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    so what's everyone eager for?!


    While I can't divulge into anything being worked on for release right now at camp MST...what are some things you'd like to see from us in the future?
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    Electrolytes...or do you guys already have this? lol
    Aminos...wait...creatine....ok so you guys have something for everything i use other then alcar and lclt lol
    OH! how about a BA fish oil
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    A nootropic/focus stim free supplement without creatine. Basically like a creatine and stim free ragnarok...oh how wonderful that would be for late afternoon uni classes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    A nootropic/focus stim free supplement without creatine. Basically like a creatine and stim free ragnarok...oh how wonderful that would be for late afternoon uni classes...
    These would be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    These would be nice.
    For the Win with adaptogenic herbs and some
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    A nootropic/focus stim free supplement without creatine. Basically like a creatine and stim free ragnarok...oh how wonderful that would be for late afternoon uni classes...
    stim free and creatine free = citruvol
    you could always add in a nootropic.
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    Hmm, let's see.

    • I'd like to see BA and/or CM added to RPG, either, especially both, would make it a fantastic formula. A separate formula could be released, could be called RPG Ultra
    • Even though you guys already have Enzy-M, it would be nice to see a probiotic as well.
    • A product combining many different endurance geared ingredients would be cool, such as malic acid, beta alanine, cordyceps, nitrates etc. etc.
    • While you guys already have CLomega, it would also be nice to see an omega-3 high EPA/DHA fish oil.
    • On the same level, it would be nice to see a higher tier multi, that included other complexes, the ones that were initially left out.
    • Two other formulas/products that I would like to see, would be a properly dosed joint formula, along with a test-booster.
    • One more thing that is not necessarily a product that would be awesome, would be larger bottles, containing at least 2x as many caps.


    That's all I have for now, about to eat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bnatural
    stim free and creatine free = citruvol
    you could always add in a nootropic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanp81
    I know what's in the works and I'm not saying a word......everyone here will dig it, trust me.
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    A couple more:
    • A carnitine product, which contains multiple analogs of said carnitine, such as (N)ALCAR, LCLT, PLCAR etc. etc. would be pretty cool, as along is they were in sufficient doses.
    • Anyways, I think a protein from MST would be cool, and while the profit margins are slim, especially with the rising prices of protein, I feel that MST could take a shot at making a solid fruit flavored protein, something that is hard(er) to come by than run of the mill chocolate, vanilla, etc.
    • Possibly a product that combines TTA, ArA (AA), sesamin (possibly), GMS, forskolin (possibly), and LCLT.

    lawl, will think of more later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    A nootropic/focus stim free supplement without creatine. Basically like a creatine and stim free ragnarok...oh how wonderful that would be for late afternoon uni classes...
    good call man. I think a lot of people would agree with you here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDMMA View Post
    Hmm, let's see.

    I'd like to see BA and/or CM added to RPG, either, especially both, would make it a fantastic formula. A separate formula could be released, could be called RPG Ultra
    Even though you guys already have Enzy-M, it would be nice to see a probiotic as well.
    A product combining many different endurance geared ingredients would be cool, such as malic acid, beta alanine, cordyceps, nitrates etc. etc.
    While you guys already have CLomega, it would also be nice to see an omega-3 high EPA/DHA fish oil.
    On the same level, it would be nice to see a higher tier multi, that included other complexes, the ones that were initially left out.
    Two other formulas/products that I would like to see, would be a properly dosed joint formula, along with a test-booster.
    One more thing that is not necessarily a product that would be awesome, would be larger bottles, containing at least 2x as many caps.

    That's all I have for now, about to eat.
    Thanks for the suggestions. I personally feel like mvp when taken in conjunction with zmk is strong enough for anyone reading these forums. I mean, realistically, if there are top tier division I athletes (which there are), professional triathalon competitors, and professional athletes from various different sports using this combination...it's highly unlikely anyone on these forums is pushing themselves at a stronger rate and needs something with any items left out.

    I'm also not sure why you'd like to see another fish oil product that would ***** CLOmega? If you could explain to help me out that would be good so I can field that better.

    Im sure plenty would agree with you on the joint formula as well as the test booster.

    and as far as the 2x size bottles go, we actually tried that for a long time with C-V02 and some other products and they sat on the shelves at NP and other companies because people would say they couldn't afford to spend that much at one time
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTDeuce View Post
    Thanks for the suggestions. I personally feel like mvp when taken in conjunction with zmk is strong enough for anyone reading these forums. I mean, realistically, if there are top tier division I athletes (which there are), professional triathalon competitors, and professional athletes from various different sports using this combination...it's highly unlikely anyone on these forums is pushing themselves at a stronger rate and needs something with any items left out.

    I'm also not sure why you'd like to see another fish oil product that would ***** CLOmega? If you could explain to help me out that would be good so I can field that better.

    Im sure plenty would agree with you on the joint formula as well as the test booster.

    and as far as the 2x size bottles go, we actually tried that for a long time with C-V02 and some other products and they sat on the shelves at NP and other companies because people would say they couldn't afford to spend that much at one time
    Oh, I'm in no way saying either the multi or the mineral formula is weak in anyway, just when reading the write-up/FAQ I noticed that other complexes that could have been added to MVP, such as a joint blend, didn't make the cut. I was just saying that it would be cool to see an additional multi that included said complexes.

    Same goes for the omega-3 recommendation. In no way was I knocking CLOmega, I was just suggesting a omega-3 specific product, opposed to three EFA's.

    In regards to the bigger bottles, that is very unfortunate, it was worth a shot though.

    One more idea that I slept on, initially I did not agree with runner's idea (with Focus XT on the market), however, after some thought, I too agree that another nootropic blend would be great to see, additionally, it would be nice to see some more nootropics added to RagNOrock, in light of the glucoro, and dmae that were taken out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDMMA

    Oh, I'm in no way saying either the multi or the mineral formula is weak in anyway, just when reading the write-up/FAQ I noticed that other complexes that could have been added to MVP, such as a joint blend, didn't make the cut. I was just saying that it would be cool to see an additional multi that included said complexes.

    Same goes for the omega-3 recommendation. In no way was I knocking CLOmega, I was just suggesting a omega-3 specific product, opposed to three EFA's.

    In regards to the bigger bottles, that is very unfortunate, it was worth a shot though.

    One more idea that I slept on, initially I did not agree with runner's idea (with Focus XT on the market), however, after some thought, I too agree that another nootropic blend would be great to see, additionally, it would be nice to see some more nootropics added to RagNOrock, in light of the glucoro, and dmae that were taken out.
    A nootropic would be good. Wasn't suggesting like focus XT but more along a rag type with ALCAR or some carnitines form in it and drop the dmae and gluc yeah
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    A nootropic would be good. Wasn't suggesting like focus XT but more along a rag type with ALCAR or some carnitines form in it and drop the dmae and gluc yeah
    Ahh I see.

    And I wasn't recommending the removal of the glucuro, or the DMAE, I'm actually more disappointed that they have already been removed.
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    Oh ok.
    Gluc gives me energy.
    ALCAR and PLCAR for mood and cognition. And some rhodiola, ashwangha, maca or suma root for test all in one. Wow
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Oh ok.
    Gluc gives me energy.
    ALCAR and PLCAR for mood and cognition. And some rhodiola, ashwangha, maca or suma root for test all in one. Wow
    It would be nice to see it re-added, along with the DMAE. ALCAR and PLCAR would both be great additions, as would LCLT. Some other nootropics that I would like to see added, would be tyrosine, CDP choline/alpha-GPC, huperzine a, vinpocetine, and even sulbutiamine. If there's any chance a -racetam could be added, that would be insane!

    I'm really impartial to adding a "t-booster" complex, only because there are a number of people that would not like to see this addition (myself included, would rather not see one in a pre). Though, those three ingredients wouldn't be all too significant.
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    Alright, got a few more ideas lol

    • I personally think a carb supplement from MST would be great. I don't need to get into detail here, just throwing the idea out there.
    • Referring back to my "endurance" product, I was thinking, it could be like the Hemavol of endurance products. Because lets be real here, Hemavol is easily one of, if not the best pump product on the market, not to mention all of the other benefits that come along with the pumps.
    • Another thought as to RagNOrock, are the forms of creatine used. I'm sure the Di-sodium creatine phosphate (which may be used for the 'electrolyte' aspect), and creatine gluconate are both used to ensure rapid PCr muscle saturation, but I believe they could be swapped out for other forms, such as (di)creatine malate, creatine nitrate, or simply more MCC. Something else that would be nice to see, would be a heftier dose of MB12. COP is another promising ingredient that would be another great addition.
    • Finally, on a slightly different note, I would love it if MST un-propped their blends
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    the blends are broken down more than most other prop blends you see out there.

    i like the product suggestions, and you'll be happy with the additions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bnatural View Post
    the blends are broken down more than most other prop blends you see out there.

    i like the product suggestions, and you'll be happy with the additions
    Sounds good, stoked to see what comes out of MST!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDMMA View Post
    [*]Referring back to my "endurance" product, I was thinking, it could be like the Hemavol of endurance products. Because lets be real here, Hemavol is easily one of, if not the best pump product on the market, not to mention all of the other benefits that come along with the pumps.[/list]
    with ABSOLUTELY no bias whatsoever, I can honestly say that using Nitroceps in conjunction with Cre-02 gives me better and longer lasting pumps than hemavol ever did. I am obviously just one person but if you ever have a few bucks to spend and want to give it a shot, dose both of them 45 mins pre w/o and see what happens
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTDeuce View Post
    with ABSOLUTELY no bias whatsoever, I can honestly say that using Nitroceps in conjunction with Cre-02 gives me better and longer lasting pumps than hemavol ever did. I am obviously just one person but if you ever have a few bucks to spend and want to give it a shot, dose both of them 45 mins pre w/o and see what happens
    Cvol with Cre02 does a bang up job for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTDeuce View Post
    with ABSOLUTELY no bias whatsoever, I can honestly say that using Nitroceps in conjunction with Cre-02 gives me better and longer lasting pumps than hemavol ever did. I am obviously just one person but if you ever have a few bucks to spend and want to give it a shot, dose both of them 45 mins pre w/o and see what happens
    Really? Hemavol is a strong, pump-heavy, product. That's very strange, I was expecting you to at least say Citruvol, but I guess not :/

    Maybe you just react well with arginine
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    I would like to see a protein mix with an RPG or Rag flavor. If I have a long day ahead I like to make my own sports drink with almost all MST products.

    20oz bottle
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    I love it how it work but the ISO-Pure just tastes bad. 6 hours at a hard effort with no bonk. If needed I'll mix the second bottle twice as strong and divide it once I use up the first bottle and get a chance to top off at a water stop. I'll throw in some coconut water on the really hot days. I was a huge Accelerade fan until I found MST and ISO-Pure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TMCCLUNG
    I love it how it work but the ISO-Pure just tastes bad. 6 hours at a hard effort with no bonk. If needed I'll mix the second bottle twice as strong and divide it once I use up the first bottle and get a chance to top off at a water stop. I'll throw in some coconut water on the really hot days. I was a huge Accelerade fan until I found MST and ISO-Pure.
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