Irritablility and Androgel

[guyfromkop2]

so i've been on 4 pumps a day of androgel and 1mg of arimidex mon,wed,fri for 2 weeks now. has anyone else noticed irritability? i've noticed my fuse has gotten a lot shorter and things that normally didnt bother me are starting to bother me more lately. has anyone else noticed this?

 

[JanSz]

so i've been on 4 pumps a day of androgel and 1mg of arimidex mon,wed,fri for 2 weeks now. has anyone else noticed irritability? i've noticed my fuse has gotten a lot shorter and things that normally didnt bother me are starting to bother me more lately. has anyone else noticed this?

Looks like a nice road to hell.

Not enough Androgel.
Too much Arimidex.
No support for testis.
No knowledge of condition of other major parts of your body

As for good news;
You have got someone writting you scripts for Androgel and Arimidex (super big ++)

Androgel is the best but Depo-T shots are better.
There is nothing else in between (my opinion).
If you can convince your doctor to:
1. write scripts for any blood test that you will ask
2. write script for hcg
3. possibly change to Depo-T
3. write scripts for (possibly Armour, Cortef)

you may get help here on how to proceed.

Better way would be if you could:
get doctor who knows what he is doing
or
get help from Dr John (MI) or Dr Shippen (PA) or Dr Marianco (CA)
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Do not be upset, most people on this board (including me) are not able to find expert doctor.
Some have cooperative doctors (I am in that group).

 

[guyfromkop2]

this doctor actually specializes in hormone therapy and has been practicing for 30+ years, 10 of which are for hormone replacement therapy. He has studied with experts in this field throughout the United States and Europe. He is a member of The Andropause Society, The International Institute of Sexuality, International Institute for Impotency, The American Association of Sex Educators, Counselors, and Therapists, Diplomate of the American Board of Sexology, Member of the American College for the Advancement of Medicine, and The American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine. so needless to say i dont doubt his recommendations. he said if the gel doesnt work then i'll be put on injections. i go back to see him at the end of july.

 

[JanSz]

this doctor actually specializes in hormone therapy and has been practicing for 30+ years, 10 of which are for hormone replacement therapy. He has studied with experts in this field throughout the United States and Europe. He is a member of The Andropause Society, The International Institute of Sexuality, International Institute for Impotency, The American Association of Sex Educators, Counselors, and Therapists, Diplomate of the American Board of Sexology, Member of the American College for the Advancement of Medicine, and The American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine. so needless to say i dont doubt his recommendations. he said if the gel doesnt work then i'll be put on injections. i go back to see him at the end of july.

Possibly you want to change something in your first post.
Possibly there are some reasons that you omited.
Without them I repeat firts part of my post:

Quote:
Looks like a nice road to hell.

Not enough Androgel.
Too much Arimidex.
No support for testis.
No knowledge of condition of other major parts of your body
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I have been screwed by head of department of sexuology in large hospital in Manhattan NY.
Wonder if your doctor and mine are the same person.
Heavily educated, heavily recomended, good expert all the way around.
His name starts with Mu*****

 

[pmgamer18]

JanSz you are on the money not enough Gel and his E2 must be way to low. Why post if you don't want to here the truth. Get your E2 and TT tested you will see.

Possibly you want to change something in your first post.
Possibly there are some reasons that you omited.
Without them I repeat firts part of my post:

Quote:
Looks like a nice road to hell.

Not enough Androgel.
Too much Arimidex.
No support for testis.
No knowledge of condition of other major parts of your body
======================================================
I have been screwed by head of department of sexuology in large hospital in Manhattan NY.
Wonder if your doctor and mine are the same person.
Heavily educated, heavily recomended, good expert all the way around.
His name starts with Mu*****

 

[JanSz]

JanSz you are on the money not enough Gel and his E2 must be way to low. Why post if you don't want to here the truth. Get your E2 and TT tested you will see.

Actually I understand him.
Hi is on begining of his learning curve.

 

[GRIMNURUK]

I'd listen to these guys. My irritability was from having too little T and went away with proper T (and E) levels not the other way around.

 

[guyfromkop2]

Possibly you want to change something in your first post.
Possibly there are some reasons that you omited.
Without them I repeat firts part of my post:

Quote:
Looks like a nice road to hell.

Not enough Androgel.
Too much Arimidex.
No support for testis.
No knowledge of condition of other major parts of your body
======================================================
I have been screwed by head of department of sexuology in large hospital in Manhattan NY.
Wonder if your doctor and mine are the same person.
Heavily educated, heavily recomended, good expert all the way around.
His name starts with Mu*****

no i'm from outside of philly

 

[JanSz]

no i'm from outside of philly

Just look at your doctor's limitations, he have to stay with these limitations, unless you are on some kind of research program.

These are his guidelines;
GUIDELINE TITLE
Testosterone therapy in adult men with androgen deficiency syndromes: an Endocrine Society clinical practice guideline.


http://www.guideline.gov/summary/summary.aspx?doc_id=9420&nbr=5041

1. Infrequent, and mostly too small amount of testosterone
2. No mention of estrogens
3. tunel vision, there are other systems in the body that usually need attention.
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My case, same hospital different doctor.
I have a (removed) cancer, carcinoma in left thigh.

When I tried to discuss my treatment, he wipped out a chart.
Told me where I am on that chart, no more discussion.
Everything done in extremely polite (and efficient) manner.
They have database of about 10000 cases, do statistical analysis, very impressive.
I am still dancing, he saved my leg, no complains.
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Androgen deficiency syndrome is cutting edge.
Actually I do not even like to say androgen deficiency,
anti-aging more like it.

Unfortunately, I do not like what I hear about anti-aging clinics either.
From the few posts of people who went there:
no cutting edge information
cookie cutter approach
minimal testing
way out of line prices for so little investigation.

Hovewer anti-aging as a general approach is more appealing to me.

At the moment
Dr John
Dr Shippen
Dr Marianco
are the cat's meow.

 

[guyfromkop2]

i trust my doctor, i'm a good read of character and he's been in the business for a while and explains everything to me. very helpful when other's weren't. i'm sure he'll adjust when i go see him in a couple weeks.