50 years old - questions on TRT

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by pappybay View Post

    I am still in the "just a little more" phase of my education. I am at 180 per week and I predict I get a 30 kicker from the HCG for a total of 210. I know,I know, what the H am I thinking! I really don't have a good answer to my own question.

    I guess I am somewhat impatient to add muscle mass and strength, having seen good results to date. I swear I think this level is the "magic point" for me as I feel stronger and my weights are going up each week.

    I sound like a teenager not listening to sound advice,even though I am an old man.

    One thing I will say is I feel a high level of confidence you guys will not pull any punches in expressing your opinions,and I truly do value your input greatly. I am just not ready to drop from where I am to 120 per week.....yet.

    Respectfully posted
    Ok, I'm kinda w Swanson in that I think you're still in the more is better phase. I can say w a good deal of confidence more is not better. When I was at the higher doses, yeah, my body weight was higher and I was getting stronger every week. But, my labs were screwed up - hgb 20, hct 60, e2 76 etc... It just wasn't worth it to keep pinning 150/week. So, I dropped my dose by a third and guess what? I was (am) still getting stronger.

    And why the hcg? Are you planning on having kids? Also, IIRC you're on an ai as well. If not I apologize. My point is that all of this can be managed w/o an ai/hcg. Me, i want to take a few drugs as possible. Have you had labs done recently? I'd be interested to see what your hgb and hct are. I'm telling ya, that is what got my attention and forced me really to reevaluate my trt. When the doc says you're a stroke waiting to happen, it kinda gets your attention.

    To me, the negatives of being on high dose trt, and lets face it: 180 is a pretty hefty trt dose far outweigh the positives. I don't want to be a stroke waiting to happen for a couple extra pounds of muscle.

    You can still make plenty of gains, and lower the risk of other trt related issues on a lower dose.


  2. I am running labs on Monday morning.

    Last labs were in early May.

    HCG is pure vanity BTW.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by pappybay View Post
    I am running labs on Monday morning.

    Last labs were in early May.

    HCG is pure vanity BTW.
    If you don't mind sharing the results that'd be great...

  4. i have my appointment set for july 19 with the anti-aging specialist. i had to be very persistent. it seems that they weren't looking to take on new clients.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by goobypls View Post
    i have my appointment set for july 19 with the anti-aging specialist. i had to be very persistent. it seems that they weren't looking to take on new clients.
    good lord..
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post

    good lord..
    It's all about the $$$

    As traditional medicine reimbursement drops, ie, sequestration in February was a good example of a 2% cut in Medicare, physicians are looking for other income sources. If they set up their practice in a traditional way RE TRT, they don't make a lot of money.

    Most physicians may be intelligent, but that doesn't mean they are smart or have good business acumen.
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