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    Quote Originally Posted by rfarns01 View Post

    No the sales pitch for phylogel is trolling, seriously this elrock guy is actually going to put deodorant, androgel and phylogel under his pits get real. People will do anything to try and sell there products.
    LOL @ me being a sales rep for Phlojel! I don't even live in the same country as the makers of the Phlogel nor could I even tell you the company name who makes it without searching for it first. I have never even heard of it before last week. You can view all my previous posts on and see I have never mentioned this product before. Now, that I have done my research on it I'm going to give it a go and see if it improves my TRT gel numbers. So I was going to share my experience with it here in this section. In hopes to help someone else out wether it is beneficial or not for me. That's what we're all pretty much doing on here in the anti-aging section. You see the trolling and sells pitches are in the supplement section.

    Axiron Gel was not my first choice for my TRT treatment but my insurance would not cover Androgel and Axiron had a company promo for only $25 bucks a month. And unfortunately, my doc wont go for the shots.
    And yes I am willing to put another compound onto my armpits after I apply my Axiron gel. If it has the potential to bring my numbers from 400 to 800 then yes that would be worth it to me. I figure It's worth a shot at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELROCK View Post

    LOL @ me being a sales rep for Phlojel! I don't even live in the same country as the makers of the Phlogel nor could I even tell you the company name who makes it without searching for it first. I have never even heard of it before last week. You can view all my previous posts on and see I have never mentioned this product before. Now, that I have done my research on it I'm going to give it a go and see if it improves my TRT gel numbers. So I was going to share my experience with it here in this section. In hopes to help someone else out wether it is beneficial or not for me. That's what we're all pretty much doing on here in the anti-aging section. You see the trolling and sells pitches are in the supplement section.

    Axiron Gel was not my first choice for my TRT treatment but my insurance would not cover Androgel and Axiron had a company promo for only $25 bucks a month. And unfortunately, my doc wont go for the shots.
    And yes I am willing to put another compound onto my armpits after I apply my Axiron gel. If it has the potential to bring my numbers from 400 to 800 then yes that would be worth it to me. I figure It's worth a shot at least.
    Whatever works, sorry if I offended, but you and the anabolic fellow sounded like an infomercial. Good luck to you.

    Try to put the Axiron on diff. areas of your body, shoulders, bottom of forearms are good places.

    Also search for alternatives because the $25 promo will run out and then what?

    I was on axiron for over a year, two hours after applying was as high as 1200, 1000, and 800. But you get a severe drop after that, too big of a drop, sometimes, 500, 300, or below 200. It does not seem to get you at a stable level. Which I realize is a daily application but what a daily rollercoaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rfarns01 View Post
    Whatever works, sorry if I offended, but you and the anabolic fellow sounded like an infomercial. Good luck to you.

    Try to put the Axiron on diff. areas of your body, shoulders, bottom of forearms are good places.

    Also search for alternatives because the $25 promo will run out and then what?

    I was on axiron for over a year, two hours after applying was as high as 1200, 1000, and 800. But you get a severe drop after that, too big of a drop, sometimes, 500, 300, or below 200. It does not seem to get you at a stable level. Which I realize is a daily application but what a daily rollercoaster.
    Are you mental or something? You need a psychological evaluation, never mind testosterone and estrogen bloods.

    P.S.: twice a day application with topical test gels, try it some time......voila! no rollercoaster. Although I don't believe you about these 400-800 point dips in less than 24 hours...I think once a day application is adequate, but not optimal by any means (reason for my twice a day application).
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post

    Are you mental or something? You need a psychological evaluation, never mind testosterone and estrogen bloods.

    P.S.: twice a day application with topical test gels, try it some time......voila! no rollercoaster. Although I don't believe you about these 400-800 point dips in less than 24 hours...I think once a day application is adequate, but not optimal by any means (reason for my twice a day application).

    Go back to sniffing your phylogel my friend. No need for the name calling, just providing my experience with Axiron. So fuk off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rfarns01 View Post
    Go back to sniffing your phylogel my friend. I've moved on from the gels and most of you gel users will also. No need for the name calling, just providing my experience with Axiron. So fuk off.
    name calling? "mental" is not exactly name calling.....the F word is though (hello hypocrite....oh is "hypocrite" a "name" ????? lol).....I will continue on the gel considering it gives me about 80mg of test per pump towards my total test #. 1 minute of my day twice a day is A-OK with me....no hassle really as compared to sticking a needle into myself a few times per week or more. To each his own, stop trying to push injections on people using gels.....or are you a test cyp rep for big pharma??? hmmmmmmmmm............ you come in here making false accusations at another poster, then turn around and pull a hypocrite on us by pushing injections over gels and name calling. We were better off w/o your contributions to this thread. Seek professional help buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post

    name calling? "mental" is not exactly name calling.....the F word is though (hello hypocrite....oh is "hypocrite" a "name" ????? lol).....I will continue on the gel considering it gives me about 80mg of test per pump towards my total test #. 1 minute of my day twice a day is A-OK with me....no hassle really as compared to sticking a needle into myself a few times per week or more. To each his own, stop trying to push injections on people using gels.....or are you a test cyp rep for big pharma??? hmmmmmmmmm............ you come in here making false accusations at another poster, then turn around and pull a hypocrite on us by pushing injections over gels and name calling. We were better off w/o your contributions to this thread. Seek professional help buddy.
    Not pushing injections at all like I told elrock whatever works, if you would have read the whole comment you would have seen I was trying to help him once that $25 Axiron coupon expires he will need an alternative. I am sure he doesn't want to pay the $400.00 a month for Axiron.

    Calm down dude lay off the caffeine. Geeez, no need to comment back I'm done with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rfarns01 View Post
    Not pushing injections at all like I told elrock whatever works, if you would have read the whole comment you would have seen I was trying to help him once that $25 Axiron coupon expires he will need an alternative. I am sure he doesn't want to pay the $400.00 a month for Axiron.

    Calm down dude lay off the caffeine. Geeez, no need to comment back I'm done with you.
    I was simply trying to convey to you how off base you were with the whole phlojel rep scenario. We don't rep for phlojel or androgel or anything else any more than you rep for test cyp suppliers. And yes, androgel is cost prohibitive for those w/o good insurance/prescription coverage. I am lucky and I get it for $6 a month....but if there comes the day I don't have this type of coverage? yes I will switch to injections since they are 1,000% cheaper. For now I am satisfied with the androgel, Elrock will probably run into problems if his insurance won't cover androgel (which is very odd by the way). So he may experience what you are suggesting, lack of topical options which are affordable. Unless they allow him to get on axiron w/o the need for coupons. It sucks when a doc won't allow you to get on injections, yet your insurance does not cover androgel.....talk about between a rock and a hard place (no pun intended regarding his username lol).
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    Here are my actual lab results from applying the 4 pumps of Androgel 1.62% along with Phlojel Ultra. How do they look? What are the risks of maintaining a total testosterone leveof 1205 long-term, besides possible elevated PSA values?
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    Testosterone Total: 1205 ng/dl, reference interval: 241-827
    SHBG: 34 NMOL/L, reference interval: 13-71
    Testosterone Free (calc): 294 pg/ml, reference interval: 35-180
    Testosterone Free % 2.5%: reference interval: 1.0-.27
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    Correction....Testosterone free reference interval is 1.0-2.7
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    Provided you feel good at that level, which is what really matters, and you monitor estrogen, PSA, any cardiovascular concerns etc....and they are not out of whack, I don't see a problem with it. Although being over 1000 chronically is asking for trouble eventually if you ask me.....some of these things are bound to get out of whack and you'll be chasing after them with AI's and prostate supps or BP meds etc. You'll end up pissed off and decide to lower to a more manageable level like 700-800-900 or whatever.
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    Thanks, that's great advice. I actually do feel pretty stellar now with my total test at 1205. Any opinions from you (or anyone) on my free test values?

    I've basically tripled my total test within about 2 months and the most significant side effect is fat loss I've dropped about 8lbs and kept my muscle mass for the most part, and I haven't been changing too much with my diet, which has been a partial intermittent fasting diet a few days a week. I've set a new PR on my decline bench at 415lbs and my strength is still on par or better than it was prior to HRT. My libido fluctuates alot though and has much larger spikes, my endurance is awesome both in/out of the gym, I'm sleeping less, and I definitely have an Alpha male complex, great self-esteem, and just a general better sense of well-being. In 2 months I'm getting another full blood profile to test for PSA and estrogen, though from my last test my SBHG value was pretty low which I believe indicates my estrogen is not spiking. I have not had any sore nips nor bloating similar to what I experienced on my past AndroBulk PH cycles, and I definitely fell a hell of alot healthier than taking those oral PH supplements. I'll probably keep everything in check and drop reduce my Androgel a bit this fall to cycle down to the 700/800s.

    I hope this thread we've been documenting with our results helps other folks over 35 in their quest to improve their T levels, safely and responsibly.
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    Thats great results man good on you!! In 23 and just started Testogel! Im gonna starting using phlojel ultra just by seeing ylur results!! Id love to be at those levels as im only about 250, all the best to you and great news!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    Thanks, that's great advice. I actually do feel pretty stellar now with my total test at 1205. Any opinions from you (or anyone) on my free test values?

    I've basically tripled my total test within about 2 months and the most significant side effect is fat loss I've dropped about 8lbs and kept my muscle mass for the most part, and I haven't been changing too much with my diet, which has been a partial intermittent fasting diet a few days a week. I've set a new PR on my decline bench at 415lbs and my strength is still on par or better than it was prior to HRT. My libido fluctuates alot though and has much larger spikes, my endurance is awesome both in/out of the gym, I'm sleeping less, and I definitely have an Alpha male complex, great self-esteem, and just a general better sense of well-being. In 2 months I'm getting another full blood profile to test for PSA and estrogen, though from my last test my SBHG value was pretty low which I believe indicates my estrogen is not spiking. I have not had any sore nips nor bloating similar to what I experienced on my past AndroBulk PH cycles, and I definitely fell a hell of alot healthier than taking those oral PH supplements. I'll probably keep everything in check and drop reduce my Androgel a bit this fall to cycle down to the 700/800s.

    I hope this thread we've been documenting with our results helps other folks over 35 in their quest to improve their T levels, safely and responsibly.
    Yeah unfortunately there is a LOT of ignorance and hate for "androgel" or any topical testosterone (esp on this forum). Why the majority are so hostile about it? I am not sure....perhaps they just don't understand the whole concept and what is possible with topical application of test, so they just lash out at it. I've had good results w/o transdermal carriers like phlogel or DMSO....getting to 687 18 hours post application at 8 pumps (really only 6 pumps since a few probably went to DHT conversion). I shudder to think how high it is at 12 pumps per day (what I've been doing) OR 12 pumps plus phlogel lol.....scary. I wish that damn phlogel distributor would get his shipment in so I can get back on the phlogel and get a few weeks in then go get tested. I am super curious to see the crazy # that comes up. Hopefully the "topical people" won't get discouraged by the negative propaganda about androgel that you find in this forum, and instead see that there are guys getting great results (oftentimes BETTER than the injection guys given the right carrier).

    But yeah....test really rips the fat off of me like crazy. I'd say I get 80% or more fat loss and 20% or less added muscle mass while on test.....its always burned fat for me never did all that much for me in regards to muscle mass, even when I cycled it when I was younger. But that is fine, there are other things I can take for muscle mass....so long as the test keeps my fat in check, its all good.
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    Yeah, definitely this Androgel is nuking my past stubborn fat that never went away previously! What's crazy is I've even dialed back my cardio to only 5 min for warm up every day and no other steady-state or interval training, and I'm losing fat like freakin' crazy. On the 4th of July I weighed myself and I finally broke the 200 barrier down to 199lbs, and I haven't done that in years and that as on a serious low carb/high protein diet. My general 1.5hr resistance training 5 days/week has been extremely effective with no additional cardio, which I like to maintain my muscle mass. I eat away muscle to quickly with cardio and consider myself more of a hard muscle gainer. BTW...how did you determine that your test levels were dropping where you had to apply more Andrgel in the afternoon/evening? Is that still the case if you apply Phlogel to your morning application? That reminds me, I need to order a 500g tub of that Phlogel to stock up! Maybe later this year I research how to acquire the raw ingredients and make it myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    Yeah, definitely this Androgel is nuking my past stubborn fat that never went away previously! What's crazy is I've even dialed back my cardio to only 5 min for warm up every day and no other steady-state or interval training, and I'm losing fat like freakin' crazy. On the 4th of July I weighed myself and I finally broke the 200 barrier down to 199lbs, and I haven't done that in years and that as on a serious low carb/high protein diet. My general 1.5hr resistance training 5 days/week has been extremely effective with no additional cardio, which I like to maintain my muscle mass. I eat away muscle to quickly with cardio and consider myself more of a hard muscle gainer. BTW...how did you determine that your test levels were dropping where you had to apply more Andrgel in the afternoon/evening? Is that still the case if you apply Phlogel to your morning application? That reminds me, I need to order a 500g tub of that Phlogel to stock up! Maybe later this year I research how to acquire the raw ingredients and make it myself.
    Right I don't even do cardio and the fat comes off....I do a lot of walking and up and down at work though. But I am just OCD about half-lives and taking things in split doses. That is the reason to split the androgel dosage, just to keep it steady......plus even the guy at the doctors office who wrote the new script put down 4 pumps twice a day, since its not feasible to apply 8 pumps at once (although you could if you spread it out.....). I used to take dbol every 4 hours lol, 5mg pills I'd take 1 or 2 every 4 hours to equal 40 or 50mg...whatever mg amount I was looking for. And my PH/DS? I split them up as well....even the PP androseries line I used to dose twice a day. But that guy (if you use the US distributor) is still out of phlogel....been almost a week. He promised me a free 100g container for my troubles along with the 500g I ordered. I know of a place (Malaysia) where you can get the kits of liquid and powder and mix it up yourself.....saves you about 300% since you get like 3-4X the final product. But I'm sure there are places that sell it even cheaper than that, just buying the basic raw materials in bulk.....not the kits.
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    Cool! If you could PM me some of that info to create the kits or raw materials, I'd appreciate it!
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    If you have the info for me to could you please PM me as im using testogel!
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    The testosterone gel 1.62% I order from Androrxshop contains around 10% DMSO for transdermal. I've noticed a much better absorption than my prescribed Androgel. Sometimes the site goes down as its hosted by some malaysian host, but they always return my emails, and always get my product. Anyways, good luck with the experimentations guys. I'm interested to hear how things go.
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    I ordered (2) bottles from Androrxshop last month and I did notice it was a different formula with the DMSO. It is a bit more gel-like that the Androgel and it stays on top of the skin a bit longer. So far it has seemed like a great product!
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    Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    I ordered (2) bottles from Androrxshop last month and I did notice it was a different formula with the DMSO. It is a bit more gel-like that the Androgel and it stays on top of the skin a bit longer. So far it has seemed like a great product!
    So you guys order w/o prescription? i was under the impression anything testosterone was scheduled and therefore required a prescription??? this place would put topical DHEA Companies out of business if its OTC ordering.
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    Yes, you can order from them w/o a script and the package arrives from an art supply store in Oregon Shipping is incredibly quick and the product is very high quality. It's exactly $50/bottle including shipping and I've used 2 bottles with success. I actually think their formula with DMSO mixed in is much stronger than the traditional Androgel 1.62%. I liked it
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    Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    Yes, you can order from them w/o a script and the package arrives from an art supply store in Oregon Shipping is incredibly quick and the product is very high quality. It's exactly $50/bottle including shipping and I've used 2 bottles with success. I actually think their formula with DMSO mixed in is much stronger than the traditional Androgel 1.62%. I liked it
    Damn thats crazy. I bet they will go the way of the good RC sites though eventually....you can only get away with these type things for so long anymore (ever since 2004-ish). Now testosterone and clomid are looked at like crack or something by the feds. I wanted to go to an anti-aging clinic or an endo and ask to switch over to testosterone injections.....but paying for it myself while keeping my script for the androgel from my GP (insurance pays for the gel, which is super expensive and I pay for the vial of test which should be relatively cheap). Best of both worlds, I did not know that guys could get androgel (generic) w/o a script to use as an adjunct to testosterone injections....if I were on injections I'd jump on this place and order as much as I could before they disappear
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    Has anyone else been stiffed by thefolks at phlojelultra.us ? I have been waiting for two weeks, the customer service phone number has been disconnected and the email address is inactive. Has anyone had any luck receiving Phlojel lately?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jflo DE View Post
    Has anyone else been stiffed by thefolks at phlojelultra.us ? I have been waiting for two weeks, the customer service phone number has been disconnected and the email address is inactive. Has anyone had any luck receiving Phlojel lately?
    Are you serious with this? I was just about to place my second order the Phlojel ultra 500gram bottle. Did the money ever come out of your bank account? Anyone know of any other supplies for this stuff?
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    Relax guys, the Canadian distributor is shipping out the orders that the US distributor has been sitting on. I got mine last friday after a 2 month wait (or around that much time). He has been updating us via email, not sure why you didn't get these emails? I would advise ordering from Canada for now though....since the US shipment is sitting in customs.
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    Thanks on the update Anabolic. I think I actually ordered from the Canada distributor the first time I ordered it and had no problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELROCK View Post
    Thanks on the update Anabolic. I think I actually ordered from the Canada distributor the first time I ordered it and had no problem.
    Yeah order from Canada ....I have always ordered from the US distributor, just made sense to me. But now with what I know about the US shipment sitting in customs....better to order straight from Canada. I made note of this on another thread, maybe it was in anabolics? Not sure. But if anybody doesn't get their US placed order soon...I'd suggest emailing the Canadian outfit and they should take care of you. From what I have heard they are shipping out all the US orders w/o the need to notify them.....but Vida emailed them himself, and he sent me the email if any of you guys need to email them.
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    The US distributor promised me a free 100g jar for my troubles....the canadian guys never sent me that part of course.
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    I hope you are right. I am just disappointed that they took my money and I can't get anyone to return a phone call or email. That goes for JAR's Canadian phone support as well. I have left them at least three voicemails and never heard a single word from them. I will take your word though and give it a little while longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jflo DE View Post
    I hope you are right. I am just disappointed that they took my money and I can't get anyone to return a phone call or email. That goes for JAR's Canadian phone support as well. I have left them at least three voicemails and never heard a single word from them. I will take your word though and give it a little while longer.
    Yeah the guy Travis (the US distributor) has been steady emailing me and the others apprising us of the situation week to week.....maybe the email you used was incorrect? And therefore you did not get these emails? He doesn't respond to questions, at least not to mine, but he is pretty good about emailing us on the status of the orders, and what he is doing to remedy it. They said they were beginning to mail out last week, so I'd give it this week at least. I'll go look for that email that Vida used to get a response from the Canadian guys.....
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    This is the email Vida had success with:

    tech@jarpharma.com
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    I don't know AnabolicHolic, I tried the email address that you provided, and have kept trying to reach someone at the JAR customer service phone number, and have gotten absolutely 0 RESPONSE from anyone at the US or Canadian locations. I would certainly not fork over a single penny to these people until they at least put a statement on their website. I have been waiting three weeks, and I see some people posting on JAR's facebook page that have been waiting for months. It really bothers me that they cant take 20 seconds to respond when they took my money knowing they didn't have the product to fill the order. I would definitely avoid ordering from these people until they get their act together!
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    I ordered (2) bottles from Androrxshop last month and I did notice it was a different formula with the DMSO. It is a bit more gel-like that the Androgel and it stays on top of the skin a bit longer. So far it has seemed like a great product!
    I just finished my 6th week on generic androgel@3.24% (one pump/day). My testosterone dropped from 262 to 183. I'm also using 50 mg of Formestane and my E2 went from 37 to 6.76. I think that androgel has driven my natural test to nothing and all that is left is whatever androgel provides. I think I'll increase my dosage to three pumps/day or go to shots. I have an appointment with my doc to discuss options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jflo DE View Post
    I don't know AnabolicHolic, I tried the email address that you provided, and have kept trying to reach someone at the JAR customer service phone number, and have gotten absolutely 0 RESPONSE from anyone at the US or Canadian locations. I would certainly not fork over a single penny to these people until they at least put a statement on their website. I have been waiting three weeks, and I see some people posting on JAR's facebook page that have been waiting for months. It really bothers me that they cant take 20 seconds to respond when they took my money knowing they didn't have the product to fill the order. I would definitely avoid ordering from these people until they get their act together!
    This is the latest email I've gotten from the US distributor, it has the attachment for the fedex letter PDF etc with it if you want to see it. I'll forward to you if you give me an email address.

    All,
    I wanted to send proof of what has been our issue for the last month and a half. I have told all of you that the FDA has been our problem. They had decided to target my last shipment for "random" inspection and it has been a pain dealing with them. They finally have been satisfied and have released my last shipment. FedEx attempted to deliver it today without notice and none was here to receive it, so it will be delivered tomorrow. Most of you should have received your order from my manufacturer in Canada by now. I have attached the documentation from the FDA and the FedEx delivery sticker showing today's date. Several customers have filed claims with PayPal because they did not believe what I was telling them about the latest shipment. This is why I wanted to provide everyone with proof that my company does everything it can to provide loyal customers with the confidence they look for. If you have not received your order yet, please let me know. Since we now know the BS that the FDA wants, our shipments should not ever be held up again. We will add the labels they are looking for.

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    Not sure why you are not A) in the email loop or B) haven't received yet. That is odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    I just finished my 6th week on generic androgel@3.24% (one pump/day). My testosterone dropped from 262 to 183. I'm also using 50 mg of Formestane and my E2 went from 37 to 6.76. I think that androgel has driven my natural test to nothing and all that is left is whatever androgel provides. I think I'll increase my dosage to three pumps/day or go to shots. I have an appointment with my doc to discuss options.
    This happens at 1-2 pumps, even 3....you either drop your overall test levels, or you get back to square one....you need more pumps (double or triple, probably triple looking at the #'s) in order to get to 6-700's or something respectable. This is why everybody bitches about androgel....they use a couple pumps, say it doesn't work, then go ask for injections....OK thats fine, but don't say "it doesn't work" when you didn't even give it a proper chance at appropriate dosages....not busting your balls, just saying in general this happens all the time.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post

    This happens at 1-2 pumps, even 3....you either drop your overall test levels, or you get back to square one....you need more pumps (double or triple, probably triple looking at the #'s) in order to get to 6-700's or something respectable. This is why everybody bitches about androgel....they use a couple pumps, say it doesn't work, then go ask for injections....OK thats fine, but don't say "it doesn't work" when you didn't even give it a proper chance at appropriate dosages....not busting your balls, just saying in general this happens all the time.....
    I agree with this 100% well put AnabolicHolic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELROCK View Post
    I agree with this 100% well put AnabolicHolic.
    I think we are brothers or something lol.....sometimes I get pissed off when people want to bash certain things seemingly just for the sake of bashing it. When things get out of hand, and the basis of the argument is too illogical, I have to type up some paragraphs
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    This happens at 1-2 pumps, even 3....you either drop your overall test levels, or you get back to square one....you need more pumps (double or triple, probably triple looking at the #'s) in order to get to 6-700's or something respectable. This is why everybody bitches about androgel....they use a couple pumps, say it doesn't work, then go ask for injections....OK thats fine, but don't say "it doesn't work" when you didn't even give it a proper chance at appropriate dosages....not busting your balls, just saying in general this happens all the time.....
    I'm not saying it doesn't work but I'm looking at something like eight pumps for a respectable number. That makes Androgel very expensive especially if you don't have perscription inusurance. Although I hate the thought of shots, it may be cheaper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    This is the latest email I've gotten from the US distributor, it has the attachment for the fedex letter PDF etc with it if you want to see it. I'll forward to you if you give me an email address.

    All,
    I wanted to send proof of what has been our issue for the last month and a half. I have told all of you that the FDA has been our problem. They had decided to target my last shipment for "random" inspection and it has been a pain dealing with them. They finally have been satisfied and have released my last shipment. FedEx attempted to deliver it today without notice and none was here to receive it, so it will be delivered tomorrow. Most of you should have received your order from my manufacturer in Canada by now. I have attached the documentation from the FDA and the FedEx delivery sticker showing today's date. Several customers have filed claims with PayPal because they did not believe what I was telling them about the latest shipment. This is why I wanted to provide everyone with proof that my company does everything it can to provide loyal customers with the confidence they look for. If you have not received your order yet, please let me know. Since we now know the BS that the FDA wants, our shipments should not ever be held up again. We will add the labels they are looking for.

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    Not sure why you are not A) in the email loop or B) haven't received yet. That is odd.
    FWIW - I ordered Phlojel last week and just received my shipping confirmation and tracking number.

    YMMV
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post
    FWIW - I ordered Phlojel last week and just received my shipping confirmation and tracking number.

    YMMV
    Did you order from the JAR website or from the US distributor? I still have not received anything from my order on August 12th.
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