suspect GSP would not have similar issues. This being said, I still think they should bring Shields in to face the winner of Fitch/Alves for a title shot.I also think Shields becomes a viable option to the UFC at either weight. (I have to eat crow here) He is a bit awkward, but his wrestling was FAR better than I thought. He took Dan down at will, something I have not seen happen. Dan looked outclassed in rounds 2-5
04-18-2010, 09:39 AM
I think Shields/Fitch could be a bore-fest, but Alves/Shields has a little more fire power imo.
Hendo looked lost off of his back, I was surprised that he was that bad
As an aside, I was thrilled to see Aoki lose the way he did. He is not in the league of the elite at 155
04-18-2010, 10:56 AM
04-18-2010, 11:35 AM
04-18-2010, 11:56 AM
GSP has been on his back for (I believe) three minutes in his last ~150 minutes of fighting: once against Kos, a minute against Fitch, and a minute against Alves after pulling his groin. If Kos and Fitch were incapable of keeping him there, I doubt that Shields would fare any better. That is also assuming Shields could get him there w/o being stuffed and/or reversed, or even more likely, put on his back prior to that.
Shields was great last night, but his style mirrors GSP's, except for the fact GSP is excellent at everything Shields is reasonably good at! All this being said, Shields is still a credible threat to GSP which is something the UFC still needs. I am interested in seeing GSP tested.
04-18-2010, 12:21 PM
04-18-2010, 02:13 PM
mix, I gotta give you credit. I was not a believer in shields at all. However, he impressed the hell out of me last night. I would love to see him in the UFC at either 170 or 185.
04-18-2010, 03:20 PM
I am not disparaging Shields by saying a potential GSP fight is a wash, as I think he may very well dominate most other WWs, and you are right in that respect, but it is simply a horrendous style match-up for him. He uses both his JJ and wrestling to control opponents from the top position, and that is his only threat. Just not a good match up for him at all, and that is not a comment on his skill set.
04-18-2010, 06:03 PM
Shields will get raped by GSP. I also believe GSP would finish it this time. In fact, GSP would've beaten either of those 2.
04-19-2010, 11:27 AM
[QUOTE=Mulletsoldier;2392290]Ah, you must be referring to Shamrock's neutrality? Could not agree more. The way he remained neutral for the Cung Le, Diaz and Shields fight was very professional. Please note the heavy, heavy sarcasm here.
04-19-2010, 11:32 AM
Looks like Nick was getting his riot beatdown on. you can see him holding on to mayhem's lower body while someone else has his upper body and nick is putting the spurs to his kidneys. Kinda funny though..for a bunch of mixed martial artists they didn't do much to mayhem, granted they had people pulling them off. To see the smile on Dana's face if he were watching it would have been priceless. Except its probably gonna set back all of MMA as a result. Looked like a school cafeteria fight in Watts.
04-19-2010, 11:37 AM
04-19-2010, 01:15 PM
I doubt it has large ramifications for MMA in general. In reality, Strikeforce and Strikeforce only will suffer from this, and CBS may review their presence on network television overall.
SF royally and impressively fucked up this whole endeavor: they bet the farm on Dan Henderson, banked on three title fights being interesting, and delivered a boring, tedious and drawn-out broadcast while losing their champion in the process.
04-19-2010, 01:22 PM
Shields did a great/ smart job picking up the win agianst a past his prime fighter in Henderson wonder what he will do agianst tougher competition in the ufc.
04-19-2010, 02:12 PM
04-19-2010, 05:05 PM
Some people hate the Diaz brothers, but I find them amusing.
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04-19-2010, 05:09 PM
04-19-2010, 09:16 PM
I find the Diaz brothers amusing myself. I also think Shields would get raped by GSP. Shields did a great job getting passed Hendo's guard but then did nothing with it. In my opinion, if you get full mount 3 or 4 rounds in a row on someone, you should have the skill to then finish or at least beat someone up. He did neither in my opinion.
04-20-2010, 10:29 AM
Aoki is wayyyy too small to be a top lw contender bj, gray any top 5 american would destroy him like gilbert did. The japanese athlete isjust not there yet physically and striking is sup par
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