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    UFC 110


    This is a pretty interesting card, especially the main card. Kinda torn on Cain v. Nog. Lets see some thoughts on this one:

    Big Nog v. Cain
    Wandy v. Bisping
    Stevenson v. Sotiropolous
    Jardine v. Bader
    Cro Cop v. Rothwell

    My thoughts as of right now are:
    Cain via UD
    Wandy by TKO 2nd rd
    Stevenson via tko rd 3
    Jardine via UD
    CC by ko rd 1

    IF CC loses, can we finally send him away?
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    not to interested in the main event, but i hope wand destroys bisping and i actually really like watching bader from what i've seen, don't hate jardine but i hope bader takes that one
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    doesnt bader usually lay and pray ? I see him doing just that against jardine's unorthodox striking.
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    I could see Bader trying to grind out a decision, however, if he struggles to get the take down, I see Jardine being a real P.I.T.A. on his feet
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    Bader displayed some power in his last match against Schafer, and if he can shore up his striking defense and learn to reserve that power, Jardine is going to sleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    This is a pretty interesting card, especially the main card. Kinda torn on Cain v. Nog. Lets see some thoughts on this one:

    Big Nog v. Cain
    Wandy v. Bisping
    Stevenson v. Sotiropolous
    Jardine v. Bader
    Cro Cop v. Rothwell

    My thoughts as of right now are:
    Cain via UD
    Wandy by TKO 2nd rd
    Stevenson via tko rd 3
    Jardine via UD
    CC by ko rd 1

    IF CC loses, can we finally send him away?
    CC by KO rd 1? As much as I'd like to join on that hope wagon, because CC was my favorite fighter back in the day, but CC hasn't shown any signs or symptoms that would lead me to diagnosing any of his fights with a KO against anyone, in the remainder of his career.
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    I hope Wandy does bad things to Bisping.
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    I feel like wand has no power at 185, anyone else feel that way? he used to really move people with leg kicks and the clinch was real strong which allowed him to sneak those looping punches in. now he looks like every other striker, the footwork head movement etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonG42O View Post
    I feel like wand has no power at 185, anyone else feel that way? he used to really move people with leg kicks and the clinch was real strong which allowed him to sneak those looping punches in. now he looks like every other striker, the footwork head movement etc
    I used to associate Wandy with a nasty clinch and the clinch-and-knee as one of his main arsenals, but not so much anymore. I'm not saying he doesn't still have a dangerous clinch, but I just can't recall him using it much in the UFC.
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    bisping is so garbage. his greatest victory was Leben. I cant believe he considers himself to be in the contention
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    I am concerned that Bisping is going to just make it a wrestling match. I am hopeful that Wandy can catch him a la Hendo
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    did u guys see bispings video blog a couple days ago? rampage is back at wolfslair training in the coldddd
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    I am concerned that Bisping is going to just make it a wrestling match. I am hopeful that Wandy can catch him a la Hendo
    Wandy has really, really improved his TD defense since his loss to Tito early in his career. The only one that's been able to control him on the ground since then is Arona (undefeated in ADCC).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Wandy has really, really improved his TD defense since his loss to Tito early in his career. The only one that's been able to control him on the ground since then is Arona (undefeated in ADCC).
    Remember rd 3 v. Chuck. He took him down at will. I just hope Bisping is not successful with that if that is the tactic he chooses
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Remember rd 3 v. Chuck. He took him down at will. I just hope Bisping is not successful with that if that is the tactic he chooses
    He didn't keep him down, though. Chuck shot in to not lose the fight in a defensive position; I don't see Bisping being up by 2 rounds and having the wrestling to TD Wand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Remember rd 3 v. Chuck. He took him down at will. I just hope Bisping is not successful with that if that is the tactic he chooses
    I'm not making excuses for Wandy, (but I kind of am), Chuck "waaaaaaaas" first & foremost a wrestler, who obviously only displayed it for defensive purposes, but he does have the know-how, nonetheless, to be offensive with it.

    I hear you though and those particular instances frustrated me.

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    I agree, and totally understand the frustration. I am just hopeful that Wandy destroys him, but am concerned that Bisping is going to try to grind out a decision
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    Side Note, spoiler topic for UFC 109


    Why did the Couture/Coleman not look like two "old" guys fighting, but just one old guy getting picked on? Coleman looked slow, awkward and not at all like he was a veteran of fighting.

    Also, apparently what Tito said to Mark Coleman after the fight was, "payback is a mother****er," and after their brief exchange, Jenna allegedly came up to the cage and flipped Mark off. Those two make a nice couple.

    P.S. I'm unclear as to why Tito said that to Mark, I did read the explanation, but I browsed through it too quickly to retain it. Anyone (and by anyone, Rodja) know why Tito would say that? Or is he just trying to stir some relevancy back into his career with the WWE drama?
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    I can see Bisping trying to outpoint Wand like he did against Leben, but I think that the stance will change the outcome. Leben is a southy and is pretty one-dimensional; he does have some ground skills, but nothing major. Moving to the right against Wand will expose Bisping's chin again and Wand does have very good TD.
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    I know Wandy hasnt been winning much lately but I really think he is going to sh1t all over Bisping during this match. Bisping has no knockout power so you can scratch that off the list of possibilities. I doubt Bisping will be able to just take Wandy down and if so Wandy could submit him, but most likely he will just get back up and punish him for it. For some reason I see Wandy reversing a take down with his leg sweep from behind thingy and then pounding the sit outta his face from on top. 1st rnd TKO for Silva.
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    Nog will rape Cain, I think Cain is highly overrated honestly. He has good takedowns but thats it. He punches like a baby and he was getting raped in standup by Kongo. He will never be able to take down Carwin or Lesnar. And if he does get to take down Nog he will get submitted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    Nog will rape Cain, I think Cain is highly overrated honestly. He has good takedowns but thats it. He punches like a baby and he was getting raped in standup by Kongo. He will never be able to take down Carwin or Lesnar. And if he does get to take down Nog he will get submitted.
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    All i gotta say is..... cmon Crocop, SHOW US SOMETHING ALREADY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xpballer View Post
    All i gotta say is..... cmon Crocop, SHOW US SOMETHING ALREADY!
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    I'm one of the very few out there but I think Bispin will take this one. Wandy has been too wild lately and leaving way too many openings and I think Bispin will take advantage of that to try to pick him apart and take him down.

    I think it will go to the judges but I see Bispin taking it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    I'm one of the very few out there but I think Bispin will take this one. Wandy has been too wild lately and leaving way too many openings and I think Bispin will take advantage of that to try to pick him apart and take him down.

    I think it will go to the judges but I see Bispin taking it.
    As far as a "current" talent call, I still give the edge to Wanderlei, but I'm not confident in his victory. I do think Bisping has a chance and I won't be shocked if he does win, just angry.
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    if Wand still has any more of that 5 year / 20 win streak in him, hes gonna blast bisping to the moon. I mean UFC wouldnt have even scheduled this fight unles Wand lost those decisions and the KO to rampage. I personally think bisping is top 5 most annoying people in the world so Im really hoping he gets shut off by wanddd
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    I've been going over the Nog/Cain fight in my head for awhile and can't see why Nog is seen as such a dog in this fight. He's faced better wrestlers and it's not like Cain is a huge threat on his feet nor will he outwork, out-grapple, or out-heart Nog. Hell, Cain's style is tailor made for a Nog choke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I've been going over the Nog/Cain fight in my head for awhile and can't see why Nog is seen as such a dog in this fight. He's faced better wrestlers and it's not like Cain is a huge threat on his feet nor will he outwork, out-grapple, or out-heart Nog. Hell, Cain's style is tailor made for a Nog choke.
    It's likely because a lot of people only acknowledge him for his UFC performances and outside of Nog v Couture, he has been less then impressive. There's probably a heavy consensus that Pride Nog is history. Furthermore, I'm presuming most current fans do not recognize the caliber of talent the Pride HW contained during his time there, so apart from people who watched Pride, which I doubt is the general masses, Nog will be heavily underestimated until he proves otherwise.
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    couldnt agree more. I dont think people believe Nog in 2010 is the Nog of several years ago. If he is, he beats Cain easy. If he is not, and is sluggish in any way, I think Cain will outwork him, provided his sub defense is on par
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    ALl I can say is wow! Cain is a monster and is a legit threat to Lesnar should they fight in July. I personally think he deserves the fight with that performance and the winner of Mir v. Carwin should fight the winner of Lesnar v. Cain
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    I may be with you on that^. One the most impressive main events in a while. Co main event not bad either but not nearly as great as Nog/Cain. Very very impressive.
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    I was going for Cain,but I thought Nog was going to knock Cain out.Damn that was some crisp striking!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    ALl I can say is wow! Cain is a monster and is a legit threat to Lesnar should they fight in July. I personally think he deserves the fight with that performance and the winner of Mir v. Carwin should fight the winner of Lesnar v. Cain
    With these heavy weights it's all about who's chin is in the wrong place at the wrong time because they all hit so hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustysballs View Post
    I was going for Cain,but I thought Nog was going to knock Cain out.Damn that was some crisp striking!!
    I never did think Nog had the best stand up, I wish he had of taken Cain to the floor and tested Cain's ground game. Pretty sure outcome would have been difference.

    Both great fighters though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    Nog will rape Cain, I think Cain is highly overrated honestly. He has good takedowns but thats it. He punches like a baby and he was getting raped in standup by Kongo. He will never be able to take down Carwin or Lesnar. And if he does get to take down Nog he will get submitted.
    dude really.. u think cain is over-rated... he was under-rated until last night... his stand up looks real nice and crisp, he keeps everything real tight and doesnt throw wild punches.... he doesnt need to take down lesnar or carwin since he has an advantage on his feet
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    Cain's boxing is obviously a lot better than the preconceived notions.

    Storopolis or whatever the hell, looked beastly against Joe. I was very impressed by his boxing but his ground game was SICK.
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    haha cant believe the guy who fought cro cop only had 2 days notice.

    1. poor bastard
    2. dumb bastard

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigzach1234 View Post
    dude really.. u think cain is over-rated... he was under-rated until last night... his stand up looks real nice and crisp, he keeps everything real tight and doesnt throw wild punches.... he doesnt need to take down lesnar or carwin since he has an advantage on his feet
    Yeah his stand-up looked pretty good Saturday, he has a lot more power than I thought he did. He has definitely improved. But the thing with Lesnar/Carwin is they are both great wrestlers who also have 25lbs of muscle on this guy. If he is winning in the standup they will just take him down. And with the size of their necks its gonna be hard for him to knock them out. But I was wrong about the Nog fight so maybe ill be wrong about the next one too. Cain is better than I thought he was and I am very interested in his next fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walugi View Post
    haha cant believe the guy who fought cro cop only had 2 days notice.

    1. poor bastard
    2. dumb bastard

    well hes on the UFC roster, already had 2 fights with them. its a job you know, when they call your name you gotta man up
  

  
 

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