TRT Tip: TRT Maintenance

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  1. TRT Tip: TRT Maintenance


    What is your maintenance scheme while on TRT?

    Mine:
    1) 100 mg Test C every 3.5 days.
    2) 0.25 mg Anastrozole every 5 days (one day after Test C injection)
    3) DHEA: 25 mg ED
    4) Pregnenolone. 25 mg E3.5
    5) Bloodwork every 4 months.
    May I suggest using this app to track your bloodwork tests:
    myBloodTracker for IPhone and IPad
    https://appsto.re/us/vvMndb.i


  2. 60mg e3.5d
    25mg preg/ 25mg DHEA day after inject
    No AI
    Blood work was done every 3 months for the first 4 years and now it is every 6 months, with a CBC once a year.
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  3. just got new treatment as of today.

    New:
    60mg test cyp/prop blend (80% cyp/20% prop)
    .25 adex per week
    500iu HCG 2x week (the reason why I am continuing with this is because I've been 1 month without and I can feel something different in my balls and my libido isn't as high)

    Old:
    100mg test cyp per week
    .25 adex per week
    500iu HCG 2x week
    The more I progress, the more I want to progress

  4. Quote Originally Posted by datsthat View Post
    just got new treatment as of today.

    New:
    60mg test cyp/prop blend (80% cyp/20% prop)
    .25 adex per week
    500iu HCG 2x week (the reason why I am continuing with this is because I've been 1 month without and I can feel something different in my balls and my libido isn't as high)

    Old:
    100mg test cyp per week
    .25 adex per week
    500iu HCG 2x week
    Did you have blood work done before you started your new protocol?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by sammpedd88 View Post
    Did you have blood work done before you started your new protocol?
    Yes. I don't want to clog this thread with my info otherwise I'd post it. Everything looked good according to my doc.
    The more I progress, the more I want to progress
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    What is your maintenance scheme while on TRT?

    Mine:
    1) 50 mg Test C every 3.5 days.
    2) 0.25 mg Anastrozole every 3.5 days (one day after Test C injection)
    3) Donate blood every 56 days (double red donation is better but I don't qualify)
    4) Track DHEA and Pregnenolone. Back fill if necessary.
    5) Bloodwork every 4 months.
    This is great, but I definitely prefer using exemestane over anastrazole. Much more lipid friendly over time!!

    My test dosing protocol is the same, but I use 12.5mg exemestane on the day of each shot instead of the adex. Works like a charm.

    To backfill PREG and DHEA, I use 2 pumps of Dermacrine daily.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by datsthat View Post
    just got new treatment as of today.

    New:
    60mg test cyp/prop blend (80% cyp/20% prop)
    .25 adex per week
    500iu HCG 2x week (the reason why I am continuing with this is because I've been 1 month without and I can feel something different in my balls and my libido isn't as high)

    Old:
    100mg test cyp per week
    .25 adex per week
    500iu HCG 2x week
    Is that 60mg test blend twice a week?
  8. TRT Tip: TRT Maintenance


    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMachineX View Post
    Is that 60mg test blend twice a week?
    Correct. 120mg weekly. Blend is 160mg/ml cyp + 40mg/ml prop in sesame oil, 200mg/ml total. The reason for this blend is because before was I using 100mg cyp once a week and I complained about not feeling as good near the end of the week.
    The more I progress, the more I want to progress

  9. Quote Originally Posted by datsthat View Post
    Correct. 120mg weekly. Blend is 160mg/ml cyp + 40mg/ml prop in sesame oil, 200mg/ml total. The reason for this blend is because before was I using 100mg cyp once a week and I complained about not feeling as good near the end of the week.
    A doctor prescribed test prop/cyp blend????
  10. TRT Tip: TRT Maintenance


    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMachineX View Post
    A doctor prescribed test prop/cyp blend????
    Funny you ask because my initial thoughts which I kept to myself was "....um....... Is this for real...."

    So yes, prescribed by my TRT doc and filled by compound pharmacy. Not sure if you can see it label completely, but below is a pic. Isn't it sexy looking?

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    .

    EDIT: my mistake. My protocol is to take .3ml twice a week. .6ml weekly total which equals 120mg. So by doing the math, I am prescribed 2.4ml a month, but my vial is filled to 4ml, which leaves me with a substantial monthly excess. Not too shabbyName:  ImageUploadedByAnabolicMinds1453042261.488405.jpg
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    The more I progress, the more I want to progress

  11. Quite odd.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Quite odd.
    Why so?
    The more I progress, the more I want to progress

  13. For a doctor to prescribe a blend and use a compound pharmacy when dealing with TRT is pretty rare and Im certain that it would never be done with the endos and hormone specialists I know.

    Perhaps it is more common in other areas. To me, it just seems odd due to my experience. That's all.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    For a doctor to prescribe a blend and use a compound pharmacy when dealing with TRT is pretty rare and Im certain that it would never be done with the endos and hormone specialists I know.

    Perhaps it is more common in other areas. To me, it just seems odd due to my experience. That's all.
    Thanks for explaining. I've been with 2 TRT clinics and another that I didn't start all the way and all 3 uses compound pharmacies.

    For my 1st clinic, HcG isn't covered thru my insurance and would have costed me over $300 (3 months) at Bartells but compound pharmacy charge $120.
    The more I progress, the more I want to progress

  15. 30mg Test Cyp M,W,F
    150iu HCG M,W,F
    30ug Arimidex M,W,F
    15mg DHEA M-F
    50mg Pregnenolone M-F

    TT ~1000, FT ~35, E2 ~17, Preg ~180, DHEA ~275

    Bloodlet 300mg 1st of every month
    Hema ~ 47, Hemo ~16, RBC ~5.15
    HDL ~47, LDL ~70, VLDL ~10

  16. Quote Originally Posted by IronBusta View Post
    30mg Test Cyp M,W,F
    150iu HCG M,W,F
    30ug Arimidex M,W,F
    15mg DHEA M-F
    50mg Pregnenolone M-F

    TT ~1000, FT ~35, E2 ~17, Preg ~180, DHEA ~275

    Bloodlet 300mg 1st of every month
    Hema ~ 47, Hemo ~16, RBC ~5.15
    HDL ~47, LDL ~70, VLDL ~10
    What is 30ug Arimidex...I am not familiar with "ug".
    The more I progress, the more I want to progress

  17. Microgram (30ug = .03mg)

  18. Quote Originally Posted by IronBusta View Post
    Microgram (30ug = .03mg)
    Thanks. I learned something new today
    The more I progress, the more I want to progress

  19. VERY common practice in California for TRT docs to use compound pharmacies. I haven't heard of anyone getting brand name test from local pharmacies.

  20. My protocol:

    200mg cypionate per week dosed at 100mg twice per week (M/TH)
    50mg DHEA-S every morning

    I feel great!

  21. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    60mg e3.5d
    25mg preg/ 25mg DHEA day after inject
    No AI
    Blood work was done every 3 months for the first 4 years and now it is every 6 months, with a CBC once a year.
    Kisaj, what's the reasoning for dosing it only day after injections?

    Also, are you using dhea pills?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    Kisaj, what's the reasoning for dosing it only day after injections?

    Also, are you using dhea pills?
    @kisaj will chime in but my take on this is based on this hormone chart:
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    See how DHEA converts to Androstenedione and then that converts to testosterone ? If the concentration of testosterone is too high, like on the day of injection, then the body converts DHEA/Androstenedione into Estrone instead. So, if you want to back fill hormones properly you want to space out testosterone and DHEA. Now, why only 1 day is a mystery since testosterone has a half life of about 8 days. Interesting.
    May I suggest using this app to track your bloodwork tests:
    myBloodTracker for IPhone and IPad
    https://appsto.re/us/vvMndb.i

  23. Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    Kisaj, what's the reasoning for dosing it only day after injections?

    Also, are you using dhea pills?
    Originally it was due to self experimentation with mood, energy, e2 levels and labs to back up. I've since changed it all up and have really seen a huge boost in all day energy and focus. Granted e2 has gone up slightly and aggression has also gone up, but still very manageable and quite honestly, the extra slight aggression/alpha is nice. Especially with decision making.

    For the last 5-6 weeks I have changed to 25mg DHEA and 10mg preg M-F. Labs at week 4 (just because it fell within normal lab time, not specifically taken for the protocol change) showed e2 up at 28. I didn't test DHEAs or preg this time.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    @kisaj will chime in but my take on this is based on this hormone chart:
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    See how DHEA converts to Androstenedione and then that converts to testosterone ? If the concentration of testosterone is too high, like on the day of injection, then the body converts DHEA/Androstenedione into Estrone instead. So, if you want to back fill hormones properly you want to space out testosterone and DHEA. Now, why only 1 day is a mystery since testosterone has a half life of about 8 days. Interesting.
    That does make sense- especially seeing in the chart like that.

    So, I'm assuming these guys on TRT who are dosing dhea at 50-100mg every day good be converting a great deal of that to estrogen?

  25. Everyone is different with conversion and that is why there tends to be a lot of experimentation. There is no way to determine how much of something will convert or be diverted another direction in the hormone pathways. I know a number of guys that take 100mg of DHEA and preg everyday with no issues and others that take 25mg and have heavy e2 sides.
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