Got ED but lab results are normal

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I god ED and PDE5 inhibitors do not work. I dont know what is wrong

This are my test results, my endocrinologist told me they are normal and does not see a reason for my ED

Testosterone 26.22 nmol/L 9.9 - 27.8
Free Testosteron 26.73 pg/mL 1 - 28.28
SHBG 31.58 nmol/L 14.5-48.4

FSH 3.44 mUI/mL 1.5 - 12.4
LH 7.42 mUI/mL 1.7 - 8.6
Estradiol 85.25 pmol/L 41.4 - 159
Prolactina 301.4 µUI/mL 98 - 456
TSH 2.65 µUI/mL 0.27 - 4.2
 
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Do you suffer with anxiety? Sex drive or ED isn't always hormones bro. Stress can be a major factor!
 

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No, I don't suffer from anxiety, even if I am alone can't get a good hard on
 
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... I don't know then, but if it's not hormones, it's probably all in your head and the more you stress, the worse it becomes. PDE5 inhibitors don't just give you a boner btw, without a sex drive they are useless for that. There must be some underlying issues
 

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I tried doing a restart no results, I tried HCG it was slightly better for a while. Milk thistle help the most while I was taking it but it was not reliable and all this time I was using the blue pill
 

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Your age? weight?
Are you taking any Medication? Drugs? Weed?
Alcohol use?
Phytoestrogens?
Do you have any illnesses, medical conditions? injuries?
What is your diet like?
What vitamins or supplements do you use?
Vitamin D3 levels?
 

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I am in the same boat as you! I've had that for quite some time. I was POSITIVE that I had Low T ..... but I got the test done...and supposedly I was pretty good. Which made NO sense.

Cialis did NOTHING for me ..... I then got Res Chem Sildenafil/Viagra. That worked alright... but at times it just wouldn't

It is FRUSTRATING as hell to say the LEAST. I know how you feel!

I remember a time when I'd take test boosters..... and wind up skipping my workouts because I had to "take care of things" lol . Now... pfft... .. none of that stuff seems to help
 

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One thing I was always concerned about...... I tried to pinpoint about when it started.....

And it started around the time Muscletech had Anotesten, Nortesten, and I believe one other thing. I used to use those a lot. And back then there was no knowledge about what any of these things were - unlike what we have now. There was no PCT etc ..... and I'm thinking that stuff f'd me up really bad.

BUT..... if that WERE the case....... I would think that I would have low T ....... ??? So maybe it isn't that
 
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I did not see any DHEA/DHEA-S test numbers. I know that DHEA helped me with this when I started on TRT last year. But as others have already stated, it is not always hormonal. There are many factors that could be responsible.
 

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I am 29 years old
A year ago I did a cycle of test depo and tren, and when the hair started to fall I took several pills of finasterid, I stopped the cycle and did PCT, everything was OK until 6 months ago when the ED started

I have not tested the DHEA

I don't take any drugs, I don't drink
 

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I am 29 years old
A year ago I did a cycle of test depo and tren, and when the hair started to fall I took several pills of finasterid, I stopped the cycle and did PCT, everything was OK until 6 months ago when the ED started

I have not tested the DHEA

I don't take any drugs, I don't drink
What's a few pills? Finasteride can be nasty nasty stuff for some people. Search "post-finasteride syndrome", I've seen some posts talking about as little as 2 weeks on and serious ongoing sides.
 

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I know now what finasterid can do but I got just ED and no other sintoms,If I could get erections like in my teens every thing would be perfect
 

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Your Estradiol is contributing to this. Run some Arimidex (.25 mg EOD for 3 weeks) or Aromasin (6.25 mg EOD) asap. It should be in the 20s. How long after the HCG were the blood tests? HCG can raise estradiol considerably. DHEA would be good to take as well (25 mg/day). D3 is a must (2,000 IUs daily) Also, your prolactin is high as well. You could take another drug to lower that but just stick with the AI for now. Were you running any gear lately?
 

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Your Estradiol is contributing to this. Run some Arimidex (.25 mg EOD for 3 weeks) or Aromasin (6.25 mg EOD) asap. It should be in the 20s. How long after the HCG were the blood tests? HCG can raise estradiol considerably. DHEA would be good to take as well (25 mg/day). D3 is a must (2,000 IUs daily) Also, your prolactin is high as well. You could take another drug to lower that but just stick with the AI for now. Were you running any gear lately?
His test for E2 was not the sensitive one with the range of 7.6 - 42.6 that Lab Corps does. His was the standard one as you can see by the range he posted. You can't assume he has high E2 from that test. He needs to be retested, not only for E2, but a host of other things as well such as his thyroid. Also .25 mgs EOD for three weeks would crush most guy's E2. I take .25 mgs twice a week on injection days and it keeps my E2 at 21 and has for 4 years.
 

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For thyroid I only tested TSH 2.65 µUI/mL 0.27 - 4.2
 
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I suspect estrogen is the problem, looks high on paper. I would recommend doing the sensitive assay for more accuracy. Discuss with your doc about starting a low dose of Arimidex at .25mg 24 hours after your shot and then get follow up labs in 6 weeks.
 

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Also I don't know how but Milk Thistle is very helpful, with Milk Thistle after 2-3 hours PDE5 inhibitors work. I have read that Milk Thistle lowers SHBG I don't know by how much and it raises a bit the estrogen. The problem is I don't know why Milk Thistle has any effect
 
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Hmmm so do you have a problem getting horny? Or is it simply mechanical. In other words, you are horny but your dick is not responding? It you just don't feel sexually excited at all. Anyways, you might wanna try some proviron and see if that does anything for you. That Fina that you took probably screwed you up. I have heard bad stuff about that. I dunno man, take some proviron and see what happens. That may help you
 

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I tried a shot of Masteron, it had no effect.

But I am having success with acetylcholine inhibitors, donepezil I get erection at any time of the day and I get horrny

I am still experimenting with it
 

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I tried a shot of Masteron, it had no effect.

But I am having success with acetylcholine inhibitors, donepezil I get erection at any time of the day and I get horrny

I am still experimenting with it
Isn't donepezil used to treat Alzheimer's?
 

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Yes it is, my semen volume has increased

Acetylcholine is involved in transmitting the signal through the parasympathetic nerves to the genitals.
Arousal is determined and initiated by acetylcholine.
People with acetylcholine deficiencies may find themselves unable to concentrate and focus on sex.
A loss of acetylcholine particularly affects sexual arousal. Lower moisture levels can also adversely affect semen volume in men.
 

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Swogus - it seems very clear to me that your symptoms are very similar to dreaded "Deca Dick" which comes from running Deca (I know you did not but your cycle and ancillaries raised your estrogen and prolactin - which makes ED almost inevitable.). I would look to your doctor to find ways to lower Estrogen / Prolactin and get DHT tested as well.
 

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My doctor told me that my levels are normal as my test show
 
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Further evaluation of adrenals and thyroid is highly suggested as well as altered neurotransmitter can also play apart in ED and other sexual dysfunction males experience. ED is a symptom of multiple pathologies which only can be supported by history and proper labs
 

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An update guys, it works great, no ED I had a great time never felt so lustful until yesterday.

I received bad news, just before intercourse I got it hard as usual but after like 3 minutes I lost interest in sex it went limb


I know that I must have bigger problems but the test are very expensive and I cant afford to go to more doctors and pay them to tell me that it is all in my head because the results are good
 

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That really sounds like (it could be) excess Prolactin.
You might experiment with LOW dose Cabergoline.
 

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Can you get Cabergoline WITHOUT a prescription? Or are their any good OTC Supps to lower Prolactin levels? This sounds very similar to my experience
 

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Can you get Cabergoline WITHOUT a prescription? Or are their any good OTC Supps to lower Prolactin levels? This sounds very similar to my experience
Real CABERGOLINE? Legally? in the USA? No.... (David will stump on me, if I say anymore)
 
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Caber is easily purchased from online Indian pharmacies
 
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An update guys, it works great, no ED I had a great time never felt so lustful until yesterday.

I received bad news, just before intercourse I got it hard as usual but after like 3 minutes I lost interest in sex it went limb


I know that I must have bigger problems but the test are very expensive and I cant afford to go to more doctors and pay them to tell me that it is all in my head because the results are good
What works great?
 

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If LOW DOSE CABER has a positive affect, then you have your answer.

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Prolactine is normal, I took bromocriptine and it has no effect
 
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If it's not prolactin, test, E, DHEA, it's probably not hormonal...... you tried benzos? Not that I should reccomend but that could eliminate anxiety too.
 
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I had fairly high prolactin before I got on trt but had no physical symptoms and my pituitary was checked and came back perfectly fine. I was prescribed caber for a month, never needed it again. I took caber again a couple years ago to see if it would have any positive effect on my libido, and my libido was dead for weeks after I took it.
 

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I god ED and PDE5 inhibitors do not work. I dont know what is wrong

This are my test results, my endocrinologist told me they are normal and does not see a reason for my ED

Testosterone 26.22 nmol/L 9.9 - 27.8
Free Testosteron 26.73 pg/mL 1 - 28.28
SHBG 31.58 nmol/L 14.5-48.4

FSH 3.44 mUI/mL 1.5 - 12.4
LH 7.42 mUI/mL 1.7 - 8.6
Estradiol 85.25 pmol/L 41.4 - 159
Prolactina 301.4 µUI/mL 98 - 456
TSH 2.65 µUI/mL 0.27 - 4.2
These are the best labs I have ever seen. I wish I had top of range TT, FT, LH, and mid range SHBG and E2.
So my question is, what are you doing to get this high of an LH? Share with us, please!
Did you ever get your DHT numbers?????
 

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These are the best labs I have ever seen. I wish I had top of range TT, FT, LH, and mid range SHBG and E2.
So my question is, what are you doing to get this high of an LH? Share with us, please!
Did you ever get your DHT numbers?????

I did not test my DHT, when I took the labs I wasn't on anything. After that I started to test and see how can I fix my ED
 

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Update

I think that the Masteron was mostly responsible for reversing ED, I inject 0.2ml subQ in my belly fat after one week I saw no noticeable changes and started donepezil. The spot where I injected was raised, this was at the begging of the month, and very slowly it has subsided and now it is almost gone (much slower that a testosterone subQ)

My ED is back, tomorrow I will take another shot of 0.2ml Masteron and test E this time a normal injection.


At this time I think that there two possibility's

1 both Masteron and Donepezil are helping me but neither of them are working on their own.
2 Masteron subQ got in my system to slow to notice a difference from the first week, but this not explains why with donepezil is helping with my libido
 

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Several months have passed

I did a short cycle with masteron and test, and after one month of pct 100mg clomid and 10mg nolva. No sides from pct just masive hair fall.

Erection during and after the cycle where ok, with pils and Milk Thistle.
But now after 3 week nothing is working I can get it up but it does not last enough.

As soon as the hair stooped falling my erection was gone.
 
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The money spend on drugs from doing cycle etc could have been put toward proper labs to identify the underlying pathology.
 

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I don't think that I have problems with my penis. If I get aroused I cant have intercourse without pills. Just with my brain it does not gets aroused as easily.

If I am tired even pills don't work
 

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