Black Circles under eyes......... - AnabolicMinds.com

Black Circles under eyes.........

  1. spinn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    633
    Rep Power
    430

    Reputation

    Black Circles under eyes.........


    When I feel my worst....I often have black circles under my eyes.

    They look like Bill Clinton's eyes when he was lying about Monica Lewinski.

    What does this indicate and how can I correct or prevent this?

    I am not worried about the aesthetics of this....I just want to know what my body is trying to tell me.

  2. bombBoogie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Age
    32
    Posts
    649
    Rep Power
    418

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by spinn View Post
    When I feel my worst....I often have black circles under my eyes.

    They look like Bill Clinton's eyes when he was lying about Monica Lewinski.

    What does this indicate and how can I correct or prevent this?

    I am not worried about the aesthetics of this....I just want to know what my body is trying to tell me.
    I was thinking about posting the same question, I too want to know.
  3. Menacer's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    82
    Rep Power
    144

    Reputation

    get some sleep?
    •   
       

  4. bombBoogie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Age
    32
    Posts
    649
    Rep Power
    418

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by Menacer View Post
    get some sleep?
    For me that is not the problem, I aim for 8 hours min. I tried even sleeping 10 hours + for 2 weeks in the past. It does not work, at least for me.
  5. Megazoid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    137
    Rep Power
    165

    Reputation

    I believe the dark circles are a sign of adrenal fatigue (if i recall correct). It might be worth getting some cortisol + DHEA tests ran.
  6. bioman's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  180 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Age
    42
    Posts
    7,697
    Rep Power
    513131

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Good antioxidants also seem to help a little. I've had the dark circles since I was a little kid and have heard several explanations for their cause..adrenals, toxins in the lymph system et cetera...but I'd like to know the truth.
  7. rick055's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    567
    Rep Power
    371

    Reputation

    This won't do anything for the cause, but I've used a product called Teamine and my circles are gone, as is much of the puffiness around my eyes.

    You can find it the cheapest on Ebay.
  8. 2fresh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    182
    Rep Power
    195

    Reputation

    It could prob be a combo with fatigue and a lack of sleep. Reset A.D. would be good for adrenal function and try getting more solid sleep with some gaba and melatonin. It's just an idea that came to me but let's try it
  9. RPHMark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    187
    Rep Power
    184

    Reputation

    There is at least some connection with allergies as well. I've had them since I was a kid too. Better at some times, worse at others but never gone.
  10. spinn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    633
    Rep Power
    430

    Reputation

    With me...its not lack of sleep.....although I have difficulty with that.

    It is adrenal fatigue....but I am wondering what my body is signaling it is deficient in?
  11. thesinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    10,063
    Rep Power
    11889

    Reputation

    These circles are kinda like a bruise: it's essentially blood trapped in the tissue under your eye. I guess there's a prescription drug coming out now that can treat this.

    I would imagine getting some better sleep would be a better means ot going about this, but you know how the Big Pharm companies are: there's a damn chemical to 'fix' whatever ails you.
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
    IFFI
    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line
  12. jaydee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    315
    Rep Power
    255

    Reputation

    Ive been told this is from two things. One is poor liver function.....so toxins...and the other is shotty kidney function.
  13. JanSz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    4,631
    Rep Power
    2414

    Reputation

    My first thought is that drains are not working properly.


    Try lymph nodes drainage.


    I had a body massage done yesterday by my ostheopath doc.
    No extra charge.
    ------------------------------------

    Places like the one below may be expensive.
    Lymphatic Drainage
    http://www.intouchbodyworknyc.com/ly...FSCSQAod8h-J1A
  14. bioman's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  180 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Age
    42
    Posts
    7,697
    Rep Power
    513131

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Well, whatever the cause here's several things that have helped a little;

    for allergies..methyl B12, preferably injectible, pretty much cures my allergies and does reduce the circles a bit. A stuffy head definitely adds to the bags.

    Bio-C..vitamin C mixed with Rutin and/or citrus bioflavinoids to extend it''s halflife. Helps allergies and adrenals.

    for liver/kidney; Liv 52 and apple cider vinegar mixed with a packet or two of Emergen-C. Used daily, this not only gave me way more energy, reduced my circles but also made my chronic cystic acne all but disappear after 20 years of battling it. Since liver function is tied to everything..it makes sense.

    Low dose DHEA if you need it.
  15. jaydee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    315
    Rep Power
    255

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post

    for liver/kidney; Liv 52 and apple cider vinegar mixed with a packet or two of Emergen-C. Used daily, this not only gave me way more energy, reduced my circles but also made my chronic cystic acne all but disappear after 20 years of battling it. Since liver function is tied to everything..it makes sense.
    Yep, that doesnt surprise me at all. I would go a step further and get an FLDP to see HOW your liver really functions. If you get the phase 1 to phase 2 detoxification ratio right, it make a huge difference to your overall health. Everything from mental clarity, to energy, to how you metabolise drugs.

    You may need to go a step further again and look at gut bugs as well, since an imbalance in your intestinal tract can wreak havoc on your liver. Im talking bad bugs like Clostridium, Strep, Staph infections etc......Gut and liver go hand in hand.
  16. Al Shades's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    239
    Rep Power
    206

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by spinn View Post
    When I feel my worst....I often have black circles under my eyes.

    They look like Bill Clinton's eyes when he was lying about Monica Lewinski.

    What does this indicate and how can I correct or prevent this?

    I am not worried about the aesthetics of this....I just want to know what my body is trying to tell me.
    b6/b12 deficiency, for real

    Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    Well, whatever the cause here's several things that have helped a little;

    for allergies..methyl B12, preferably injectible, pretty much cures my allergies and does reduce the circles a bit. A stuffy head definitely adds to the bags.
    Boy, I envy you. Where are you getting your b12 injections? Chelation clinic?
  17. Al Shades's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    239
    Rep Power
    206

    Reputation

    miss
  18. xink's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  179 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    269
    Rep Power
    200

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    I guess there's a prescription drug coming out now that can treat this.
    Sorry to bump an old thread, but any info on this? My eyes are the worst... Always have been and it has nothing to do with sleep.
  19. thesinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    10,063
    Rep Power
    11889

    Reputation

    Shoot. I have no idea.

    I remember this thread. I had heard a drug being advertised on the radio for this purpose. It's possible that the product never caught on. The biggest market drivers for such a drug are women. They just wear make-up. So expensive drug that your health insurance may or may not cover, and posses the risk of a bunch of things that are way horrible than the ailment said drug is designed to remedy (as with all drugs), or the make-up that's already in your purse?
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
    IFFI
    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line
  20. HurtinPounds's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    107
    Rep Power
    114

    Reputation

    Bill Clinton has rosacea.
  21. DAdams91982's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Age
    32
    Posts
    7,407
    Rep Power
    700731

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    There are numerous causes for dark circles, and one of the prevailing reasons is genetics.

    Also, the mayo clinic says there are few remedies to dark circle stating makeup and laser surgery as the only true remedies

    Here is a list from Wrong Diagnosis
    Causes of Dark circles under eyes:

    The following medical conditions are some of the possible causes of Dark circles under eyes. There are likely to be other possible causes, so ask your doctor about your symptoms.

    * Persistent eye rubbing
    * Sleep difficulty - see the many causes of sleep difficulty symptoms (e.g. stress, depression, sleep disorders, etc.).
    * Allergies
    o Hay fever
    o Allergic shiners
    o Dust allergy
    o Mold allergy
    o Eczema - i.e. eczema in the skin under the eyes.
    * Pallor - the paleness of the skin may accentuate the dark rings.
    * Inherited eye blood vessel condition - dark circles under the eyes run in families.
    * Aging
    * Dehydration
    * Lack of sleep
    * Nasal congestion
    * Black eye due to trauma
    * Frequent eye rubbing
    * Phenol sulfotransferase deficiency
    * Inherited trait
    The Historic PES Legend
  22. spinn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    633
    Rep Power
    430

    Reputation

    Thanks guys, but it turns out I had lyme disease for 30 years. All of the doctors I saw said I was lazy and lacked ambition. The only doctor who made an effort to cure it did in 3 months. I still have the circles, probably from stress lowering liver function.
  23. diesiel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    20
    Rep Power
    77

    Reputation

    spinn, is your lyme now cured? whats the difference in your symptoms? is it great?
  24. spinn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    633
    Rep Power
    430

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by diesiel View Post
    spinn, is your lyme now cured? whats the difference in your symptoms? is it great?
    Yes, I believe I am cured. I have lost about fifty pounds due to finally being healthy. The problem is, conventional drs will not treat lyme, or even properly test for it, very long story there. I feel ok but under a lot of stress from drs taking over $200,000 from me over the years, very frustrating.
  25. diesiel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    20
    Rep Power
    77

    Reputation

    Any permanent damage done? How severe was your case?
  26. bioman's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  180 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Age
    42
    Posts
    7,697
    Rep Power
    513131

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Glad you're better, Spinn. Lyme is the worst there is for being misdiagnosed. You may have listened to an NPR special that aired last year about the subject...very informative.
  27. spinn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    633
    Rep Power
    430

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by diesiel View Post
    Any permanent damage done? How severe was your case?

    Very severe, I had a stroke, no idea how severe that damage is, or was.
  28. HurtinPounds's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    107
    Rep Power
    114

    Reputation

    What area of the Country are you from? I take it not Connecticut or Upstate NY (doctors there should be well advanced in treating lyme)?
  29. RoadBlocK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    3,210
    Rep Power
    82880

    Reputation Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by spinn View Post
    Thanks guys, but it turns out I had lyme disease for 30 years. All of the doctors I saw said I was lazy and lacked ambition. The only doctor who made an effort to cure it did in 3 months. I still have the circles, probably from stress lowering liver function.
    WOW. WTH. How come they wouldnt test you for it? And how did you figure it out?
    PHF Anabolic Trinity Epistane, Trenavar, and Mentabolan - Available Now!!
    Celtic Labs-Trestobol, HaloMass, Celitren, Ostabal and more Available Now!!
    PHF Rep/Celtic labs

  30. spinn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    633
    Rep Power
    430

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by RoadBlocK View Post
    WOW. WTH. How come they wouldnt test you for it? And how did you figure it out?
    I am in Washington, DC and have a naturalpathic dr who cured me. There is a huge controversy surrounding lyme. Conventional drs will not treat it because they are told it does not exist in chronic form. They were even sued by the ct attorney general http://www.ct.gov/ag/cwp/view.asp?a=2795&q=414284

    as it stands now, if you get lyme and see a conventional dr, you will either die or commutt suicide which is actually very common http://www.lyme-disease-research-dat...yme-story.html
  31. Young Gotti's Avatar
    Stats
    5'5"  100 lbs.
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    5,380
    Rep Power
    986723

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    i always thought the bags were from lack of sleep/ low iron....almost like ppl with low iron that bruise easily...don't know where i heard taht from....but i actually bought some CVS brand roller pen for under my eyes, it works really good, my g/f actually has made comments that the bags aren't nearly as bad or completely gone since i've been using it, my mother has them too which means it could be a genetic thing
  

  
 

Similar Forum Threads

  1. reducing "bags" under the eyes...
    By hvactech in forum Male Anti-Aging Medicine
    Replies: 41
    Last Post: 03-14-2012, 10:07 AM
  2. IMPORTANT!! Under 21 Read Before Posting!
    By bigpetefox in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 08-27-2008, 10:34 AM
  3. Leviathin: No dark circles under eyes!
    By ptrkntc in forum Supplement Logs
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 07-02-2007, 01:26 PM
  4. crock pot beef and black eyed peas
    By AnonyMoose in forum Recipes
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-25-2007, 01:27 PM
  5. Reps Under the Microscope
    By YellowJacket in forum Exercise Science
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 02-25-2003, 04:13 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Log in
Log in