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    Whenever I take an AI....


    ....whether it be 6OXO, Rebound Reloaded, Formestane, etc...I get all the positive results such as leaning out, alpha male attitude, increased Libido and testicule size, and so on.......BUT it's crazy hard to reach ejaculation!!!

    Any suggestions what might be causing this?

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    Just thinking...high progesterone?...vitex will help maybe?
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    I've had this side effect when I was first prescribed Viagra. But I'm not sure what causes it. I would love to hear Dr John's thought on having difficulty reaching orgasm for men.
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    It's wierd I know, ejaculatory volume decreases too now that I think of it......but overall desire and erection strength good.

    I am researching as I speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordeen View Post
    ....whether it be 6OXO, Rebound Reloaded, Formestane, etc...I get all the positive results such as leaning out, alpha male attitude, increased Libido and testicule size, and so on.......BUT it's crazy hard to reach ejaculation!!!

    Any suggestions what might be causing this?
    I have those symtpoms when my E2 goes to low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coz View Post
    I have those symtpoms when my E2 goes to low.

    Really...any idea how to raise my E2?...add something that aromatizes perhaps?...DHEA?
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    that is weird because other AI's kill libido like ATD.

    I thought estrogen was a big part of positive libido....
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    that is weird because other AI's kill libido like ATD.

    I thought estrogen was a big part of positive libido....
    I've concluded that also...through trialing different dosages of ATD and even Rebound Reloaded....I am estrogen sensitive and too much suppression and my libido goes to the dumps....seems lower dosages of like 300mgs of 6OXO isn't as bad though.

    But reasoning may suggest that E2 may be too low even at that dosage....as mentioned above.

    Gonna look into this now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordeen View Post
    Just thinking...high progesterone?...vitex will help maybe?
    I you sure about progesterone being lowered by Vitex?
    I thought it was prolactin.
    Possibly both???
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanSz View Post
    I you sure about progesterone being lowered by Vitex?
    I thought it was prolactin.
    Possibly both???
    I am not sure about the progesterone lowering effects either...I am just going by opinions from the forum...some say it does and some say it doesn't...I was willing to trial it and see...maybe more research before I do...I know Dr.D is not crazy over the stuff.
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    Well in my case not reaching an orgsem was high E2 once I got it down I got morning wood back after over 35 yrs. of not having them and my ED go 80% better. I am 63 and have sex in one form or the other everyday. Am I trying to make up for lost time you bet. Not being able to have sex for 10 yrs. sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmgamer18 View Post
    Well in my case not reaching an orgsem was high E2 once I got it down I got morning wood back after over 35 yrs. of not having them and my ED go 80% better. I am 63 and have sex in one form or the other everyday. Am I trying to make up for lost time you bet. Not being able to have sex for 10 yrs. sucks.
    thats amazing.

    so you had high E2 for a long time before you figured it out and that was the cause of the problem?

    what did you do to fix that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanSz View Post
    I you sure about progesterone being lowered by Vitex?
    I thought it was prolactin.
    Possibly both???
    Possibly both.

    From t-nation.com

    "Vitex also works as [a Luteinizing-hormone secretagogue], but it also acts as an anti-progesterone and anti-prolactin agent, lowering progesterone and prolactin. Progesterone and prolactin are particularly nasty hormones, in that they cause ? much more than estrogen ? storage of body fat and mental depression. Prolactin can even cause lactation in men. And, by lowering progesterone and prolactin ? just like lowering estrogen ? you'll increase Testosterone through various feedback mechanisms."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordeen View Post
    Really...any idea how to raise my E2?...add something that aromatizes perhaps?...DHEA?
    DHEA would do the trick, so would T. DHEA is legal though. Its best to get it as a TD, although I have heard great things about a particular brand of DHEA oral. PM me for link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    that is weird because other AI's kill libido like ATD.

    I thought estrogen was a big part of positive libido....
    It is. Not just libido, but endothelial function, cholesterol, brain, heart, you name it.

    AI's for the most part, at least pharm grade ones, are usually unnecessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plymouth city View Post
    It is. Not just libido, but endothelial function, cholesterol, brain, heart, you name it.

    AI's for the most part, at least pharm grade ones, are usually unnecessary.

    So increase of estrogen increases cholesterol synthesis? i could use some increase of that LOL I always had low cholesterol ALL MY LIFE !! Would low estrogen drive ldl, and total cholesterol into the ground possible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardasnails1973 View Post
    So increase of estrogen increases cholesterol synthesis? i could use some increase of that LOL I always had low cholesterol ALL MY LIFE !! Would low estrogen drive ldl, and total cholesterol into the ground possible?
    Yes, driving E into the ground will seriously affect cholesterol production.

    Let us not forget the importance of cholesterol in our bodies.

    Cholesterol is the most important, king daddy of all the steroids. More than T/DHT/or any other. Cholesterol is the first building block to every steroid hormone in the body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    thats amazing.

    so you had high E2 for a long time before you figured it out and that was the cause of the problem?

    what did you do to fix that?
    At first I tried to get my Dr. to give me Arimidex my levels were over 90 and it was after my being on TRT for 10 yrs then the ED started at about age 50 I had to us a penis pump and a ring to keep my wife happy but no orgasm for me. I tyied 4 kinds of DIM then Evista, Tamoxifen then finely my Dr. gave me Arimidex we started at .5mgs every other day in 6 weeks my E2 did nothing so we tried .5mgs every day this did it and a lot of my health problems went away. My prostate even went down. I was having bad panic attacks gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plymouth city View Post
    DHEA would do the trick, so would T. DHEA is legal though. Its best to get it as a TD, although I have heard great things about a particular brand of DHEA oral. PM me for link.
    I suspect just using prescription pregnenolone cream 100mg/1gram, 1gram daily, may take care of pregnenolone and DHEA deficiency.
    I was taking large doses of pills (DHEA and Pregnenolone) for long time. My blood tests show me low on both of them.
    I changed to pregnenolone cream in 3/20/07, blood draw 4/13/07 show DHEA 3x over the range, unfortunately they skipped pregnenolone test.
    I dropped DHEA supplementation, will know more on my next test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmgamer18 View Post
    At first I tried to get my Dr. to give me Arimidex my levels were over 90 and it was after my being on TRT for 10 yrs then the ED started at about age 50 I had to us a penis pump and a ring to keep my wife happy but no orgasm for me. I tyied 4 kinds of DIM then Evista, Tamoxifen then finely my Dr. gave me Arimidex we started at .5mgs every other day in 6 weeks my E2 did nothing so we tried .5mgs every day this did it and a lot of my health problems went away. My prostate even went down. I was having bad panic attacks gone.
    thanks for the response. so it was just the arimidex?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. John View Post
    What is Vitex, and how does it affect progesterone?
    Vitex will do just the opposite but this is offcourse for a women

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    Well from what I have been finding I think DHEA 25-50mg morning and noon would up my overall estrogen in hopes of increasing libido. I am planning to integrate an AI along with a pulse cycle in the next couple of weeks, on Off days that is. Adding DHEA with the AI will hopefully keep cortisol low and support libido basing this on overall the feedback here on the forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordeen View Post
    Well from what I have been finding I think DHEA 25-50mg morning and noon would up my overall estrogen in hopes of increasing libido. I am planning to integrate an AI along with a pulse cycle in the next couple of weeks, on Off days that is. Adding DHEA with the AI will hopefully keep cortisol low and support libido basing this on overall the feedback here on the forums.
    Why not try primal performance sustained? or just a pregnenolone cream and let your body balance it self out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordeen View Post
    Well from what I have been finding I think DHEA 25-50mg morning and noon would up my overall estrogen in hopes of increasing libido. I am planning to integrate an AI along with a pulse cycle in the next couple of weeks, on Off days that is. Adding DHEA with the AI will hopefully keep cortisol low and support libido basing this on overall the feedback here on the forums.
    Dhea and an AI hmmm....sounds like it could work. i have never used DHEA personally kinda scares me as far as estrogen goes but the AI added.......tell me if it works.
  

  
 

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