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I might have the chance to finally try HCG, should i inject sub-q or IM? Or does it really matter? Would 200iu per week be enough? It's 90% for cosmetic reasons.
That's what I was gonna ask next haha how long it would take before they were near normal size. Will I notice anything at all after the first couple injections?I sublingual it, 5000iu / 28days. Your balls will grow in a month.
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Yeah, I was called out on why my nuts were so small a few days ago. So rather than shoving a steak knife thru her eye socket like I wanted to do, I've decided to fix the problem and hit up the HCG.Goddamnit....I was SO proud this mofo didn't create a testicle thread the last time...I thought we were over it....I thought wrong ....*puts both hands on head and lowers head*
How much were you injecting? I was thinking 25mg twice a week sub-q?I used HCG for two months, all I have to show for it is rapid hair loss. Going to see Doc in two weeks. If I'm going to lose my hair might as well be on T and HCG.
Where is 400IU on a 3cc syringe? Around .20cc?25mg? I am injecting 400IUs 3 times/week.
HCG must be reconstituted. This means you get a kit with two vials; one has a powder in it (this is the HCG) and the other is bacteriostatic water. So your first question depends on how many IUs are in your vial and how much water your reconstitute it with. My HCG kit has 10,000IU and 10mL BS water. If I injected all of the water into the vial containing the HCG, I would have a solution that was 10,000IU/10mL = 1000IU/mL. So 400IU would be .4cc.Where is 400IU on a 3cc syringe? Around .20cc?
Also, can I just inject it IM? Does it have the same effect IM vs sub-q?
I got the 5000IU HCG, so I'll add 5cc of the bacteriostatic water to the HCG vial? I inject .30cc testosterone enanthate twice per week, so could I inject .40cc of HCG the same day (twice/week)? I hear a lot of guys use 400IU HCG three times per week, would I get the same effect using 600IU twice per week? It would just be easier for me to do all of my injections the same days.HCG must be reconstituted. This means you get a kit with two vials; one has a powder in it (this is the HCG) and the other is bacteriostatic water. So your first question depends on how many IUs are in your vial and how much water your reconstitute it with. My HCG kit has 10,000IU and 10mL BS water. If I injected all of the water into the vial containing the HCG, I would have a solution that was 10,000IU/10mL = 1000IU/mL. So 400IU would be .4cc.
You can inject SQ or IM. SQ is easier and some say it absorbs better. The instructions say you must inject IM, but the instructions also say HCG is for women, so this one is up to you.
Numbers are universal, so it should say if the vial contains 5000IU. If so, add 3cc of BS water. 5000IU/3cc = 1666.67IU/CC. Inject 0.15cc twice a week for a weekly dose of 500IU. To accurately dose 0.15cc, buy 1/2mL insulin needles.I just got the vial in the mail, and it's TINY. Am I supposed to add around 3cc of the bacteriostatic water to the vial, transfer it to another vial, and add 2 more cc and transfer that? And unfortunately it's all in Chinese......
Numbers are universal, so it should say if the vial contains 5000IU. If so, add 3cc of BS water. 5000IU/3cc = 1666.67IU/CC. Inject 0.15cc twice a week for a weekly dose of 500IU. To accurately dose 0.15cc, buy 1/2mL insulin needles.
I skipped one of your instructions (about removing the air from the HCG vial). That's a hell of a vacuum! The water went in fast, and made the liquid frothy on top for a few minutes. Hope it's not ruined! I added 3mL of bacteriostatic water, which filled the tiny vial all the way to the top. I'll know to be sure and draw the air out next time!No, you do not need to transfer it to another vial.
2 notes:
1. To reconstitute: Remove air from HCG vial with syringe. Inject this air into BS water vial. Draw BS water from vial. Inject BS water into HCG vial. When injecting water into HCG vial, try to make the water run down the side of the vial instead of slamming the HCG with a stream of water. Do not shake the vial to dissolve the HCG or to mix the solution. Repeat until BS water vial is empty.
2. Keep your reconstituted HCG in the fridge. If you preload syringes, keep these in the fridge until you are ready to inject.
I guess it should get frothy on top; they get this stuff from urine, I hear.I skipped one of your instructions (about removing the air from the HCG vial). That's a hell of a vacuum! The water went in fast, and made the liquid frothy on top for a few minutes. Hope it's not ruined! I added 3mL of bacteriostatic water, which filled the tiny vial all the way to the top. I'll know to be sure and draw the air out next time!
We used to joke may as well get a hot pregnant woman to piss on you for free transdermal hcg....cheaper than buying it that's for sure lolI guess it should get frothy on top; they get this stuff from urine, I hear.
1) I don't know.How much HCG do I need per week if injecting trial delastryl 1cc every two weeks.
Doc says I will go to weekly injections once he knows my levels after 3rd injection.
Also I was not prescribed an AI, should I be concerned?
All I've heard is that HCG increases DHT, which causes the hair loss in men who are susceptible to it.Also, to my knowledge I have NEVER heard of hcg making anyone lose their hair. That is due to DHT killing hair follicles from what I understand.
Treat estradiol according to blood work.I have a prescription up to 3 months worth, my doc will inject a few times and then will teach me how to do it after 3rd injection to see where my levels are. Will probably be on AI if I get any symptoms of high E, just thought it was standard to prescribe AI with T. Would 200 IU twice a week be sufficient to maintain normal testicular function?
You do not know the HCG caused high estradiol, and you do not know what you were experiencing was due to estradiol.How high does HCG jack your e2? I used 500iu last night, and could feel e2 effects a couple hours later and throughout the night. Irritable, hot, anxious, bad sleep, etc. Say if my e2 stays around 40 on 80mg/week of testosterone, about how many points will HCG raise e2 on average?
Again, it depends on the concentration of the solution. If you added 3mL to 5000IU as I instructed earlier, then .5cc would have 5000IU/3mL * .5mL = 833.33IU.I'm using 1cc insulin syringes for the HCG. So .5 on the syringe would be 500iu right?
I'm using the U-100 1cc insulin syringes, and it says for U-100 insulin only. Is it measured differently with these syringes? I've been injecting 50 units, maybe that's why I had the reaction I get when e2 is high? I injected 30 units HCG today with no side effects.Again, it depends on the concentration of the solution. If you added 3mL to 5000IU as I instructed earlier, then .5cc would have 5000IU/3mL * .5mL = 833.33IU.
I have no idea what you are asking now. Does units equal IU? The tick marks on the syringe? Follow the directions I gave you and you will be fine.
I'm wondering if it's legit. I haven't noticed anything except the first day I took too much and felt e2 signs. Nuts are still small and scrotum is tight. Guess I'll get a pregnancy test and find out if my HCG is good or not. I'm trying to get my nuts to look normal again, and in semi-working condition. After a month I'll get my LH and FSH tested to see if it made a difference (my last blood panel showed 0.0 for both). If the test comes back normal/high range, and my nuts are still the same size, I'll know they're pretty much done.For what purpose? Meaning, what are you looking to accomplish with HCG? When I initially started taking it when I first started TRT was that it was immediately noticeable with everything. Nuts hung a little lower, but all the sides came on. Water weight gain, irritability, and lethargy. All after one week. I would think that you should notice any benefit or con by this point.
So HCG is only going to mimic LH and FSH to stimulate Leydig cells to produce natural test, but not signal the pituitary to start producing its own LH and FSH? Or do you have to stop all exogenous test for a few weeks for the pituitary to begin producing again? I've got two vials, so I'll use them both back to back and see if I notice any major results. If it's minor, I'll just stick with the test..Even with HCG your LH and FSH will still test next to zero. I don't think two weeks is long enough to see cosmetic changes.
So unless I'm trying to restart and stop TRT, or get my girl pregnant, HCG is all I need to keep my testicles working? How will I know they're working again? Just by the way they look, or sperm analysis?HCG only mimics LH. It is not GnRH, so it will not signal the pituitary to release either LH or FSH. FSH binds to receptors on the Sertoli cells, not Leydig cells. To get the pituitary to release LH and FSH, use a SERM.
Jesus f*cking Christ man I was just curious if the HCG could be working even if there is no change in testicle size. I've read that shutting down your pituitary will also lower your DHEA, so I'll bring that up at my next endo visit. Maybe they'll find a way for me to obtain it at a cheaper price, since insurance rarely pays for it from what I'm told. I appreciate your help, but if you're going to reply on an information/help forum with smart ass replies, then you probably shouldn't bother.Given what I posted above, you should know what result a sperm analysis on some on TRT and HCG would yield, so I am not inclined to answer more questions when you are not pulling your own weight on your education. However, you said you started HCG for cosmetic reasons. If you are getting cosmetic results, then you should be satisfied, no?
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