Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback
- 07-02-2013, 02:22 PM
Axiron Gel was not my first choice for my TRT treatment but my insurance would not cover Androgel and Axiron had a company promo for only $25 bucks a month. And unfortunately, my doc wont go for the shots.
And yes I am willing to put another compound onto my armpits after I apply my Axiron gel. If it has the potential to bring my numbers from 400 to 800 then yes that would be worth it to me. I figure It's worth a shot at least.
- 07-02-2013, 02:58 PM
Try to put the Axiron on diff. areas of your body, shoulders, bottom of forearms are good places.
Also search for alternatives because the $25 promo will run out and then what?
I was on axiron for over a year, two hours after applying was as high as 1200, 1000, and 800. But you get a severe drop after that, too big of a drop, sometimes, 500, 300, or below 200. It does not seem to get you at a stable level. Which I realize is a daily application but what a daily rollercoaster.
- 07-02-2013, 10:50 PM
P.S.: twice a day application with topical test gels, try it some time......voila! no rollercoaster. Although I don't believe you about these 400-800 point dips in less than 24 hours...I think once a day application is adequate, but not optimal by any means (reason for my twice a day application).
07-02-2013, 11:13 PM
07-02-2013, 11:32 PM
07-02-2013, 11:42 PM
Calm down dude lay off the caffeine. Geeez, no need to comment back I'm done with you.
07-02-2013, 11:54 PM
07-04-2013, 02:34 AM
Here are my actual lab results from applying the 4 pumps of Androgel 1.62% along with Phlojel Ultra. How do they look? What are the risks of maintaining a total testosterone leveof 1205 long-term, besides possible elevated PSA values?
Testosterone Total: 1205 ng/dl, reference interval: 241-827
SHBG: 34 NMOL/L, reference interval: 13-71
Testosterone Free (calc): 294 pg/ml, reference interval: 35-180
Testosterone Free % 2.5%: reference interval: 1.0-.27
07-04-2013, 02:35 AM
Correction....Testosterone free reference interval is 1.0-2.7
07-04-2013, 09:40 PM
Provided you feel good at that level, which is what really matters, and you monitor estrogen, PSA, any cardiovascular concerns etc....and they are not out of whack, I don't see a problem with it. Although being over 1000 chronically is asking for trouble eventually if you ask me.....some of these things are bound to get out of whack and you'll be chasing after them with AI's and prostate supps or BP meds etc. You'll end up pissed off and decide to lower to a more manageable level like 700-800-900 or whatever.
07-04-2013, 11:30 PM
Thanks, that's great advice. I actually do feel pretty stellar now with my total test at 1205. Any opinions from you (or anyone) on my free test values?
I've basically tripled my total test within about 2 months and the most significant side effect is fat loss I've dropped about 8lbs and kept my muscle mass for the most part, and I haven't been changing too much with my diet, which has been a partial intermittent fasting diet a few days a week. I've set a new PR on my decline bench at 415lbs and my strength is still on par or better than it was prior to HRT. My libido fluctuates alot though and has much larger spikes, my endurance is awesome both in/out of the gym, I'm sleeping less, and I definitely have an Alpha male complex, great self-esteem, and just a general better sense of well-being. In 2 months I'm getting another full blood profile to test for PSA and estrogen, though from my last test my SBHG value was pretty low which I believe indicates my estrogen is not spiking. I have not had any sore nips nor bloating similar to what I experienced on my past AndroBulk PH cycles, and I definitely fell a hell of alot healthier than taking those oral PH supplements. I'll probably keep everything in check and drop reduce my Androgel a bit this fall to cycle down to the 700/800s.
I hope this thread we've been documenting with our results helps other folks over 35 in their quest to improve their T levels, safely and responsibly.
07-05-2013, 07:44 AM
Thats great results man good on you!! In 23 and just started Testogel! Im gonna starting using phlojel ultra just by seeing ylur results!! Id love to be at those levels as im only about 250, all the best to you and great news!!!
07-05-2013, 10:16 PM
But yeah....test really rips the fat off of me like crazy. I'd say I get 80% or more fat loss and 20% or less added muscle mass while on test.....its always burned fat for me never did all that much for me in regards to muscle mass, even when I cycled it when I was younger. But that is fine, there are other things I can take for muscle mass....so long as the test keeps my fat in check, its all good.
07-06-2013, 03:02 AM
Yeah, definitely this Androgel is nuking my past stubborn fat that never went away previously! What's crazy is I've even dialed back my cardio to only 5 min for warm up every day and no other steady-state or interval training, and I'm losing fat like freakin' crazy. On the 4th of July I weighed myself and I finally broke the 200 barrier down to 199lbs, and I haven't done that in years and that as on a serious low carb/high protein diet. My general 1.5hr resistance training 5 days/week has been extremely effective with no additional cardio, which I like to maintain my muscle mass. I eat away muscle to quickly with cardio and consider myself more of a hard muscle gainer. BTW...how did you determine that your test levels were dropping where you had to apply more Andrgel in the afternoon/evening? Is that still the case if you apply Phlogel to your morning application? That reminds me, I need to order a 500g tub of that Phlogel to stock up! Maybe later this year I research how to acquire the raw ingredients and make it myself.
07-06-2013, 02:26 PM
07-07-2013, 04:00 AM
Cool! If you could PM me some of that info to create the kits or raw materials, I'd appreciate it!
07-09-2013, 06:11 AM
If you have the info for me to could you please PM me as im using testogel!
07-09-2013, 06:26 PM
The testosterone gel 1.62% I order from Androrxshop contains around 10% DMSO for transdermal. I've noticed a much better absorption than my prescribed Androgel. Sometimes the site goes down as its hosted by some malaysian host, but they always return my emails, and always get my product. Anyways, good luck with the experimentations guys. I'm interested to hear how things go.
07-10-2013, 11:28 AM
I ordered (2) bottles from Androrxshop last month and I did notice it was a different formula with the DMSO. It is a bit more gel-like that the Androgel and it stays on top of the skin a bit longer. So far it has seemed like a great product!
07-10-2013, 01:47 PM
07-13-2013, 01:12 AM
Yes, you can order from them w/o a script and the package arrives from an art supply store in Oregon Shipping is incredibly quick and the product is very high quality. It's exactly $50/bottle including shipping and I've used 2 bottles with success. I actually think their formula with DMSO mixed in is much stronger than the traditional Androgel 1.62%. I liked it
07-13-2013, 01:44 AM
08-22-2013, 09:37 PM
Has anyone else been stiffed by thefolks at phlojelultra.us ? I have been waiting for two weeks, the customer service phone number has been disconnected and the email address is inactive. Has anyone had any luck receiving Phlojel lately?
08-22-2013, 10:02 PM
08-22-2013, 10:13 PM
Relax guys, the Canadian distributor is shipping out the orders that the US distributor has been sitting on. I got mine last friday after a 2 month wait (or around that much time). He has been updating us via email, not sure why you didn't get these emails? I would advise ordering from Canada for now though....since the US shipment is sitting in customs.
08-22-2013, 10:17 PM
Thanks on the update Anabolic. I think I actually ordered from the Canada distributor the first time I ordered it and had no problem.
08-22-2013, 10:23 PM
08-22-2013, 10:25 PM
The US distributor promised me a free 100g jar for my troubles....the canadian guys never sent me that part of course.
08-22-2013, 10:31 PM
I hope you are right. I am just disappointed that they took my money and I can't get anyone to return a phone call or email. That goes for JAR's Canadian phone support as well. I have left them at least three voicemails and never heard a single word from them. I will take your word though and give it a little while longer.
08-22-2013, 10:39 PM
08-22-2013, 10:41 PM
08-27-2013, 01:51 PM
I don't know AnabolicHolic, I tried the email address that you provided, and have kept trying to reach someone at the JAR customer service phone number, and have gotten absolutely 0 RESPONSE from anyone at the US or Canadian locations. I would certainly not fork over a single penny to these people until they at least put a statement on their website. I have been waiting three weeks, and I see some people posting on JAR's facebook page that have been waiting for months. It really bothers me that they cant take 20 seconds to respond when they took my money knowing they didn't have the product to fill the order. I would definitely avoid ordering from these people until they get their act together!
08-27-2013, 02:18 PM
08-27-2013, 04:14 PM
I wanted to send proof of what has been our issue for the last month and a half. I have told all of you that the FDA has been our problem. They had decided to target my last shipment for "random" inspection and it has been a pain dealing with them. They finally have been satisfied and have released my last shipment. FedEx attempted to deliver it today without notice and none was here to receive it, so it will be delivered tomorrow. Most of you should have received your order from my manufacturer in Canada by now. I have attached the documentation from the FDA and the FedEx delivery sticker showing today's date. Several customers have filed claims with PayPal because they did not believe what I was telling them about the latest shipment. This is why I wanted to provide everyone with proof that my company does everything it can to provide loyal customers with the confidence they look for. If you have not received your order yet, please let me know. Since we now know the BS that the FDA wants, our shipments should not ever be held up again. We will add the labels they are looking for.
Not sure why you are not A) in the email loop or B) haven't received yet. That is odd.
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