I was using Novarel past 60, close to 80 days, with out seeing my testicles shrink.
After finding a study, I did my own study, bottom of post #62
Jan's BloodTest April13/2007
I am using now 380iu E2D, every other day.
My testicles are full.
I am using HCG since about Feb 07, previously I was not able to get a script, my testicles were shrunk to nothing for few years.
When handling vial wiht HCG I try to minimize time and contact area.
I put my Novarel to refrigirator first do the shot latter.