- 06-03-2007, 02:43 AM
i have heard that in the US you can go to anti-aging clinics to get treated with testosterone and/or growth hormone.
can anyone tell me how a treatment like this is done?
what doses are used?
and how often?
i found out tha the male body produces 3-11 mg. Test per day!
Do you need that number to calculate what doses to use?
in my country clinics like that are not legal, but maybe you could "treat" yourself when you get old if you know the approximate doses?
i hope someone can help me with theese questions.
i am mainly just curious since im "only" 33 atm.
thank you in advance.
- 06-03-2007, 08:48 AM
Some clinics in the US are good, many are just scams though. Even some will argue that the legitamate ones do not treat using the same protocols are others.
- 06-03-2007, 09:29 AM
06-03-2007, 09:43 AM
1. do really good blood test (once a year)
2. make corrections to what is out of line
3. test again, 2 - 4 times per year but much less items
4. tweak what needs to be tweaked
Read this and other boards.
The Life Extension Foundation: Disease Prevention And Treatment Protocols
you are going to jump at this one
Male Hormone Restoration: Online References For Health Concerns
but do not overlook many others that are there.
get a doctor that will write you scripts for blood test and medications, that doctor do not have to have big interest in this type of prevention medicine, hi just helps you with scripts and hold your hand whe you would like to try somenthing real stupid. Very little guarantee on second part as some people are reporting really strange treatments.
This is what I do.
If you are planning for a future, it is excellent move, get good blood test so you will have a baseline.
My test you can find in attachment to post #1 in theread here:
Jan's BloodTest April13/2007
Before you attempt that test do more research and post here results, I am sure it can be improved.
Be carefull with GH, use small amouts only.
Have you had in family somebody with cancer.
Some cancers love GH.
I have a cancer, liposarcome, cant use GH
when transdermal, very individula depends on a skin
when injections, start with 100mg/week, but do that as every 3 or 2 days, so individual dose woud be
E3D dose = 0.5/7*3=0.214mL=0.214cc=21marks on insuline syringe, '=0.21/3*7*200=98
E2D dose = 0.5/7*2=0.143mL=0.143cc=14marks on insuline syringe, '=0.14/2*7*200=98
Doing this you really have to check more than just T.
Minimum check (all) estrogens, but you will hear mostly about E2.
Actually to do it more properly, start in this sequence
Many guys are here because of use of steroids, that should tell you something.
Many are not (me) and just deal with life.
06-03-2007, 01:02 PM
1- Laws and practices very by state. Quite restrictive in many places.
2- You need to have low T to need treatment. Otherwise the docs are pushing drugs.
3- Money is involved. Internet clinics bundle the drugs, consults and bloodwork fees. The costs will be higher than a local doctor you does the care and provides you with a script.
3- In some states, getting GH is extremely difficult.
06-03-2007, 11:47 PM
thx for you input guys, i have some reading to do i see.
the test are harder to get in my country than the drugs.
we have free medicare, so only the nessesary tests are done.
you cant pay to get any tests u like
thx very much
06-03-2007, 11:55 PM
yea my buddy does that..so i had a meeting with one of the guys from the clinic,thinking i can get me some prescription gh,and test ...basicly unless your over 30 they wont even consider it...oh well
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06-04-2007, 09:42 AM
Blood testing, the big one, is done once or once a year, then 2-4 times more targetted blood work.
Possibly you could travel (once) to more friendly country just for a blood test. Then do the smaller tests at home.
Somebody please post names of friendly countries.
If that interest you, possibly we can get more detailed info on this.
Lab names, phone ##'s, address, acceptable nearby hotels.
Other travel info.
Recently there was article on supplements in Thailand and that some body builders spend time there,
they must have blood testing there too.
Other people go there for elective surgeries, good place to start searching.
There is a whole industry going there around inexpensive medical service.
Testosterone Nation - The Thailand Trilogy - Part I
Testosterone Nation - The Thailand Trilogy - Part II
Testosterone Nation - The Thailand Trilogy - Part III
Testosterone Nation - Thailand & Steroids
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Create new thread there, state your problem and ask to be send to proper board.
You may want to do it week latter if you do not get good response first time.
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Retired (and working) people live abroad (of USA) and share all kind of information that makes life easier.
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Do not know now, but I was in Brazil 79/80, there was sex changing going big time in Rio.
Mostly male to female.
You had to really watch out when seeing beatifull naked woman walking during carnival.
I would imagine that getting good blood work should not be a problem there.
(I was there for different reasons, with a wife and two kids, came back with all in tac)
06-04-2007, 12:25 PM
thx for the links my friend.
im danish by the way
retorical question: if i get a partial sex-change, can i then f*** myself? hehe
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