2080 test level
- 08-02-2013, 12:31 PM
With you test being so high DHEA will convert to other things, like estrogen. I read where one persons test was 1300 on only two pumps of AndroGel. It turns out that he was rubbing it on his inner arms and then have blood drawing from that same area. This apparently skews the results. He was also being tested about an hour after application. Test levels peak shortly after application so it's better to wait until later in the day.
P.S. How can you afford AndroGel at 12 pumps/day?
- 08-02-2013, 01:01 PM
- 08-02-2013, 01:48 PM
08-02-2013, 01:55 PM
08-02-2013, 05:42 PM
"Total estrogens" 165 (40-115 Pg/Ml) HIGH
Progesterone 1.6 (.2-1.4 Ng/Ml) HIGH
Prolactin 7.2 (4-15.2 Ng/Ml)
And I thought prolactin was the problem I had to get an appt with an endo since the GP cried he would lose his license for prescribing arimidex to a TRT patient lol I demanded a referral to an endo so he was happy to give it to me this time. Is my prolactin too high? seems above the middle.....and progesterone, is that something I should be concerned about? Not so familiar with progesterone.
08-02-2013, 06:10 PM
I apply progesterone cream daily. It's good for both men and women. High estro especially E2 is a big problem. It's pretty well been confirmed that it is the primary cause of prostate cancer in men and breast cancer in women.
08-02-2013, 07:21 PM
08-02-2013, 07:55 PM
08-02-2013, 08:52 PM
08-02-2013, 11:29 PM
No PSA, and he even mentioned it last year and "checked my prostate" for me .....I have some PSA kits laying around here from my previous andractim orders....never used them, not sure how accurate they are.
08-02-2013, 11:36 PM
08-03-2013, 12:32 AM
08-03-2013, 01:04 AM
Test said negative for PSA....but I wasn't able to get much blood....the pad was wet with blood, but not saturated by any measure. Did come up strong negative though.
08-03-2013, 08:20 AM
08-03-2013, 01:54 PM
08-03-2013, 01:58 PM
Dude, no doctor is going to prescribe you a female cancer drug. Look to the RC's...
EDIT: unless you go to an anti aging clinic...
08-03-2013, 02:25 PM
I'm on a TRT compound cream. My doc prescribed 0.5 adex e3d. Did not even ask. This was standard and was reduced to 0.3 e3d after first round of blood work. E3 now 18-21 range.
08-03-2013, 02:29 PM
If you're having trouble getting a script, there are done good OTC AIs such as Erase. Some have success with just I3C. I'd try two original Erase with one NOW brand I3C E2D
08-03-2013, 03:02 PM
08-03-2013, 03:06 PM
08-05-2013, 11:53 AM
The best product for lowering estrogen is Formestane and it's still available OTC. Test is not bad for your prostate as long as you don't have prostate cancer. It's a low T/E ratio that will cause prostate problems. A healthy prostate needs testosterone, progesterone and a small amount of estrogen. Not enough testosterone or progesterone and estrogen will binds to these receptors and cause the proatate to grow.
08-05-2013, 12:08 PM
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08-09-2013, 04:51 PM
Oh God, the endo....lol...completely insane. He was the worst endo ever. The only thing he did that I liked was to order two rounds of labs, first one is PSA-Estradiol-Free/total test (I took his labcorp script to my GP and they did it for me ). I also asked for SHBG....but we shall see on that one. The 2nd round was Estradiol-Free/total test again plus LH/FSH and something else I forgot, 2 months from now. So at least I got some reason to get labs done again so soon after my last two rounds where I was sky high on test and estrogen both times. This mafcker ordered an ultrasound of my tits because I complained of high estrogen and some gyno lol And of course he wanted to send me to the urologist to get whatever stuck up my ass to REALLY find out about the PSA thing. Well, fck him....I'll take the standard PSA test, and I'll pass on the mammogram or whatever he ordered. Never going back there again, worst part is that this was "just the beginning" according to him LMFAO,....I found some non-RC aromasin so I'll just roll with that and supps transdermal forma after my arimidex runs out. I'll do labs every couple months until such time that I am within range on test AND estradiol. I'll just have to do it myself/with my GP's office like I was doing. God forbid you have an endo who can act normal and monitor you and prescribe you rx to help you out....too much to ask. This is why there are so many god-damn anti-aging clinics around here in SFL.....its the only way to get ancillaries and GH and for that matter test w/o a great big hassle.
08-14-2013, 05:47 PM
OK new Numbers.....back to reality thank God lol.
Total Test--960 (perfect)
Free Test--38 (she said High, I was on some good nettle extract though lol)
Total Estrogen--195 (up from 165 WTF???? dropping the DHEA altogether now...will get trans-rez separate)
Estradiol--51 (obviously high)
I told the lady i was not intending on going back to the endo and she said she saw how pissed off/upset I was at the initial consultation So I told her I disagree 100% with everything the guy had to say other than what labs he requested, and i wouldn't be back. She already knew this by my "look" I had on that day. I explained to her that this proves my theory that my estrogen is high independent of my test results (it went UP while my test levels decreased by 50-60% so.....). She suggested go to the urologist and maybe they could prescribe an AI if I prove that my prostate is at risk due to high estrogen....the good news is that I came back perfectly fine on the PSA test...so they cannot stop my trt, and since my levels are within normal range they will be required to address my high estrogen issue w/o telling me "drop the androgel dosage"....this fcking idiot told the girl who called me to suggest dropping from 4 pumps to 2 pumps lol....I'm steady at 8 pumps anyways at 960, and I feel fine other than the estrogen issues. Motherfcker wants to drop me off of trt entirely essentially and bottom me out in order to bring my estrogen down....meanwhile that will probably skyrocket my estro even higher....endo's are SO INTELLIGENT !!!!
08-14-2013, 06:50 PM
That e2 number is not out of whack w a T of 960.
I'm not convinced your e2 is high independent of your test. Too early to jump to conclusions.
How many pumps were you on when you got tested?
EDIT I just saw the 8 pumps...
08-14-2013, 06:55 PM
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