Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

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  1. Iv been seeing a Endocrinologist


  2. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Ah, I've changed brands again because I lowered my dose. If you like the higher dose, Superior Source is great. I found that they worked too well and I needed to lower my dose and stop my zits from coming in like a 16 year old. I couldn't break the tiny pills into 1/2 or 1/4 doses or I would have stuck with it. Now I am taking: Source naturals pregnenolone 10mg Douglas Labs DHEA 5mg Both are sublingual.
    What are you daily dosing now ?

    Cheers
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post
    Initially, I was suing a 30mg pregnenolone capsule (I do not recall the brand) and a home-brewed DHEA transdermal (37.5 mg/ml). After reading kisaj's results, I changed to the brand I understand he was using, Superior Source. I bought them at Votacost.
    What dose did you settle in at ?

    I'm on 120 mg test cyp a week split into two shots and doing 150mg formestane a day to keep estrogen in check


    Cheers

  4. Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    I don't know if anyone is following this thread anymore but if so I have some new lab information base on 1ml per AndroForte + 1ml per of progesterone + 100 mg Formestane twice per day for about six weeks. T = 1336 E2 = 10.4 PSA = 2.15 Doc says my T is way to high. He wants it in the 600 range. I'm going to start low dose Cilas to help with BPH.
    I'm still following bro!

  5. I've used progesterone off and on for years. If you read what Dr Lee and Ray Peat have to say about men using progesterone daily you will start using it as well. All pros no cons.

  6. Lol, that is a bold statement. Actually preg is recommended before prog in most protocols. Anyway, I was wondering why you take it other than that Dr Lee and Ray Peat say it is good.

    BBB- read up on Ray Peat's comments and opinion on preg. If you follow him, you will find it interesting as he is one of the biggest proponents of it.

  7. Both Ray Peat and Dr Lee are it's strongest proponents but there are many studies done ( mostly in other countries) that extol it's benefits even over pregnenalone.

  8. I also low dose preg. I love the way I feel went using it.

  9. Are you intentionally not answering my question? You are the only person I have met that takes this so I am asking what your benefits are and why you go this route as opposed to the common one.

  10. I'm new to the TRT's and other stuff ! What is Preg?
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  11. Pregnenolone

  12. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Are you intentionally not answering my question? You are the only person I have met that takes this so I am asking what your benefits are and why you go this route as opposed to the common one.
    This. What benefits do u see

  13. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Are you intentionally not answering my question? You are the only person I have met that takes this so I am asking what your benefits are and why you go this route as opposed to the common one.
    I have only been on progesterone combined with TRT for about month. It typically takes about three months to fully kick in. But thus far much better sleep. I sleep sounder and deeper than normal. I have more energy throughout the day and I'm only getting up to go to the bathroom once or twice a night as compared to two to three times without progesterone.

  14. Ok, thanks.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    I have only been on progesterone combined with TRT for about month. It typically takes about three months to fully kick in. But thus far much better sleep. I sleep sounder and deeper than normal. I have more energy throughout the day and I'm only getting up to go to the bathroom once or twice a night as compared to two to three times without progesterone.
    If I Understand it correctly Pregnenolone coverts to progesterone in the body . So does it matter which one you take ? progesterone seems much easier to find and at most vitamin shops

    Are you taking progesterone and if so from where all I can find is cream for that but many options for Pregnenolone

  16. It does matter because of the pathway. Pregnenolone goes two different paths. One that turns into DHEA and the other direction is Progesterone. The one thing I do not like about Prog when I have studied it and my doc agrees, is that it is one of the most powerful 5-alpha reductase inhibitors and significantly decreases DHT. Ask anybody that has reduced DHT and see how they feel. That is the hormone that makes us feel like men and keeps libido high. Preg converts to prog, but the effect isn't the same as taking it directly.

    If a doctor says it would be a good addition, then that is a route to look into. My doc told me to take preg and DHEA to get my levels in the high range and it changed everything for the better.

  17. As I understand it pregnenalone can covert to other things besides progesterone. This is not a bad thing but you need enough progesterone to combat BPH and the many other things that progesterone helps with. Pregnenalone is upstream and you may not get enough conversion to progesterone to do its job properly.

  18. That is the concern. It lowers DHT and if you read up on it, can and does affect libido in men. I'd only supplement with it if you have a history of prostate cancer or an actual need to go that route. We need DHT.

  19. The studies I have read all strongly indicate that DHT

  20. [QUOTE="BBB;4440137"]The studies I have read all strongly implicate DHT as a key player in the development of prostate issues. E2must also be present. Progesterone protects against both.

  21. I am no expert, but I believe elevated DHT is of concern primarily when PSA is high.

  22. Keep in mind that pregnenalone can covert to DHEA, estrogens,testosterone as well as other hormones. It's just too far upstream to control.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post
    I am no expert, but I believe elevated DHT is of concern primarily when PSA is high.
    DHT is a concern at all levels of PSA according to the latest research although it is typically only a problem in the presence of E2 but we all have and need a little E2.

  24. Progesterone cream - 1 mL (before bed) -
    Helps use fat for energy, making it easier to lose weight
    Increases muscle mass
    Protects against prostate and breast cancer
    Increases sexual drive
    Corrects erectile dysfunction in much the way Viagra does, by increasing production of nitric oxide
    Helps normalize blood sugar levels
    Normalizes thyroid hormone function
    Stimulates new bone formation
    Improves brain function, has antidepressant properties
    Improves skin problems including acne, seborrhea, rosacea, psoriasis
    Diminishes muscular aches and pains, has anti-inflammatory properties
    Improves sleep pattern
    Lowers DHT
    Estrogen antagonist
    Anti-inflammatory
    Maintains stem cell activity
    Relaxes smooth muscles

    These are just a few of the things that daily progesterone can help

  25. Cool, BBB. I respect and appreciate the follow up.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    DHT is a concern at all levels of PSA according to the latest research although it is typically only a problem in the presence of E2 but we all have and need a little E2.
    Thank you.

  27. I will say that preg and dhea have provided all those benefits for me. I wish everyone could experience it or know about it. Especially those on trt.

  28. I can't say that I've noticed any change in libido. Probably because I'm using in concert with TRT. Lowering estrogen too much definately affects my libido.

  29. So with the Pregnenolone, is it dermal or pill form?

  30. You can get either. I take and like sublingual.
  

  
 

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