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    I have noticed this in a couple of products. Advanced PCT and a sexual performance product.

    Anyone have any studies to back the test boosting and LH boosting abilities of this stuff? I know its great for endurnace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCfan1 View Post
    I have noticed this in a couple of products. Advanced PCT and a sexual performance product.

    Anyone have any studies to back the test boosting and LH boosting abilities of this stuff? I know its great for endurnace.
    Honestly there is one study done on rats that showed that Cordyceps Sinensis can increase testosterone production in the leydig cells. The increase was absolutely minimal but I think the right extract like C5 or C-VO2 would have a much better effect than the crappy cordyceps products that claim these effects. I can tell you without a doubt that 450mg of CS at 20% polysaccharides will not do a single thing for test production if the CS isn't cultured correctly. It needs to be dosed higher, use a better extract or one that isn't made in China like 90% of the CS on the market.

    I know if get a boost in libido from C5 but no other cordyceps product has had this effect for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Millennium 1 View Post
    Honestly there is one study done on rats that showed that Cordyceps Sinensis can increase testosterone production in the leydig cells. The increase was absolutely minimal but I think the right extract like C5 or C-VO2 would have a much better effect than the crappy cordyceps products that claim these effects. I can tell you without a doubt that 450mg of CS at 20% polysaccharides will not do a single thing for test production if the CS isn't cultured correctly. It needs to be dosed higher, use a better extract or one that isn't made in China like 90% of the CS on the market.

    I know if get a boost in libido from C5 but no other cordyceps product has had this effect for me.
    Thank you Matt for your reply. Very insightful and helpful.

    One more thing what role does L-Histadine play in aiding Cordyceps? Does it even need to be added to a product with Cordyceps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCfan1 View Post
    Thank you Matt for your reply. Very insightful and helpful.

    One more thing what role does L-Histadine play in aiding Cordyceps? Does it even need to be added to a product with Cordyceps?
    Absolutely none IMO. Even if cordyceps could 'strongly" modulate testosterone in low doses, L-Histidine is a naturally occuring component of CS and additional supplemental histidine isn't needed for anything within cordyceps to become active or effective. Besides we get enough histidine throughout the day from our protein sources that supplemental histidine wouldn't be needed at all.

    This is also the reason I don't feel supplemental histidine is needed for carnosine production when taking beta alanine.

    The study done on rats had a very high equivalent human dose because I believe the amount used in these studies was 450mg in vivo and in vitro. Humans would need a much larger dose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Millennium 1 View Post
    Absolutely none IMO. Even if cordyceps could 'strongly" modulate testosterone in low doses, L-Histidine is a naturally occuring component of CS and additional supplemental histidine isn't needed for anything within cordyceps to become active or effective. Besides we get enough histidine throughout the day from our protein sources that supplemental histidine wouldn't be needed at all.

    This is also the reason I don't feel supplemental histidine is NOT needed for carnosine production when taking beta alanine.

    The study done on rats had a very high equivalent human dose because I believe the amount used in these studies was 450mg in vivo and in vitro. Humans would need a much larger dose.
    Thanks again!! Good stuff on Beta-Alanine. I have wonder that myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Millennium 1;
    Absolutely none IMO. Even if cordyceps could 'strongly" modulate testosterone in low doses, L-Histidine is a naturally occuring component of CS and additional supplemental histidine isn't needed for anything within cordyceps to become active or effective. Besides we get enough histidine throughout the day from our protein sources that supplemental histidine wouldn't be needed at all.

    This is also the reason I don't feel supplemental histidine is needed for carnosine production when taking beta alanine.

    The study done on rats had a very high equivalent human dose because I believe the amount used in these studies was 450mg in vivo and in vitro. Humans would need a much larger dose.
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    Matt how is the data to support these claims?


    Liver disease: Cordyceps can improve symptoms and liver-cell structures dramatically. Cirrhosis cells disappeared in 70 percent of the patients.

    Just wanted to add that you products containing Cordyceps should be marketed for more than an endurance product if most of these claims are true!

    The health efficacies of Cordyceps Sinensis are obvious in:

    Asthma, allergic rhinitis.
    Anti-aging, weakness
    Boosts energy and stamina
    Boosts libido and sexual function
    Benefits the heart
    Benefits the kidneys and liver
    Chronic bronchitis, coughing
    Declining of sex drive
    Improves general vitality
    Increases lung function
    Improves athletic performance
    Lowering raised blood lipid levels, strengthening the body's immunity
    Poor renal function, renal injuries by chemicals.
    Poor resistance of respiratory tract, catching flu easily
    Poor function of lungs & kidneys, irregular menstruation
    Regulating blood pressure (high or low blood pressure)
    Relieves asthma
    Supports sexual health
    Supports the lungs and improves respiratory function
    Supports the immune system
    Scavenges free radicals (antioxidant)

    Cordyceps has been regarded as a very safe herb throughout its traditional history, and is considered completely safe for clinical use today. Experiments on animals have not found a lethal dose, even when Cordyceps is given in extremely high amounts (10 to 80 grams per kilogram of body weight), nor does Cordyceps have any teratogenic or mutagenic effects. Instances of mild stomach discomfort have been reported in clinical trials.
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    One more question for you guys, there is no reason or need to cycle citruvol or cordygen V02 is there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCfan1 View Post
    Matt how is the data to support these claims?


    Liver disease: Cordyceps can improve symptoms and liver-cell structures dramatically. Cirrhosis cells disappeared in 70 percent of the patients.

    Just wanted to add that you products containing Cordyceps should be marketed for more than an endurance product if most of these claims are true!

    The health efficacies of Cordyceps Sinensis are obvious in:

    Asthma, allergic rhinitis.
    Anti-aging, weakness
    Boosts energy and stamina
    Boosts libido and sexual function
    Benefits the heart
    Benefits the kidneys and liver
    Chronic bronchitis, coughing
    Declining of sex drive
    Improves general vitality
    Increases lung function
    Improves athletic performance
    Lowering raised blood lipid levels, strengthening the body's immunity
    Poor renal function, renal injuries by chemicals.
    Poor resistance of respiratory tract, catching flu easily
    Poor function of lungs & kidneys, irregular menstruation
    Regulating blood pressure (high or low blood pressure)
    Relieves asthma
    Supports sexual health
    Supports the lungs and improves respiratory function
    Supports the immune system
    Scavenges free radicals (antioxidant)

    Cordyceps has been regarded as a very safe herb throughout its traditional history, and is considered completely safe for clinical use today. Experiments on animals have not found a lethal dose, even when Cordyceps is given in extremely high amounts (10 to 80 grams per kilogram of body weight), nor does Cordyceps have any teratogenic or mutagenic effects. Instances of mild stomach discomfort have been reported in clinical trials.
    I haven't seen the exact study on Cordyceps and cirrhotic liver cells but I know there have been many gold standard clinicals done in the US, China and Japan on the efficacy of cordyceps on all of the other claims you listed and cordyceps proved time and again to be effective in nearly all of the cases where the studies used a quality cordyceps product as the standard. Several of the US studies that showed cordyceps to be ineffective were done with poor quality raw material...go figure.

    Our cordy containing products certainly support more than just performance as most have come to find. Unfortunately we have to tread lightly with any claims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCfan1 View Post
    One more question for you guys, there is no reason or need to cycle citruvol or cordygen V02 is there?
    Not in my opinion unless you take them for so long that they feel as if the effects are waning. If that happens for some reason then take a short break before resuming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Millennium 1 View Post
    I haven't seen the exact study on Cordyceps and cirrhotic liver cells but I know there have been many gold standard clinicals done in the US, China and Japan on the efficacy of cordyceps on all of the other claims you listed and cordyceps proved time and again to be effective in nearly all of the cases where the studies used a quality cordyceps product as the standard. Several of the US studies that showed cordyceps to be ineffective were done with poor quality raw material...go figure.

    Our cordy containing products certainly support more than just performance as most have come to find. Unfortunately we have to tread lightly with any claims.
    Thats really good to know! I understand that you can't make these claims though but still its good to get so sort of confirmation on it.

    I asked about cycling those products cause I am gearing my training here shortly towards being a triathlete. I am going to start training next month and hope to compete locally late this year or early next year. I am pretty excited cause I will be using just about your whole line.... Carnage, Citruvol, Cordygen VO2 and Rag on weight lifting days. Green Mag will be used on off days. I didn't think it was needed to be cycled but I will give it so time off maybe a few weeks here and there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Millennium 1 View Post
    Not in my opinion unless you take them for so long that they feel as if the effects are waning. If that happens for some reason then take a short break before resuming.
    I agree with the idea of cycling supps when their effectiveness starts to lessen. I'm currently cycling off creatine and BA, and although some don't agree with cycling I feel when I hit the gym again while cycling back on I should break through any stagnancy.
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