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    25 year old ED- treatment advice...


    I have a poor medical history and was on TRT last year for 6 months. Had successful clomid restart in may. I don't feel like I have low T symptoms at all, but on Friday n Saturday night, I was with a girl I'm seeing and I couldn't achieve a solid full erection, and I couldn't maintain the weak one. This happened two nights in a row. Luckily she's still talking to me, but wtf.

    I saw my urologist today and he did a full blood work up to check everything out. But in the mean time he gave me sampled and an rx of staxyn which is a pde5 inhib.

    I'm researching but not sure what this means for the long term....

    After further research, I realize that i used AI SPORTS PERFORM at 2 capsules a day for 60 days straight (all of July and August) I was Hornier than ever and popping uncontrollable hard ons on that stuff like I was 13 again. After stopping (2 weeks ago) things have declined RAPIDLY!

    Could using that product / coming off of it be causing this issue?! I've never not been able to get it up except once when I was HAMMERED... This happened twice in a row now, neither time was I drunk.

    I really like this girl, and she's 21, and fkin HOT. So 3 strikes and I'm out, I need to get my dick back.
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    Bump. I popped one at 730.. Felt nothing just got bright red and hot, and got an earache. My dick didnt even twitch. Neat
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Bump. I popped one at 730.. Felt nothing just got bright red and hot, and got an earache. My dick didnt even twitch. Neat
    It very well could be your e2 is too low. This happens to me if mine is too low, I can pop a cialis and get hot and red, but no erection. Are you drinking after you take the pill? Might want to take it, then get a little buzz going about 30 min - 1 hour later. If that doesn't work, pop 2 pills (but hit up google first to make sure that dosage isn't dangerous. Shouldn't be, I've taken a ****load of cialis at once before and I'm fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post

    It very well could be your e2 is too low. This happens to me if mine is too low, I can pop a cialis and get hot and red, but no erection. Are you drinking after you take the pill? Might want to take it, then get a little buzz going about 30 min - 1 hour later. If that doesn't work, pop 2 pills (but hit up google first to make sure that dosage isn't dangerous. Shouldn't be, I've taken a ****load of cialis at once before and I'm fine.
    No drinking nope. I got labs yesterday actually so well see tomorrow
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    Get your prolactin level checked, as you might already know, high prolactin can be a huge sex/erection killer. If it's high, get on cabergoline and you'll be bangin again in no time. Seriously, caber works fast!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    Get your prolactin level checked, as you might already know, high prolactin can be a huge sex/erection killer. If it's high, get on cabergoline and you'll be bangin again in no time. Seriously, caber works fast!
    Yep, it's included in the labs I'm trying to get the results as we speak lol.

    It's never been high tho... What can cause it to rise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post

    Yep, it's included in the labs I'm trying to get the results as we speak lol.

    It's never been high tho... What can cause it to rise?
    The main reasons I know of are prolactinoma (pretty easy operation if that's the cause, usually evident if prolactin is SUPER high), over-masturbation, certain steroids. If your test comes back high like mine did a couple years ago, your doc should be able to point you in the right direction. I had a brain scan that was perfect, so my doc put me on cabergoline for a few months. That took care of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post

    The main reasons I know of are prolactinoma (pretty easy operation if that's the cause, usually evident if prolactin is SUPER high), over-masturbation, certain steroids. If your test comes back high like mine did a couple years ago, your doc should be able to point you in the right direction. I had a brain scan that was perfect, so my doc put me on cabergoline for a few months. That took care of it.
    Well I've only used winny (6 years ago) and I only masturbate like 3-4 times a week... Usually if i just can't sleep, not bc i feel like i need to.. Perhaps I should get MRI of pituitary pending those labs I got Monday
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    Please look at this ASAP REALLY STRANGE blood work- help
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Please look at this ASAP REALLY STRANGE blood work- help
    High liver enzymes are normal for trt patients from what I've seen, including myself. Your prolactin is a little high, but nothing to worry about. Your e2 needs to get under control. If your prolactin is higher and higher with each blood test, then inquire about an MRI to rule out any pituitary tumors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post

    High liver enzymes are normal for trt patients from what I've seen, including myself. Your prolactin is a little high, but nothing to worry about. Your e2 needs to get under control. If your prolactin is higher and higher with each blood test, then inquire about an MRI to rule out any pituitary tumors.
    I'm not on anything for TRT though

    Just test powder c20 versa and prime ... I've been off TRT since April

    Prolactin is usually 8 and never had high liver enzymes before
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    All I can say about liver enzymes is my wife used to do bloodwork at a plant with over 1100 employees for a yearly check. The amount of times guys came back with high liver ezymes due to OTC supplements was mind boggling.

    I'm not saying OTC is all crap, but I feel much safer putting real Testosterone in my body versus some hodge podge of chemicals by a for profit company.

    **How hard are your erections when you masturbate? If you have rock hard erections when you are masturbating and not so much when with your girl unfortunately most of that is psychological then. As far as ED drugs, viagra, and the like you have to be aroused for it to work. You getting hot etc means it was working and your dick should have been harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oh_geesh View Post
    All I can say about liver enzymes is my wife used to do bloodwork at a plant with over 1100 employees for a yearly check. The amount of times guys came back with high liver ezymes due to OTC supplements was mind boggling.

    I'm not saying OTC is all crap, but I feel much safer putting real Testosterone in my body versus some hodge podge of chemicals by a for profit company.

    **How hard are your erections when you masturbate? If you have rock hard erections when you are masturbating and not so much when with your girl unfortunately most of that is psychological then. As far as ED drugs, viagra, and the like you have to be aroused for it to work. You getting hot etc means it was working and your dick should have been harder.
    I have stopped taking most supps and added in powerfull for the l dopa to lower prolactin. Woke up this morning and couple times during the night with raging wood.

    Prior to this tho, the hardness was the same by myself and with the girl
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post

    I have stopped taking most supps and added in powerfull for the l dopa to lower prolactin. Woke up this morning and couple times during the night with raging wood.

    Prior to this tho, the hardness was the same by myself and with the girl
    Vitamin b6 P5P is great at lowering prolactin as well, just don't take it daily for long periods of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post

    Vitamin b6 P5P is great at lowering prolactin as well, just don't take it daily for long periods of time.
    I take a b100 complex daily.. I have for like 3-4 years now..
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    Most B-Complex vitamins contain Vitamin B6 in the form of pyridoxine hcl, not in the form of P-5-P. It is my understanding that P-5-P is the form necessary fro Prolactin reduction.

    Others, please correct me if this is inaccurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post
    Most B-Complex vitamins contain Vitamin B6 in the form of pyridoxine hcl, not in the form of P-5-P. It is my understanding that P-5-P is the form necessary fro Prolactin reduction.

    Others, please correct me if this is inaccurate.
    I think you're right, which is good bc the other poster said not to take it for too long, so I got nervous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    I think you're right, which is good bc the other poster said not to take it for too long, so I got nervous.
    I am not expert, but I believe the issues have been with large doses of pyridoxine hcl, over long periods of time. I believe there is a good deal of information on what constitutes a "large enough" dose to be concerned with.

    Your use of a B Complex over a prolonged period should be of no concern to you.

    I take 3 Jarrow B-Right every day, and I am not concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post
    I am not expert, but I believe the issues have been with large doses of pyridoxine hcl, over long periods of time. I believe there is a good deal of information on what constitutes a "large enough" dose to be concerned with.

    Your use of a B Complex over a prolonged period should be of no concern to you.

    I take 3 Jarrow B-Right every day, and I am not concerned.
    Here is what I just read:


    One way to avoid the ‘finger tingling’ that high dose B6 can cause is to take the activated form of B6 called Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate (P5P) – the activated form of B6 does not cause these nerve issues.

    In fact, the reason that high dose B6 causes nerve problems is that the body can’t always process very high B6 doses properly and this creates a deficiency of the active form of B6, P5P.

    To lower prolactin levels it was recommended to take 50 to 200mg of P5P a day, in divided doses. With respect to regular B6, take 300 to 1000 mg per day in divided doses.

    The Pyridoxine Hydrochloride type of B6 (in most supplements) has been shown to be a prolactin inhibitor but Pyridoxal hydrochloride has been shown to be ineffective at lowering prolactin – make sure you buy the right type!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post

    Here is what I just read:

    One way to avoid the 'finger tingling' that high dose B6 can cause is to take the activated form of B6 called Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate (P5P) - the activated form of B6 does not cause these nerve issues.

    In fact, the reason that high dose B6 causes nerve problems is that the body can't always process very high B6 doses properly and this creates a deficiency of the active form of B6, P5P.

    To lower prolactin levels it was recommended to take 50 to 200mg of P5P a day, in divided doses. With respect to regular B6, take 300 to 1000 mg per day in divided doses.

    The Pyridoxine Hydrochloride type of B6 (in most supplements) has been shown to be a prolactin inhibitor but Pyridoxal hydrochloride has been shown to be ineffective at lowering prolactin - make sure you buy the right type!
    Good stuff, thank you.
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    BTW - here is the profile of Jarrow B-Right, which contains both types of B6 mentioned above:

    Supplement Facts
    Serving Size 1 Capsule
    Servings Per Container 100
    Amount Per Serving %Daily Value
    Vitamin B1 (as thiamine mononitrate) 25 mg 1,667%
    Vitamin B2 (as riboflavin) 25 mg 1,470%
    Vitamin B3 (as niacin) 25 mg 125%
    Vitamin B3 (as niacinamide) 100 mg 500%
    Vitamin B5 (as calcium D-pantothenate) 100 mg 1,000%
    Pantethine (vitamin B5 derivative) 25 mg *
    Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxine HCl) 25 mg 1,250%
    Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxal 5-phosphate) 10 mg 500%
    Folate (from folic acid and QUATREFOLIC® (6S)-5-methyl tetrahydrofolate glucosamine salt) 400 mcg 100%
    Vitamin B12 (as methylcobalamin) 100 mcg 1,667%
    Biotin 300 mcg 100%
    Choline (as choline bitartrate) 50 mg *
    Inositol 50 mg *
    PABA (para-aminobenzoic acid) 30 mg *
    *Daily Value not established.
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    Again OP if you are getting nocturnal erections and your erections are hard while masturbating yet when "With your girl!" they are not it's psychological. Just google PORN induced ED!!

    IT'S THE NUMBER #1 FORM OF ED UNDER THE AGE OF 35 RIGHT NOW. Most often they will say stop porn 100% and stop masturbating for a minimum of a month. Get aroused the old fashion way versus the visual jackpot that porn gives. Best of luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oh_geesh View Post
    Again OP if you are getting nocturnal erections and your erections are hard while masturbating yet when "With your girl!" they are not it's psychological. Just google PORN induced ED!!

    IT'S THE NUMBER #1 FORM OF ED UNDER THE AGE OF 35 RIGHT NOW. Most often they will say stop porn 100% and stop masturbating for a minimum of a month. Get aroused the old fashion way versus the visual jackpot that porn gives. Best of luck!
    LOL. It was our first (and second) times that were not up to snuff... There hasn't been a third yet lol. But I'm thinking things will be better... If not, 3 strikes and I'm out... No pressure! Haha

    But in all seriousness, after starting the powerfull, I am getting them in my sleep and waking up w them for the most part so well see how it shakes out come performance time
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    LOL. It was our first (and second) times that were not up to snuff... There hasn't been a third yet lol. But I'm thinking things will be better... If not, 3 strikes and I'm out... No pressure! Haha

    But in all seriousness, after starting the powerfull, I am getting them in my sleep and waking up w them for the most part so well see how it shakes out come performance time
    OK boys, enough of that weiner talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flacid View Post
    What if always soft and experiencing gay thoughts
    Might wanna try straight thoughts if the gay thoughts aren't getting you hard. Or maybe barnyard thoughts
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    Quote Originally Posted by flacid View Post
    What if always soft and experiencing gay thoughts
    Quote Originally Posted by flacid View Post

    I get hard for gay thoughts but that's it
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