Blasting while on TRT

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    I view Erase as having a can of water for a campout or a TRT type dose. A cycle is like a house on fire and you are throwing a can of water on it. You need a big tanker of water like Arimadex to put it out. Use the appropriate extinguisher for the situation.
    I'll know better next time. I thought that since I wasn't experiencing any negative sides, then e2 shouldn't be too high.. Man was I wrong! I'm already feeling sore and crackly in my joints from that 1mg A-dex capsule lol


  2. Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    Honestly, is an 11:1 ratio of T to E that bad? I've never had high E or experienced the sides. I'm asking for knowledge, not to be a smart ass.
    This is actually a very valid question, IMO. When they are using a range of 8-50, just as an example as each lab is different, they are also generally using a testosterone range of 250-850 (again, just an example). So, if you are blasting into the 1500+ range, I would fully expect that your e2 levels are going to increase accordingly. If you are walking around with 1500-2000 levels of testosterone, I don't see how you wouldn't expect to be seeing e2 levels in the 100 range.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post

    This is actually a very valid question, IMO. When they are using a range of 8-50, just as an example as each lab is different, they are also generally using a testosterone range of 250-850 (again, just an example). So, if you are blasting into the 1500+ range, I would fully expect that your e2 levels are going to increase accordingly. If you are walking around with 1500-2000 levels of testosterone, I don't see how you wouldn't expect to be seeing e2 levels in the 100 range.
    Even if your e2 levels are in the 100 range, if you aren't experiencing any adverse/ill/negative effects, why try to counter a number/figure if its not making you feel bad?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    Even if your e2 levels are in the 100 range, if you aren't experiencing any adverse/ill/negative effects, why try to counter a number/figure if its not making you feel bad?
    estrogen seems like it is actually quite conducive to muscle growth in the company of high test levels, since it seems when you crush your estrogen levels (with AI's or whatever) muscle growth is diminished as well as libido.....this is provided there are no adverse effects as you stated of course. I get gyno just by looking at estrogen results that high God bless the people it does not affect whatsoever....

  5. Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    Even if your e2 levels are in the 100 range, if you aren't experiencing any adverse/ill/negative effects, why try to counter a number/figure if its not making you feel bad?
    I am agreeing with you. I hear more issues with guys trying to mess with their e2 levels than anything else and it is usually from crushing it. If someone isn't suffering from any gyno issues and aren't trying to kill someone, I wouldn't mess with it. Chasing numbers will drive you crazy.
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  6. Elevated levels of estrogen arre linked to prostate cancer. More and more research is coking out to support estrogen (not DHT) being the insulting agent.

    With 1 out of every 3 men getting prostate cancer, be sure to add this to your decision making process related to A-I's and androgen use
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Elevated levels of estrogen arre linked to prostate cancer. More and more research is coking out to support estrogen (not DHT) being the insulting agent.

    With 1 out of every 3 men getting prostate cancer, be sure to add this to your decision making process related to A-I's and androgen use
    Yeah I forgot about this tidbit. I suppose due to my age and long tenure in this game, its pretty much ingrained in my brain that DHT is the culprit. Just can't force myself to believe its estrogen, and it most likely is. I believe prostate cancer has a great deal to do with genetics though to be honest....more than the experts propose too. But I use estrogen control anyways, since I am prone to those sides regardless of androgen usage.

  8. My test results after week 5 of 500mg test-enanthate/week

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  9. I don't know man, those look like great numbers to me- especially on a 500mg week cycle.

  10. yeah looks pretty normal and standard issue for what you are doing.

  11. Lex: Keep an eye on your HCT (hematocrit) - Elevations are a common problem with AS use and/or TRT.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post

    Even if your e2 levels are in the 100 range, if you aren't experiencing any adverse/ill/negative effects, why try to counter a number/figure if its not making you feel bad?
    Much more to it than how you feel or look.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Elevated levels of estrogen arre linked to prostate cancer. More and more research is coking out to support estrogen (not DHT) being the insulting agent.

    With 1 out of every 3 men getting prostate cancer, be sure to add this to your decision making process related to A-I's and androgen use
    Thanks Whacked I was just gettting ready to say the same thing.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post

    Much more to it than how you feel or look.
    Maybe...I guess you can't "feel" high cholesterol or some tumors so I do kind of agree

  14. I'm ending my 12 week blast early, only 8 weeks. Next week I won't inject at all, and the following week I'll start back on my regular trt dose of 100mg/week.

    I gained 20lbs without being too religious about the amount of calories/protein I got, I lifted hard and heavy, but not as hard and heavy as I could have. No bloating, no side effects (other than a little irritability toward the end).

    I'm pretty happy with the results, being that it's my first blast. I'll probably do 1-2 blasts a year, a 6-8 week blast is perfect for me.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    I'm ending my 12 week blast early, only 8 weeks. Next week I won't inject at all, and the following week I'll start back on my regular trt dose of 100mg/week.

    I gained 20lbs without being too religious about the amount of calories/protein I got, I lifted hard and heavy, but not as hard and heavy as I could have. No bloating, no side effects (other than a little irritability toward the end).

    I'm pretty happy with the results, being that it's my first blast. I'll probably do 1-2 blasts a year, a 6-8 week blast is perfect for me.
    I always leave my end dates open ended. Sometimes it's just time to end, to feel normal again. I know the feeling. No shame in your cycle!!

  16. Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    I'm ending my 12 week blast early, only 8 weeks. Next week I won't inject at all, and the following week I'll start back on my regular trt dose of 100mg/week.

    I gained 20lbs without being too religious about the amount of calories/protein I got, I lifted hard and heavy, but not as hard and heavy as I could have. No bloating, no side effects (other than a little irritability toward the end).

    I'm pretty happy with the results, being that it's my first blast. I'll probably do 1-2 blasts a year, a 6-8 week blast is perfect for me.
    Damn man. I would never think about running a blast.......until I just read this. lol. uh oh

  17. Update:

    Blast is finished. Ended it at 10 weeks. Ended at 193.5, but @ 191 after one week off cycle. That's up 12 pounds from the cycle low of 179. I've lost noticeable mid section fat, and muscles are much harder/ denser feeling.

    It's odd that I originally dropped like 9 lbs in the beginning, but I do think it was all unwanted weight.

    Everyone at the gym; as well as some family; are asking me what I've been doing differently and telling me I look much bigger, so there is change. I think it's just hard to notice on ourselves.

    Already trying to decide what I want to so next (if anything)...up it from 400mg to 500mg or try some mild prohormone of some kind.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    Update:

    Blast is finished. Ended it at 10 weeks. Ended at 193.5, but @ 191 after one week off cycle. That's up 12 pounds from the cycle low of 179. I've lost noticeable mid section fat, and muscles are much harder/ denser feeling.

    It's odd that I originally dropped like 9 lbs in the beginning, but I do think it was all unwanted weight.

    Everyone at the gym; as well as some family; are asking me what I've been doing differently and telling me I look much bigger, so there is change. I think it's just hard to notice on ourselves.

    Already trying to decide what I want to so next (if anything)...up it from 400mg to 500mg or try some mild prohormone of some kind.
    Sounds to me like it worked and results speak for themselves. Beware prohormones' methylation and their taxing effects on the liver, lipid values, and blood pressure, to name a few.

  19. If I don't inject next week, and resume normal trt dosage the following week, how long should I wait until I go for my blood checkup at my endo? 6 weeks?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    If I don't inject next week, and resume normal trt dosage the following week, how long should I wait until I go for my blood checkup at my endo? 6 weeks?
    It's really kind of an estimated guess. I'd spend the $30 or whatever and get private labs done. You will get the results in 1-2 days. That way you guarantee you won't jeoperdize your TRT rx

    but I would THINK you'd be safe at 6 weeks trt dosage

  21. hey guys so ivebeen following this thrad like crazy and it was got me to try a blast....normally do 100mg one time a week test cyp.

    I am thinking about doing 200mg 2x per week with one erase pro every day for estrogen purposes, how does this sound? Pin on tuesday and Saturday

  22. Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    hey guys so ivebeen following this thrad like crazy and it was got me to try a blast....normally do 100mg one time a week test cyp.

    I am thinking about doing 200mg 2x per week with one erase pro every day for estrogen purposes, how does this sound? Pin on tuesday and Saturday
    Sounds great but I'd get a proper AI. I use exemestane. But if it's pro, you might be ok . I've used regular and pro and there's a noticeable difference with pro. Can't hurt to keep Exemestane on hand just in case.

  23. I feel f-ing outstanding now that the blast is over! Big difference emotionally and sexually, life is awesome again haha

  24. Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    Sounds great but I'd get a proper AI. I use exemestane. But if it's pro, you might be ok . I've used regular and pro and there's a noticeable difference with pro. Can't hurt to keep Exemestane on hand just in case.
    might be a dumb question but where would I get the exemestane and how much ? Also do you think 1 erase pro per day would be enough? OR what about 200mg on tuesday and 100 on sat for only 300 a week? I wanna do as much as i can without sides lol........................... .how much would u increase cals, lets say u were already bulking before blasting how much would you increase calories and is there a preferred source (pro carbs fats)? Thanks alot!!!

  25. Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    I feel f-ing outstanding now that the blast is over! Big difference emotionally and sexually, life is awesome again haha
    Did you lose libido and erection integrity when blasting? I know I did and also blasting @ 500 felt better that @750. Good to be back, ain't it?
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