Clomid HRT automatically increase E?
- 11-05-2013, 09:55 AM
Clomid HRT automatically increase E?
Can anyone tell me how taking Clomid instead of T for HRT compares wrt to Estrogen? In other words, which one causes E to go up more? For example, if you have T of 500 and start taking either Clomid or T in order to get something more like 800, would your E levels increase more by taking Clomid, or would they increase more by taking Testosterone?
- 11-05-2013, 12:54 PM
I would guess Clomid because of possible IT aromatization, but you'de probably just need to try it and see. Going to be s little different for everybody and deoend on your hrt program.
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- 11-05-2013, 03:48 PM
Do I understand correctly that you are saying Clomid induces higher E in itself and then you get a doubled whammy when part of the simultaneously increased T also converts to E?
So is it common for people who use Clomid instead of TRT to also need AI then? - 11-06-2013, 10:31 AM
No double whammy, other than more places to aromatize to E. No intertesticular aromatization with injections. Really hard to generalize expected results. I think most here would suggest Clomid if it works for you.
You may need an AI for both or neither. Ton if variables. - 11-07-2013, 11:15 AM
My understanding (I am not a medical professional):
The pituitary gland produces LH, which causes the testes to produce T. Some of that T is converted to estrogen. When the pituitary gland sees a certain level of estrogen, it stops producing LH. Clomid tells the pituitary gland to ignore the estrogen it sees, resulting in higher T levels.
Other drugs either block the estrogen from affecting the breast and liver (Nolva) or prevent T from being converted to estrogen (arimidex, other ai's). -
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