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  1. Quote Originally Posted by SoMdHunter View Post
    Just a quick update to my log. Strength in the gym has been very good lately. I can tell I'm slowly getting stronger, and now I'm starting to add a bit of muscle. This tells me the injections are impacting me in a positive way, but this dayum ED persists! The wife is very understanding, but I'm sure her patience isn't endless. I know mine isn't.
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  2. SoMDhunter,

    Hello, I just got done reading this whole thing. Took me almost an hour. Glad I do not have much work to do today, otherwise I would be way behind. Reading you post gave me a little hope and insite. I am 37, so I am probably close to the age all your problems started at. I am currently on Testim 10g a day and have been for 6mos. When I first started my T was at 411, no erections, no sex drive, low energy, fat gain ect. I am now at 528, I get morning erections pretty regular but not of great qaulity like a year ago. I still do not have much energy, still have a little depression and anxiety. I think most of my Ed problems are in my head now as I can get an erection by thinking of sex, but fail to perform when times comes. My sex drive is still low. I completely understand what you ment by you think about sex but do you really want it. I am the same way. I think about it all the time but I do not seem to have any drive to do anything about it. My next appt. is with an Endo on May 8th. I faxed them asking for lots of blood work before I come in, so we will see what happens. I am married with three kids and wife is in between jobs so I am also shy on the money end to go see Dr. John. Just thought it might help if you knew another one was in the same boat as you. I wish you luck and will follow your posts. I will let you know how my Endo appt went incase their is any info that may help you. Also I never read anything about your prolactin. I've heard this can kill your drive also. Have you had it checked?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by SufferingEd View Post
    SoMDhunter,

    Hello, I just got done reading this whole thing. Took me almost an hour. Glad I do not have much work to do today, otherwise I would be way behind. Reading you post gave me a little hope and insite. I am 37, so I am probably close to the age all your problems started at. I am currently on Testim 10g a day and have been for 6mos. When I first started my T was at 411, no erections, no sex drive, low energy, fat gain ect. I am now at 528, I get morning erections pretty regular but not of great qaulity like a year ago. I still do not have much energy, still have a little depression and anxiety. I think most of my Ed problems are in my head now as I can get an erection by thinking of sex, but fail to perform when times comes. My sex drive is still low. I completely understand what you ment by you think about sex but do you really want it. I am the same way. I think about it all the time but I do not seem to have any drive to do anything about it. My next appt. is with an Endo on May 8th. I faxed them asking for lots of blood work before I come in, so we will see what happens. I am married with three kids and wife is in between jobs so I am also shy on the money end to go see Dr. John. Just thought it might help if you knew another one was in the same boat as you. I wish you luck and will follow your posts. I will let you know how my Endo appt went incase their is any info that may help you. Also I never read anything about your prolactin. I've heard this can kill your drive also. Have you had it checked?
    SufferingED,

    You honor me by having read this whole thing. It does seem we are having the same problems. At least you are getting it done the right way, rather than having to go through what I did.

    The short of it is, no....I haven't had my prolactin checked. I see Dr. John early Jun and will do whatever tests he prescribes. I'm not trying to look like a professional bodybuilder, I just want my sex life back. I'm trusting he can help me.

    Thanks again for reading all this. Keep me posted on your results. Start a log so I can read along as well.

    SMH

  4. Hunter,

    That is a good idea. It does help me to write things down. I will think of a title and start one.

    You and your wife must really love each other to go over 8 months with out, and survive 10 years with little sex. That is great. Shows a marriage can survive with out sex. My wife says she understands and is willing to wait. She has a very high sex drive and she always use to joke around with me she could always go get it some where else if I would not give it to her. She was just joking, but still, once this happened it put unhappy thoughts to the brain, like how long is she willing to wait. We have not gone over three weeks yet, but we did go a couple of months twice when two of the kids were born. Lately I have been having really bad anxiety, plus I am actually starting to feel like I did six months aga when all this started. I need to stop pushing myself to have sex, relax and go see Endo on the 8th. You will probably see this again when I start my "log". Good luck and I will keep reading about your road to recovery.

  5. Yeah, I have a wonderful wife of 32 years. Since encountering this problem, we have had to, how shall I say, "improvise". There should be no embarrassment between husband and wife, so we used our imagination and have managed to deal with it. What used to be foreplay is now the main act so to speak.

    Good luck with the Dr. and I will be sure to follow your log!
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by SoMdHunter View Post
    Yeah, I have a wonderful wife of 32 years. Since encountering this problem, we have had to, how shall I say, "improvise". There should be no embarrassment between husband and wife, so we used our imagination and have managed to deal with it. What used to be foreplay is now the main act so to speak.

    Good luck with the Dr. and I will be sure to follow your log!
    32 years is a great accomplishment. Congradulations. I know what you mean by "improvising." I guess we have to make do with what we can and hope we gets this fixed. I keep telling my wife that once I get everything back in working order, she may end up wishing it was not wroking again. Good luck. I'll keep you posted.

  7. Well, last 2 sessions with the wife have again been a failure. By far I am expericencing a lack of sensation. I just can't "feel" her anymore. I don't expect any improvement, so I'll stop reporting on it.
    However, on a good note, I have had nocturnal erections for the last 2 nights. Now what is up with that??? I'm not complaining mind ya, but all of a sudden they start showing up? I just can't maintain it long enough to have sex. Man this is frustrating!

  8. June is when you see Dr J right? Just curious how far you traveling from....

    I'm startin on Compound Test Gel 5% as soon as it get here....prolly Monday

  9. Quote Originally Posted by SoMdHunter View Post
    Well, last 2 sessions with the wife have again been a failure. By far I am expericencing a lack of sensation. I just can't "feel" her anymore. I don't expect any improvement, so I'll stop reporting on it.
    However, on a good note, I have had nocturnal erections for the last 2 nights. Now what is up with that??? I'm not complaining mind ya, but all of a sudden they start showing up? I just can't maintain it long enough to have sex. Man this is frustrating!
    This is where I am at. I get the nighttime and morning erections, they are just not very strong and are usually gone pretty quick. Thank God wife is pretty supportive. I tend to let stupid thoughts enter my head about her finding a sex partner but they are just stupid thoughts. She is a big Sex and City fan. She jokes that she could always go buy "the Rabbit." Anyways good luck to you hunter. Hope your appt goes well in June.

  10. this just keeps getting better....

    your 50 and 480ng was "really low"

    im 30, and 332ng and apparently "normal"

  11. Quote Originally Posted by fit4life05 View Post
    June is when you see Dr J right? Just curious how far you traveling from....

    I'm startin on Compound Test Gel 5% as soon as it get here....prolly Monday
    I'm taking a flight from Baltimore to Detroit, then a connecting flight to Lansing. It is too far to drive and I got the tickets early enough I could afford them.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by SufferingEd View Post
    This is where I am at. I get the nighttime and morning erections, they are just not very strong and are usually gone pretty quick. Thank God wife is pretty supportive. I tend to let stupid thoughts enter my head about her finding a sex partner but they are just stupid thoughts. She is a big Sex and City fan. She jokes that she could always go buy "the Rabbit." Anyways good luck to you hunter. Hope your appt goes well in June.
    I feel for ya bro. IF she gets a "rabbit", you should join her and make it a lot of fun! Better yet, buy one for her and use it on her! That way she will know you aren't threatened by it.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by phatkid77 View Post
    this just keeps getting better....

    your 50 and 480ng was "really low"

    im 30, and 332ng and apparently "normal"
    332 is insanely low! I would be finding me a new Dr.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by SoMdHunter View Post
    I feel for ya bro. IF she gets a "rabbit", you should join her and make it a lot of fun! Better yet, buy one for her and use it on her! That way she will know you aren't threatened by it.
    It will diffenitely be an option if I do not get this fixed soon. Your right though, I would sure have a lot of fun using it even if I could not get something to rise. We will see how supportive she is this week. Our 9th anniversary is Wed. I'm sure she will try to seduce me, I just hope I will be able to accomadate her. I have been more irritable the last two weeks than usual. I am wondering if my E2 is high since my Testim has been increased twice since last labs. Only one week until my appt. If anything at least I will get some labs done to see where I am at.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by SufferingEd View Post
    It will diffenitely be an option if I do not get this fixed soon. Your right though, I would sure have a lot of fun using it even if I could not get something to rise. We will see how supportive she is this week. Our 9th anniversary is Wed. I'm sure she will try to seduce me, I just hope I will be able to accomadate her. I have been more irritable the last two weeks than usual. I am wondering if my E2 is high since my Testim has been increased twice since last labs. Only one week until my appt. If anything at least I will get some labs done to see where I am at.
    Just hang in there bro. It will get better!

  16. Quote Originally Posted by SoMdHunter View Post
    Just hang in there bro. It will get better!
    Yeh, I know it will, just sucks that it takes so long. Oh well. Hope your appt goes well. I will see where I am at on Tuesday. Good luck.

  17. Good luck, I just had more blood taken today and get to talk to the doc on tuesday too.

  18. Thanks....both of ya. I can hardly wait till I get to see Dr. John! Only got a month to go!

    Injections continue, and I'm finding new places to inject. I'm starting to get pretty good at this actually.

  19. Injection again tonight. A bit painful injecting. But the wife did it for me as we are trying a new spot. Seems my quads are no longer tolerating the injections. Even with a 25g, the pain is just too much.

    I'm also tired of feeling like crap, then feeling great for a couple of days after the injection, only to start feeling like crap again. This hormonal rollercoaster is just too much for me. So I'm going to split the dosage in half and go to twice a week injections. ED is still severe and libido is still in the toilet.....so what do I have to loose?

    I may reap the wrath of Dr. John when I see him, but I'm willing to take that chance.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by SoMdHunter View Post
    Injection again tonight. A bit painful injecting. But the wife did it for me as we are trying a new spot. Seems my quads are no longer tolerating the injections. Even with a 25g, the pain is just too much.

    I'm also tired of feeling like crap, then feeling great for a couple of days after the injection, only to start feeling like crap again. This hormonal rollercoaster is just too much for me. So I'm going to split the dosage in half and go to twice a week injections. ED is still severe and libido is still in the toilet.....so what do I have to loose?

    I may reap the wrath of Dr. John when I see him, but I'm willing to take that chance.
    I know what you mean. Last night I actually felt pretty good. I actually felt like if we tried something I might have some success. We did'nt as she and I were both tired (plus my sex drive just still isn't there) so we went to bed. This morning I wake up with anxiety attacks and a paranoa of not being able to have sex again. I wish I could get back to where I would just enjoy doing things like this--ose:

    Good luck. I've heard if your E2 is high and your T is low and the ratio between the two is really low then it can cause anxiety. any truth to this?

  21. Quote Originally Posted by SufferingEd View Post
    Good luck. I've heard if your E2 is high and your T is low and the ratio between the two is really low then it can cause anxiety. any truth to this?
    I'm not sure about anxiety. I would think that that would come from failing so many times, one comes to expect it and not look forward to sex.

    I do know I feel a bit of it because I have failed for such a long time, I guess I just expect to fail. I want to succeed, but until I know all my hormones are balanced, I just proceed on.

    I never would have thought something that used to be so very natural is now so freaking tough!

    On a good note though, I have some good news for Dr John, which I will discuss with him when I see him in early June. I've been experimenting with my dosage and seeing some improvement, but only temporary.

  22. Just an update to my log. I must admit I've been "tweaking" around with my dosage and delivery lately. One reason is the current protocal wasn't working and I was tired of feeling like crap. The other was to actually be able to provide Dr John with a bit more info in helping me.
    I may be on to something. For the last 3 nights I have woke up with terrific erections. I mean hard, stong firm ones you could hang a towel on!
    To make it even better, last night it seemed I kept an erection for most of the night. Unfortunately the wife and I have been just too busy to attempt sex. And the final icing on the cake is........I've not taken any Cialis in the last 5 days!
    To say the least, all this has really put me in a great mood. Libido is even higher than it has been in a years.
    There may be hope for me yet!

  23. Another person seeing great success after increasing inject schedule. This happens all of the time.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by SoMdHunter View Post
    Just an update to my log. I must admit I've been "tweaking" around with my dosage and delivery lately. One reason is the current protocal wasn't working and I was tired of feeling like crap. The other was to actually be able to provide Dr John with a bit more info in helping me.
    I may be on to something. For the last 3 nights I have woke up with terrific erections. I mean hard, stong firm ones you could hang a towel on!
    To make it even better, last night it seemed I kept an erection for most of the night. Unfortunately the wife and I have been just too busy to attempt sex. And the final icing on the cake is........I've not taken any Cialis in the last 5 days!
    To say the least, all this has really put me in a great mood. Libido is even higher than it has been in a years.
    There may be hope for me yet!
    I am having the same reactions but it is because of Cialis. After reading this I am going back to researching my insurance to find a doctor who will give me injectables. Good luck wtih Dr. John. I still may end up seeing him. Hopefully sooner than later.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by SufferingEd View Post
    I am having the same reactions but it is because of Cialis. After reading this I am going back to researching my insurance to find a doctor who will give me injectables. Good luck wtih Dr. John. I still may end up seeing him. Hopefully sooner than later.
    I'll keep ya posted bro. Unfortunately the erections seemed to have left me for the time being. I haven't changed a single thing, so it may be that I am just on the edge of being "balanced".

    Of interest though, I have also noticed I seem to get nighttime erections after doing legs. It may not mean much, but certainly worth telling Dr John about.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by SoMdHunter View Post
    I'll keep ya posted bro. Unfortunately the erections seemed to have left me for the time being. I haven't changed a single thing, so it may be that I am just on the edge of being "balanced".

    Of interest though, I have also noticed I seem to get nighttime erections after doing legs. It may not mean much, but certainly worth telling Dr John about.
    Good luck. I have been feeling a little better. I can actually tell a difference when I am on Cialis. I am not taking it this week becuase it is that time of the month for my wife. I actually felt better the two weeks I did take it than I do now. I am also taking Vitex to get my prolactin down. After doing some research I am going to take some ZMA at night, which should help with my workouts, sleep, and it should help increase T. I will get my blood work back on the 5th and see where my T levels are at. I may order some DIM just in case my E2 is high. I ahve three kids (toddlers) and the wife just started a job, so finances are tight. I have been feeling better tweaking myself with herb supp. So I will keep trying this for now. I hope all goes well for you when you Dr. John.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by SufferingEd View Post
    Good luck. I have been feeling a little better. I can actually tell a difference when I am on Cialis. I am not taking it this week becuase it is that time of the month for my wife. I actually felt better the two weeks I did take it than I do now. I am also taking Vitex to get my prolactin down. After doing some research I am going to take some ZMA at night, which should help with my workouts, sleep, and it should help increase T. I will get my blood work back on the 5th and see where my T levels are at. I may order some DIM just in case my E2 is high. I ahve three kids (toddlers) and the wife just started a job, so finances are tight. I have been feeling better tweaking myself with herb supp. So I will keep trying this for now. I hope all goes well for you when you Dr. John.
    I take 4-6 pills daily LEF DualAction (product containing DIM) and TMG.
    I do not believe it changes E2, but it works nicely adjusting estrogens overall. I have tests to draw this conclusion.
    My E2=27 on my oct06 and apr07 tests.
    But the other estrogens got much better in line while on DualAction.
    I thought of tweaking my E2 and started 0.25mL of Liquidex daily same as 1/4 pill Arimidex. By end of a week I had a problem completing sex. I stopped the liquidex, about week latter I am back to normal. Looks like I am good at my E2-27.
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    I am using Vitex, not sure when my next test is going to happen.
    Please post your before and after prolactin levels when you get them.
    Overal, must say, I do not feel anything different while on Vitex. I started Vitex with Prolactin=5.9(2.0-18.0), supposedly Dr Shippen likes it at 3.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by JanSz View Post
    I take 4-6 pills daily LEF DualAction (product containing DIM) and TMG.
    I do not believe it changes E2, but it works nicely adjusting estrogens overall. I have tests to draw this conclusion.
    My E2=27 on my oct06 and apr07 tests.
    But the other estrogens got much better in line while on DualAction.
    I thought of tweaking my E2 and started 0.25mL of Liquidex daily same as 1/4 pill Arimidex. By end of a week I had a problem completing sex. I stopped the liquidex, about week latter I am back to normal. Looks like I am good at my E2-27.
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    I am using Vitex, not sure when my next test is going to happen.
    Please post your before and after prolactin levels when you get them.
    Overal, must say, I do not feel anything different while on Vitex. I started Vitex with Prolactin=5.9(2.0-18.0), supposedly Dr Shippen likes it at 3.

    My last E2 was 23 so if it is still under 30 I may leave it alone. My last labs were back in Febuary with my E2 at 23 and my prolactin at 15. I went back to Endo a couple weeks ago. They are checking my E2, Free T, and total T. I wanted more tested like prolactin but they refused, hence why I am doing some of this stuff like Vitex on my own. I think it takes a while for the vitex to really kick in. Your are supposed to take two a day for the first six weeks, then down to one a day. I will have a physical in July. My general doctor has no problems running labs for other stuff as long as I ask. So I will check my prolactin at that time.

  29. Sounds like both of ya are getting things corrected. I took a Cialis on Monday, and woke up with an erection in the middle of the night, but I still can't finish with the wife. The erections just don't last long enough to orgasm. June 6th can't get here quick enough!

  30. Quote Originally Posted by SufferingEd View Post
    My last E2 was 23 so if it is still under 30 I may leave it alone. My last labs were back in Febuary with my E2 at 23 and my prolactin at 15. I went back to Endo a couple weeks ago. They are checking my E2, Free T, and total T. I wanted more tested like prolactin but they refused, hence why I am doing some of this stuff like Vitex on my own. I think it takes a while for the vitex to really kick in. Your are supposed to take two a day for the first six weeks, then down to one a day. I will have a physical in July. My general doctor has no problems running labs for other stuff as long as I ask. So I will check my prolactin at that time.
    Script for prolactin $41.25
    http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/itemLC004465.html
    Prolactin

    This test is used to assess inappropriate lactation, and is also useful in the detection of prolactin-secreting pituitary tumors. Elevated prolactin is associated with anovulation and amenorrhea. Prolactin can also be elevated in hypothyroidism when TSH is high.
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