Thanks guys!

Originally Posted by poison

What"s new in the formula?

Methylcobalamin
More beta alanine
Magnesium creatine chelate
creatine gluconate and/or orotate (nice one, if it's orotate!)
Obliterac is a fruit complex plus grape seed
no dmae

pretty sweet!

Yep, we bumped the BA, Aginine salts and Citrulline Malate significantly. We dropped the creatine slightly for ease of stacking with CRE-02 or other favorite creatine product. We went with MCC, Creatine Gluconate and Di-Sodium Creatine Phosphate and added the wholefood orac blend. It tastes fantastic and works even better!

Question: would using the caffeinated pre w/o and non-caffeinated post w/o be a nice combo?

Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF

Question: would using the caffeinated pre w/o and non-caffeinated post w/o be a nice combo?

Yeah, in my opinion if you are going to use a serving pre and post workout then this would be a good scenerio.

Cool, thanks M!!

Can you tell me the caffeine amount or is that a no-no?

I seem to remember the old one being 200mg, I may be wrong.

Thanks Poison!

Originally Posted by poison

I seem to remember the old one being 200mg, I may be wrong.

Thats a good ballpark figure...

Speaking of good ballparks.....


Lets go Yankees




**for anyone that doesn't know, Millennium1 really may ban me from our sub forum for that one **

Had my first workout with the new ragNOrok ultra today, and was extremely impressed. In the past six months since I started exercising with a regular routine, the workout I had today easily rates in the top three. Huge amounts of drive and focus, with an awesome dry, solid pump. Today was one of those rare days where I just couldn't let myself stop until the point that I literally wasn't able to perform another rep. I ended up purchasing this because I ran out of cre-02 and RPM, but couldn't afford to spend 65 bucks on a creatine and stim separately. A solid all-in-one supp seemed like the obvious solution. I can definitely say I made the right choice after today's workout. Also, i didn't realize that there is no acesulfame-k used in sweetening until after I purchased, but that in itself is AWESOME. Thanks again for the great new product, Matt!

glad to see the first happy customer posting

Oh, and i want to add something to that review now that I've used it a few more times. On the first day I mixed a scoop with 8oz of water, and HATED the flavor. Just started mixing a scoop with only 4oz, and it is infinitely better. Just like hawaiian punch.

Originally Posted by millerni

Oh, and i want to add something to that review now that I've used it a few more times. On the first day I mixed a scoop with 8oz of water, and HATED the flavor. Just started mixing a scoop with only 4oz, and it is infinitely better. Just like hawaiian punch.

good insight bud! Im sure that will help a lot of people who are struggling with the taste at 8oz.

Originally Posted by CTDeuce

good insight bud! Im sure that will help a lot of people who are struggling with the taste at 8oz.

The product tastes great in my opinion regardless of the amount of water added.

Originally Posted by Millennium 1

The product tastes great in my opinion regardless of the amount of water added.

I drink it with 8oz of water and LOVE the taste....but apparently someone out there doesn't, haha.