Nick Diaz wants to fight GSP
- 02-01-2010, 02:29 PM
Nick Diaz wants to fight GSP
Strikeforce champ Nick Diaz says Georges St-Pierre just fine for his next opponent
by John Morgan on Feb 01, 2010 at 6:30 am ET
For as much praise as new Strikeforce welterweight champion Nick Diaz (21-7 MMA, 3-0 SF) receives for his grappling prowess, it's his voluminous striking attack that has led to his most recent surge in popularity.
Never was that more evident than in this past Saturday's "Strikeforce: Miami" main event, where Diaz defeated DREAM champ and vaunted striker Marius Zaromskis at his own game.
Now the question for Diaz becomes, "What's next?" And the scrappy Californian isn't afraid to ask for the best.
"I want to fight Georges St-Pierre," Diaz said. "That's the one fight I'm talking about."
Calling out the UFC's welterweight champion may prove an exercise in futility for Diaz. The company has stood by its vow not to cross-promote with other organizations, and every effort by fans, media and "crazy Russians" to get UFC brass to waver has fallen short.
Performances like Diaz's on Saturday night must get UFC president Dana White to at least take notice of the efforts of his former employee, but the likelihood of the exec offering up his champion is slim-to-none.
In the meantime, Diaz will have to find targets within Strikeforce's grasp.
Many observers believe Jay Hieron (19-4 MMA, 2-0 SF), who on Saturday fell victim to a technology failure and was once again unseen by fans not in attendance, should be next in line, but Diaz isn't so sure.
"I'd rather fight someone that's a little more important than Jay Hieron," Diaz said. "His fight wasn't even on the main card. Why am I going to fight him when no one saw [his fight]? I don't even know who he is.
"They keep bringing me these guys that nobody even knows who they are."
While Diaz's recent Strikeforce victims Scott Smith and Frank Shamrock might beg to differ, Diaz has a point. While his latest win will undoubtedly garner him further respect in the worldwide rankings at 170-pounds, Strikeforce might find it difficult to convince the public that bright prospects like Andre Galvao (3-1 MMA, 0-0 SF) or Tyron Woodley (6-0 MMA, 3-0 SF) are prepared for the matchup.
Fans have for years called for a rematch of a 2004 UFC bout between Diaz and current Strikeforce middleweight contender Robbie Lawler (17-5 MMA, 1-1 UFC), but the new 170-pound champion seemed to rule out that possibility.
"I fought Robbie before, and we fight at different weights (now)," Diaz said. "But we're friends as far as I'm concerned, so I don't even want to talk about something like that.
"Robbie Lawler's not talking [expletive] trying to fight me, so I'm not going to have anything bad to say about him."
A rematch with former EliteXC foe K.J. Noons (7-2 MMA, 0-0 SF), a recent Strikeforce signee, is also possible. But the bout would almost certainly be a catchweight affair, something that neither fighter would necessarily be keen to, and Noons is creeping up on two years without a mixed martial arts contest – a fact not lost on Diaz.
"Who is Noons?" Diaz asked. "He hasn't fought in forever. This guy doesn't even fight anymore. He quit. He's scared.
"What's he going to do? Is he going to fight or what?"
A rematch (or third meeting if you count their legendary post-fight hospital encounter) with Joe Riggs (32-11 MMA, 3-3 SF) was ruled out with "Diesel's" Saturday night loss to Hieron, so Diaz's next move is currently uncertain.
Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker seems to think a bout with DREAM fighter Hayato "Mach" Sakurai (35-10-2 MMA, 0-0 SF) could prove fruitful, but with the 34-year-old mired in an 0-2 slump and lacking a bankable name in the U.S., there is certainly no guarantee that the promotion's broadcast partners will buy into the plan.
So after notching his 10th win in his past 11 bouts, Diaz will sit back and wait for the smoke to clear. For his next appearance, Diaz asks only that his employers bring him the very best opponent – and paycheck – the sport has to offer.
"I want to fight the best," Diaz said. "I want to fight the people who everybody thinks is the best out there because they don't seem to notice me. They don't put me on any magazines. They don't put my brother on any magazines.
"Whoever you're going to pay me the most money to fight, I'm going to fight. ... I'm down to fight whoever."
For more on "Strikeforce: Miami," check out the MMA Events section of MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps | MMAjunkie.com).
In a theoretical GSP/Diaz, I give it to GSP. Though Diaz has the ground sub game on GSP, GSP has the TD and ground control on Diaz. I wouldn't see GSP keeping it standing, and I don't see Diaz being able to stop him (in said theoretical fight).NSCA - CSCS
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02-01-2010, 03:21 PM
NSCA - CSCS
02-01-2010, 03:22 PM
02-01-2010, 03:27 PM
I think a Silva/Machida fight would be even more epic (in theory), if they weren't friends.
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02-01-2010, 03:28 PM
02-01-2010, 04:19 PM
02-01-2010, 04:35 PM
Yeah? What do you hear about Echevierra and the Diaz brodders? What about them? What about Gaspar Gomez? What is he gonna do when you start moving 2000 keys?
F*ck Gaspar Gomez! And f*ck the f*ckin' Diaz brodders! f*ck 'em all! I bury those c0ckroaches! ! !
02-02-2010, 08:55 AM
02-02-2010, 08:58 AM
I doubt Anderson/GSP happens for a variety of reasons, but the olympics being a big reason, and Anderson is naturally much bigger. I do not see that lasting very long for GSP.
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02-02-2010, 09:06 AM
Total side note, but I think it's absolutely hilarious and hypocritical that so many people throw out AAS accusations at so many people, yet, somehow, Andy has come out unscathed in that department. There have been so many claims that he walks around at ~230 (which I say is total bull****), but thy all forget that he fought at 167 at the beginning of his career. Kinda makes me throw up an eyebrow or 2...
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02-02-2010, 12:45 PM
02-02-2010, 12:51 PM
02-02-2010, 12:56 PM
02-02-2010, 01:02 PM
Some notes, brethren:
a) GSP was on a Francophone radio station as well as a domestic MMA T.V., program stressing that, despite rumors, the probability of him even attempting to qualify for the 2012 Olympics are massively blown out of proportion. The rumors themselves stemmed from his wrestling coach - a Montreal gym owner who does (or has) competed on the Canadian Men's team - claiming that GSP is "Olympic Caliber."
b) GSP is currently and has been for some time "bulking up," past his normal ~190 walking weight - ostensibly in preparation for a permanent move to MW. It is highly possible that GSP will have one more fight in 2010 (after Hardy) at WW, and then spend the remainder of the calendar year transitioning to a 210 walking weight in order to compete at MW.
c) Size seems to be an irrelevant factor in a Spider/GSP fight, save for Anderson's length: if he can effectively establish range, then he could possibly negate GSP's TD attempts. That fact notwithstanding, Anderson does not effectively use his size and strength - though his Thai Clinch seems to suggest he is strong - and I simply cannot see him having the advantage in that aspect.
d) Out of the current, probable fights for Anderson, GSP has by far and away the most viable opportunity to defeat him, and do so convincingly. This victory would be contingent on a wide-range of factors, and obviously Anderson's fight against Vitor will give us some insight on how the Spider handles an explosive athlete - that is, unless you consider Chris Leben an explosive athlete! To date, Anderson has not faced a top ten pound-for-pound opponent, and I am highly interested in seeing this fight, if for no other reason than that. You could make the case that both Florian for Penn, and Fitch, Alves and Penn for GSP were all top-ten pound-for-pound at the time of their fight. I think it is amazing how readily Anderson crushed a top-five LHW, though.
02-02-2010, 01:07 PM
I think the length will be the biggest issue for Anderson. However, I will say this, I would not be the least bit surprised to see GSP a permanent fixture at 185 and Anderson a more frequent competitor at 205, especially if Shogun is able to defeat Machida. A Shogun v. Anderson title fight would be interesting.
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02-02-2010, 01:12 PM
M.Ed. Ex Phys
02-02-2010, 11:39 PM
Just a comment on Nick Diaz...
After watching that fight and his stand-up I can only but laugh at him saying he wants to take on GSP.
Seriously, any precision striker with good footwork and solid technical striking could pretty much pick Diaz apart. He never covers, his hands are always down, he goes on wild swings, leaves his jaw straight out there, waiting for counters and doesn't even carry that much juice behind his punches. The only reason he hasn't been caught more often is because he has a reasonable reach advatage on most of his opponents. Put a technical striker in front of him and watch him aimlessly shoot for takedowns and get stuffed.
02-03-2010, 02:34 AM
Its easy to call out a guy from a different organization when you know it's never gonna happen.
Hey guys, I wanna fight GSP too. Lmfao
02-03-2010, 12:54 PM
02-03-2010, 01:42 PM
gsps stand up is as boring as machidas but isnt half as good... wow gsp has good quick legs kicks that dont effect the fighters till later in the round(s) Diaz can take a punch gsp couldnt knock fitch out so i doubt he could knock diaz out. diaz and gsp are both cardio machines. diaz and karo went 3 rounds and pretty much a equal fight the whole time. karo went 3 solid rounds with gsp and almost tapped gsp out with a simple kimura hes lucky karo was gassing out. gsp controlled bj penn and gassed him out and won while giving the audience and viewers the boringest fight u could pay for.
diaz has reach and will actually put up a good fight out of anything havent seen a boring one yet, and gets no credit. Gsp is all about boring fights and calls him self a martial art artist and doesnt hardly finish fights
stand up would be equal and probaly favor diaz so gsp will use his artistic martial arts and try to take nick diaz down and i guess try to hold him on the ground till he gasses which i would say good luck to that..
i said all that to say:
It'd be a AWESOME fight and i hope nick diaz cusses him (since gsp cant understand english anyway) and does all the crap he always does and gets a victory to put him back in the ufc. which the fight will probably never happen, cause like he said they wont put him in magazines and hes beat good fighters...
i think i read somewhere his strikeforce contract is about up hes got one lined up again for the ufc not sure tho
02-03-2010, 01:45 PM
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02-03-2010, 02:33 PM
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02-03-2010, 03:15 PM
well in the beginning he beat Gomi with a goga plata (they took his victory away because of thc in his system, God forbid weed make u fight better) besides people that fail steroid tests dont seem to get there wins taken away...
hes fought a lot of top 10'ers but the judges dont like him in the ufc so a descision in the u.f.c. will never be a victory for him he owned joe rigs im a karo fan but in my eyes they both were equal i guess. he did better then sherk, diaz defended 100 of his take downs... the judges just dont like him he fought deigo sanches but i dont think ive watched that one but he lost by descision and i wouldnt doubt it if he did better. (diego doesnt look good anymore now that he fought a champ lol)
i just really like his shows and he puts up better fights against wreslers then the standard muay thai jiu jitsu guy and gsp in my eyes is just another wresler lookin to win every descision which now that ive said that he would probaly win against diaz lol cause he cant finish a fight its be a great show wish itd happen ufc just doesnt want nick fighting a top 10'er; rodja
from my own experience mma is a mental game from prefight untill the actual fight and nick diaz plays the mental aspect.
02-03-2010, 04:13 PM
right on brother, if Nick didnt get the boot from the UFC he would have fought plenty of guys on the "top10" list. He is my favorite fighter and has been for awhile. The fights are always entertaining, hes talking and taunting and doing weird $hit with his hands LOL i think its hilarious. Always precise with his punches, its great how he sets up the body shot and drops dudes with it. his BJJ is nasty, besides Aoki nobody has ever pulled off a gogo. finally dude gets down with the herb and promotes it especially for people who could really use it (cancer,glaucoma, Khrons desease). I think nick diaz is a solid dude who always gets raped by the judges, some of who have publicly said that they dont like him and dont score for him.
02-04-2010, 09:41 AM
M.Ed. Ex Phys
02-04-2010, 10:02 AM
i wanna see nick diaz pull off a inverted triangle w/ a kimura like the one guy did on the last paper view lol that'd hit the media and gsp would feel like robbie lawler lol with diaz anything could happen but i do doubt it wish it would.
02-06-2010, 11:27 AM
If you think GSP/Alves, GSP/Fitch, and/or GSP/Penn were "boring" than I am not sure what else to say to you. Do you boo grapplers often? Are you from Virginia, Tennessee maybe?diaz has reach and will actually put up a good fight out of anything havent seen a boring one yet, and gets no credit. Gsp is all about boring fights and calls him self a martial art artist and doesnt hardly finish fights
The other stuff is certainly debatable, but you have to be joking here. Nick's foot positioning is often sloppy, and he leaves his chin exposed - especially when going for those looping uppercuts he was hitting Mariusz with. The Whitemare nearly finished Diaz precisely because his defense is poor, and once you get on the inside on Nick, his reach advantage is gone and thereby his "striking advantage" is gone. The fights Diaz has one standing up have been due to his length, not his power (pepper punches do not count) or his technical prowess (Stockton-Fu is not an official martial art). The fact is this: a crisp striker like GSP, or even Mike Swick, Dan Hardy or Anthony Johnson would destroy Nick on the feet, as much as I like him.stand up would be equal and probaly favor diaz so gsp will use his artistic martial arts and try to take nick diaz down and i guess try to hold him on the ground till he gasses which i would say good luck to that..
In reality, Nick has never beaten a Top Ten WW, and was beaten in the UFC by Riggs, Sherk, Sanchez and Parisyan. At this respective point in their careers, GSP would pick Diaz apart on the feet, and take him down at will.
I can obviously respect the nut-huggery, seeing as I indulge in some GSP nuthuggery myself, but this is one of the most inflated accounts of a fighter I have ever seen - well, since my last account of GSP.
02-06-2010, 11:37 AM
I'd just like to distance myself from my doppelganger here and say that I think in a GSP vs. Diaz fight, Diaz gets about fifteen shades of **** kicked out of him.
02-06-2010, 12:34 PM
02-06-2010, 12:41 PM
02-06-2010, 12:47 PM
I am beginning to suspect you are Nick Diaz himself, because he gives the same excuses for his losses in the UFC: judges did not like him, takedowns are for pussies, the fight should be judged on who took more damage, and so on. I like Nick Diaz, but he is anywhere from the 8th to 10th best WW in the world, and in my eyes, he would get absolutely fucking destroyed by Alves, Fitch, Johnson or Daley (power advantages, on the last two) - let alone GSP.
02-06-2010, 12:58 PM
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