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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post

    So now you wait....
    How many days ago was your last inject? And how many mg's?
    Last inject was on Wednesday and it was about 50mgs.
    My appointment is for this Friday. I was going to inject again tomorrow, but think I may skip that and then just get the labs drawn on Wednesday and inject that night.

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    They should have a "thing" where you can check your test levels immediately on demand, like pricking and testing your blood sugar. I see this coming in the future. Maybe I should invent it and make billions on it? This is REALLY stupid having to go to a fcking lab every 5 minutes, then waiting days to find out what your stinking test level is.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    I always look forward to injects
    Me too. It probably sounds weird to guys fearful of injects or don't know what we experience, but about a day or so before, I just think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Me too. It probably sounds weird to guys fearful of injects or don't know what we experience, but about a day or so before, I just think about it.
    I think about it too....I think "why the fck do I have to do this???"....there are a lot of bad outcomes that can come out of sticking a needle into your body EW. Sure, most of us are safe and sterile about it....but its still not something that people should "like". Not sure why anybody would enjoy sticking a sharp object into themselves? then again there are people into BDSM and whips and chains ......
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    So what is the option- cry about it and whoa is me every week? Deal with the situation at hand and enjoy the fact that you can feel better than almost any other man in his 35+ age. So, yeah, I actually "like" what it does for me and look forward to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    So what is the option- cry about it and whoa is me every week? Deal with the situation at hand and enjoy the fact that you can feel better than almost any other man in his 35+ age. So, yeah, I actually "like" what it does for me and look forward to it.
    there is a difference between looking forward to something and understanding its just part of the overall process (the whole sticking the needle in thing) . Liking trt and its results, and liking sticking needles into yourself, are two different things is my point....if you look forward to applying or injecting test, yes who wouldn't? If you look forward to, and like, sticking a needle into yourself? That is just not something I would think a normal person would look forward too. There are those who put on this big sense of bravado that they like sticking needles into themselves, which to me is nonsense.
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    I guess I have no idea what you are saying. It is pretty clear that we are talking about TRT and the the outcome from being on it. Nobody here has said that they are looking forward to sticking a needle in themselves just because they like needles. If you are taking this somewhere else and talking about people that like pain or whatever, then this probably isn't the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    I was speaking more along the lines of cottage cheese and greek yogurt
    I still dont really count those ...def milk like you said.
    If you are on a strict no carb then it prob matter a bit but for low carbing I really dont see much fluctuation, I have checked my blood glucose and is has minimum impact from my tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    I guess I have no idea what you are saying. It is pretty clear that we are talking about TRT and the the outcome from being on it. Nobody here has said that they are looking forward to sticking a needle in themselves just because they like needles. If you are taking this somewhere else and talking about people that like pain or whatever, then this probably isn't the thread.
    well when you say you are "looking forward to an injection" .......yep.....people might think you like the actual injection Depends how you word it I suppose. I've found many of you old people are a pain in the ass what is going to happen in the 50's and 60's and 70's? lol
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    LOL, you're weird, man. I accept the blame on the misunderstanding here and promise to spell things out more clearly for the other zero people that don't understand what we are talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    LOL, you're weird, man. I accept the blame on the misunderstanding here and promise to spell things out more clearly for the other zero people that don't understand what we are talking about.
    hahaha, you're alright man.....you're just getting grumpy with old age is all. I'm 2 years older and I'm Waaaaaay less grumpy
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post

    I think about it too....I think "why the fck do I have to do this???"....there are a lot of bad outcomes that can come out of sticking a needle into your body EW. Sure, most of us are safe and sterile about it....but its still not something that people should "like". Not sure why anybody would enjoy sticking a sharp object into themselves? then again there are people into BDSM and whips and chains ......
    Man, this is a whole new direction. But since you brought it up, sometimes I bash my head into a window just to see if I can break through it. What are you even talking about man?
    This isn't some freak show or something. I said I look forward to injects and didn't know you needed me to spell out why. The actual reason is because while it is a bit of a rush, I feel almost indescribably good when I take my Trt. I can feel when my testosterone level dips down (tired, lethargic etc) and feel outstanding when it's back up. Also, since I'm blasting now, I look forward to my gains and fat loss.
    So if you're still thinking whips and chains or whatever, that's just weird.
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    careful threeFs, you must explicitly state that you enjoy testosterone treatment and the benefits that it provides you so as to not be confused with actually enjoying sticking things in your body. The last thing you want is a reputation on an online forum as the weird guy that like sharp pointy things.

    haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    careful threeFs, you must explicitly state that you enjoy testosterone treatment and the benefits that it provides you so as to not be confused with actually enjoying sticking things in your body. The last thing you want is a reputation on an online forum as the weird guy that like sharp pointy things.

    haha
    yeah, caught me off guard, that one...
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    i forgot to read the by law where where you're required to be psychic ....you guys got me. Damn. And you're 100% correct...there are no bravado warriors who welcome the injection because they are tough guys and/or like the needles (please note sarcasm here). Please don't take yourselves so seriously fellas
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    i forgot to read the by law where where you're required to be psychic ....you guys got me. Damn. And you're 100% correct...there are no bravado warriors who welcome the injection because they are tough guys and/or like the needles (please note sarcasm here). Please don't take yourselves so seriously fellas
    Glad we're all on topic here
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    I'll probably inject 30ml tomorrow, test on Tuesday, the regular 50ml Thursday and get the endo test the following week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post

    Actually just saw them in my email and looked them over.

    Total T is 907
    E2 is 52.8

    ALT and AST are both in the 60s.
    BUN and Creatinine also slightly elevated.
    So this was three weeks after discontinuing 400 a week and going straight back to your trt dose of 100?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigt405 View Post

    So this was three weeks after discontinuing 400 a week and going straight back to your trt dose of 100?
    Correct, only I did 200 one week, then 100, then another at 100. Did not I icy today as was scheduled.
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    ***should say inject
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post

    Correct, only I did 200 one week, then 100, then another at 100. Did not I icy today as was scheduled.
    Cool.....thats what I am doing.....last week was 200, this week will be 100 and will continue at that till blood work last week of May. I am already missing the blast I felt great at 400 a week!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigt405 View Post
    Cool.....thats what I am doing.....last week was 200, this week will be 100 and will continue at that till blood work last week of May. I am already missing the blast I felt great at 400 a week!
    I know the feeling! Even 200/week feels better than my RX 120
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    What AI and dose are you guys running at 400/wk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckj1973 View Post
    What AI and dose are you guys running at 400/wk?
    I have used both 2.5 mg letro and 100 mg erase..and a few others but liked those two the best letro had me drier but normal joint pain so on perfect for contest prep. 75-100 mg erase had me in low normal range with zero sides that was on 600mg though for both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post
    I have used both 2.5 mg letro and 100 mg erase..and a few others but liked those two the best letro had me drier but normal joint pain so on perfect for contest prep. 75-100 mg erase had me in low normal range with zero sides that was on 600mg though for both.

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    So is joint pain the predominant indicator? I know sex drive as well, but do you shoot for like 1 dose lower than joint pain? Is that the idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    So is joint pain the predominant indicator? I know sex drive as well, but do you shoot for like 1 dose lower than joint pain? Is that the idea?
    For me no the goal is normal range unless I am doing a show luckily for me 2.5 mg letro only causes joint pain. I get private blood work test, estro is like 150 where I go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckj1973 View Post
    What AI and dose are you guys running at 400/wk?
    I used erase......
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigt405 View Post

    I used erase......
    Tried erase, but nips were itchy as hell at 6-8 weeks in. Ordered some liquid aromasin...all good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    Tried erase, but nips were itchy as hell at 6-8 weeks in. Ordered some liquid aromasin...all good.
    That's why I say blood work somethings seem to work well for some and not others.

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    im doin 12.5 g aromasin (about 1/8th teaspoon) EOD....think im ok, i almost wanna do it everyday to see if i experience joint pain cuz at least that way i know its working
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    I was going to try Aromasin, but the site I was going to order from said they were late on shipping due to a second bout of spinal meningitis! Yuck!
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    I've hit 25/ed for 4 days (aromasin) and though no joint pain, no morning wood today. So no aromasin today and maybe 12.5 ed starting tomorrow.
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    isnt 25 ed too much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vassille View Post
    isnt 25 ed too much?
    Yep. I wanted a blast at first. Now I'm going 12.5 ed or eod starting tomorrow or the next day.
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    If I ever blast again, it's gonna be for 4 weeks max. I saw the best results during that timeframe, and felt the best. After that it started going downhill. 500mg/week for 4 weeks, and then right back to 100mg/week trt should work fine, and get levels perfect again in time for endo testing. That's just what I prefer though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    If I ever blast again, it's gonna be for 4 weeks max. I saw the best results during that timeframe, and felt the best. After that it started going downhill. 500mg/week for 4 weeks, and then right back to 100mg/week trt should work fine, and get levels perfect again in time for endo testing. That's just what I prefer though.
    What were you at gains wise at 4 weeks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post

    What were you at gains wise at 4 weeks?
    I hit 20lbs in 4 weeks, and didn't really gain anything else when I hit the 8 week mark. I've lost a little over 5lbs, so I've gained around 10-15lbs muscle. 500mg/week 4 weeks, and then going right back to 100mg/week would work great. A fast increase to blast level and a slow decrease back to trt level. My e2 was 136 during the blast, and now it's 42. My libido is dead though. I can get an erection no problem, but I have absolutely no interest in sex. I've just gotta pretend that I do when I'm with my girl until things go back to normal. How long should it take?
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    Ugh, sux man. Been there many times. I'm still learning how my E2 changes things when it's high/low
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    im in week 3 of my blast and have only gained, maybe 5 lbs........ think it just needs longer to kick in? or should i jsut up calories more
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